Draft Declarations Thread
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It is hard to tell whether Oubre was better than Selden since it a a subjective opinion but Selden had the advantage of an extra year in the system. Oubre’s numbers might be somewhat skewed because he did not play as much at the start of the season and his playing time increased as the season moved on. Both were All Big 12 Honorable Mention; Perry was First team and Mason Second team All Conference.
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@JayHawkFanToo In that case it’s kind of more impressive, because Oubre couldn’t compile stats against weak teams. Like what Vick did this year.
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I was referring to playing time, his scoring increased in proportion to the increased playing time.
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Oubre came on strong late. Bill himself said he should’ve played him more early in the season. Lesson learned. Water under the bridge.
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PJ Washington of Kentucky, no Agent
Isiah Moss of Iowa, no Agent
Kris Wilkes of UCLA, no Agent
Konate of West Virginia, no Agent
Zhaire Smith of Texas Tech, no Agent
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PJ Washington of Kentucky, no Agent
Isiah Moss of Iowa, no Agent
Kris Wilkes of UCLA, no Agent
Konate of West Virginia, no Agent
Zhaire Smith of Texas Tech, no Agent
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Smith is a projected first rounder everywhere I look.
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Surprising to see Kevin Knox reports about him being torn on whether to declare. A lotto pick if he leaves…
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Cal must want him back then.
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BShark said:
Cal must want him back then.
He sold his soul and told him he should come back to both Kevin and his dad. Seems like they are buying into it
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Cal getting desperate lol.
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@Kcmatt7 Yeah, the 18 class is pretty bad. Looks like he really won’t take a big this class so it will be interesting to see who goes and stays.
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@BShark Well let’s hope SGA, Washington and Knox all go. Then Green transfers. That would leave them with a rough group lol.
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@Kcmatt7 Rough by UK standards I suppose. Still a lot of talent. Post situation won’t change a ton either way.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Cal getting desperate lol.
I think I’ve read Cal has never returned his leading scorer since coaching Kentucky. I don’t know what to believe but there are some UK people believing he’s coming back…
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BShark said:
Yeah you have to go when you are projected top 5. Then again Bridges stayed. Something in the water up there I guess.
Has a player ever really improved his stock by coming back that was projected lottery after their freshman year. I remember Smart coming back and he dropped a bit, Bridges didn’t really improve his stock, Robert Williams didn’t either…
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BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Cal getting desperate lol.
I think I’ve read Cal has never returned his leading scorer since coaching Kentucky. I don’t know what to believe but there are some UK people believing he’s coming back…
Drugged by Cal.
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Auburn’s Mustapha Heron signing with an Agent
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Oregon’s Troy Brown signing with an Agent. No surprise there
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I could actually see Knox moving up to be a top 5 pick in 2019 if he returns. If he can improve his ball handling so that he can be a primary scorer at the next level, he’s a top 5 pick, particularly since the 2018 HS group isn’t exactly overwhelming. If Knox can make himself into a star at the next level, he should return and do that. If he can’t, he should go and be a role player now.
SGA probably leaves. Washington probably returns. UK is probably stacked if that happens. If SGA stays, look out. They are right on the level with KU and Duke.
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The only declaration I have is I have no clue who the acronyms stand for if they aren’t a KU guy.
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@dylans The problem with America today is there is way too much acronymony, er, acrimony.
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@dylans Shai Gilgeous-Alexander is SGA. The only reason I abbreviate his is because it is a lot to write every time lol.
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Looks like Cal’s magic is wearing out. For all the talent UK has accumulated it has only 1 NC to show. The UK forums after the loss to KSU were harsh; fans are tired of the OAD that does not benefit the program but only a handful of players and Cal’s reputation.
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@JayHawkFanToo But when UK had a bunch of players drafted that was the best day in UK basketball history according to Cal.
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It was great day for Cal but not necessarily for UK and fans are starting to realize it is not working that great for them.
