Doke
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Even without Dok, any reason we shouldn’t be favored beating a team ranked 25 through 32 in the first weekend?
I’m excited to see more Silvio!
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@Gorilla72 and then there are those pesky handlers.
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@mayjay I see what you did there!
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@kjayhawks I’m going w/you! Could use a blessing!
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dylans said:
While I was reading this our good buddy Seth Greensberg said KU can win it all, but only if Dok and Devonte’ stay out of foul trouble. I hope Dok can play enough to get into foul trouble.
Well, by Seth’s reasoning we should win it all if Doke doesn’t play.
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@mayjay funny. He did expound upon it saying they needed to be on the floor for KU to win.
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@dylans Oh, crap.
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mayjay said:
@dylans Oh, crap.
Now I’ll take you out of context. Lol
That’s exactly what I thought when I heard Dok was injured…at least the edited version.
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In a wildly emotional Hollywood moment, the FB player comes in and goes off for 14 and 10 in the second round and then doke rides in on a white horse to take us home to the F4.
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As for the league tourney, we had best pray for OK to whip its in-state rival tonight. If we should have to play Okie State again, and without Doke, Merlin will have misplaced his Jayhawk Magic. We might just barely escape with a win vs. OU…if Young is cold from long range and if DeSousa can stay on the court for 20 minutes w/o fouling out. Of course, even WITH Doke, we likely would have gone down to the Cowboys. OSU is a nightmare matchup for the league champs. Whatever, it does appear that KU will get more rest than expected this weekend. If OSU shoulders its way into the NCAA Tournament, first weekend opponents could be in big trouble.
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Good grief. Doke out is tough, but Silvio has to grow up and step up. Its a lot, but its go time.
Love Meeotch, but hes soft.
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If we can make it through the first weekend all will be fine. This team is talented enough to do that even without Doke.
Let’s see what this team looks like without him this weekend before we jump to conclusions.
Bill should start watching some Rockets film though. Might need to take our 3pt shooting to an experimental level this weekend and see what that looks like. 5 guard lineups where we just run and gun. No open shot is a bad shot.
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Hope this puts us securely as a 2 seed in the Midwest then too.
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BeddieKU23 said:
We are probably foul trouble away from that happening.
That or Sam Cunliffe actually has to take off his sweats which for the past month hasn’t happened
Works for me.
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Gunman said:
BeddieKU23 said:
We are probably foul trouble away from that happening.
That or Sam Cunliffe actually has to take off his sweats which for the past month hasn’t happened
Works for me.
If coach thought he was worth playing before he would play. Now It’s just desperation like always
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@BShark Maybe he can come back after 10 days and play in the 2nd tourney game. We’ll see.
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Question: Will they really drop us down to a 2 based on the speculation that Doke won’t play? I thought seeds were based on what you earned during the season?
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A mild grade one MCL sprain usually takes 2-6 weeks to heal.
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I’ll be pleasantly shocked if he plays at all the rest of the year. Won’t have much hops off that leg for a while.
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Ah crap. Just like Joel with the poor timing. We were destined to do big things in that Dance with our only future NBA all star swatting and dunking. Now our current swatter and dunker gets injured right before this years Dance. Dammit!
I know, I know, all is not lost. And it’s been a great year. And Silvio could rock. But we definitely play better when he is on the floor.
Dammit!
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LISTEN…hear the collective sigh of relief from the B12?
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@dylans Did i ever tell you the story of the patella at the bar late one night, and a femur walked in?
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dylans said:
A mild grade one MCL sprain usually takes 2-6 weeks to heal.
Maybe with some low grade PT, strength, and TLC from Hudy…he can decrease that by maybe a few wks. Plus he’s young, and really healthy. You say 2-6 wks? I’m going to say with the above treatment, and with some luck…1-2 wks? 3 wks tops. Maybe he can wear a brace to provide some extra support.
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Thanks for the board comic relief, haha.
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KUSTEVE said:
@dylans Did i ever tell you the story of the patella at the bar late one night, and a femur walked in?
The cartilage was very articular, and all he saw was the posterior of the ligament…haha, we could go on and on…
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Doke might play in the NCAA Tournament, but he won’t be at 100% unless KU is playing games in April and even then it would be doubtful he’s 100% then.
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It’s up to him and his mobility. The degree of the sprain. This is the crazy MCL.
“I could tell the longer he stayed down that (KU associate director of sports medicine) Bill (Cowgill) was concerned,” Self added. “He didn’t have a lot of pain. It was just loose.” Azubuike had an MRI as soon as practice was over and the results of that, along with a diagnosis from Dr. Jeffrey Randall, revealed a Grade 1 sprain, which, in the medical world, is the least severe sprain a person can suffer.
“Similar to an ankle or whatnot, there’s obviously a ligament that’s strained or stretched and it’s too loose to put him back out there,” Self said. “But these are injuries that I’ve been told the healing process can begin very quickly, at 48-72 hours.”
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I’m with Benjamin Martin. Pokes come in with a little too much pride, and over confidence…we might get the W.
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@truehawk93 He’s still not going to be 100%. I’ve dealt with this injury in football before. I was playing 2-3 weeks later, but my knee wasn’t 100% until about 6-7 weeks after the injury even with rehab. Doke should be able to play in the NCAA Tournament, but like I said, he won’t be playing at 100%.
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I never said he would be 100%. May not be an option to chance aggravating it. He’s a big boy, and that’s a lot of weight. Thankfully he’s not playing football either.
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In a statement, Jayhawks coach Bill Self said Azubuike was hurt in a scrimmage.
“It is isolated. It is a Grade 1 sprain,” Self said. “We will hold him out this weekend in Kansas City, and he will be re-evaluated Sunday, and our expectation is that he’ll be back on the court next week.”
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@KUSTEVE lmao - - you goof what the hell – leave it to you buddy lol, you crack me up - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Hawk8086 There is a lot of different things that go into the seeding, such as how a team is playing recent – BPI- and yes even the health to a degree - if a key player is questionable or out - -I think to at least to some degree in the back of their heads they consider certain things such as that.
Example this year - - look at Norte Dame. - -All the talk about how seriously now the committee should consider them being invited now that Bonsie Colson is back. - -Talk about how they really can’t keep Norte Dame out - -so if