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I don’t have to self ban, as expected.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/apr/04/kansas-guard-malik-newman-enter-nba-draft/
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@BShark I like Malik, a lot! Gonna miss him. I hate this time of year.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark I like Malik, a lot! Gonna miss him. I hate this time of year.
I would have loved him back as much as anyone but this is the correct decision for him and was, like I said, the worst kept secret in Lawrence.
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@BShark so does this leave us over 1 on schollies or back to even? Room for Romeo yet ?
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@Blown Full up (13) on scholarships as of right now. Vick should leave though, thus room for Romeo. There is room for Romeo either way though.
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Newman is gone.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/apr/04/kansas-guard-malik-newman-enter-nba-draft/?mens_basketball
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Best of luck to Malik, I think he can be a serviceable back up in the NBA.
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BShark said:
Oubre and Diallo were just about Self’s biggest failures at KU imo. Oubre played about as many minutes as Jamari, while Oubre was no worse than the third best player on that team. Self should have unleashed Oubre from the start, instead he stifled him and it hurt his development.
Oubre with all of his talent was not playing good enough defense and Self sat his ass. It motivated him and it worked. Go look at the guys Cal at Kentucky doesnt get to quick enough in the short amount of he has. Self has run into that a couple of times too. Some kids take a bit longer to get it mentally. When they are considered one and done there is pressure, which Self will NEVER succumb to, to play them anyway.
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Duke’s Trevon Duval declares for NBA Draft @AdamZagoria
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Duke’s Trevon Duval declares for NBA Draft @AdamZagoria
No shocker there. He didn’t really want to play college ball anyway.
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@FarmerJayhawk Quite frankly I was surprised he did.
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Jayhawks’ Malik Newman could go in first round, NBA execs say
Ok…Vick? Cunliffe? Since Newman declared, that opens up pt for Romeo. Look for Romeo to commit once Vick jumps or Cunliffe transfers.
Come on Romeo, commit already. Self will work out the paper.
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BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Quite frankly I was surprised he did.
Really? He was always a guy who was gone no matter what. It was Duke or overseas for him. Kid wants paid.
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@FarmerJayhawk No I mean I’m surprised he played in college. I was thinking he might go the Mudiay/TFerg route and play somewhere else for a year and get paid.
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BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk No I mean I’m surprised he played in college. I was thinking he might go the Mudiay/TFerg route and play somewhere else for a year and get paid.
Ah gotcha. I was too. I figured he’d go with the UA to Australia pipeline.
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@kjayhawks I don’t know you well enough, but if that were from my lips “Serviceable NBA backup” it would have been dripping with sarcasm.
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@nuleafjhawk Lol, no that’s not in my sarcasm font, I actually think he can be.
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Newman can hopefully linger around the NBA but worst case scenario he is playing pro ball somewhere else for 1 million+ a year. He was smart to leave now.
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Figured Newman was a goner, and wish him luck. I enjoyed his month or two as a Jayhawk a lot for sure.
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@kjayhawks See, that’s just funny as hell to me. Be a legend in Lawrence and then make a bunch of dough, or jump to the NBA and be a well paid, no name pine rider for 10 years. Its probably just me - I only remember and respect players who stay the duration in college. I’m still pissed at Paul Pierce.
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@nuleafjhawk Pierce, Gooden, Aldrich and a few others at least stayed three years. I can live with that. Slipping in to get some ESPN time for a year. Bleh.
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@nuleafjhawk It depends on the situation, my inside sources told me he’d be here one year with him already playing one at MSU and sitting out a year. I’m not mad at any of the guys for leaving early, the purpose of college is to prepare yourself for your profession. If a kid is projected in the first round, which means you get a contract for 3 years, I have no problem with that. It’s not the kids fault it’s a faulty system. Now the kids that leave like Josh Selby to get picked late second round, one could argue that pretty silly but hell not being drafted worked pretty well for Selden.
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@nuleafjhawk I’m still mad at Norm Cook.
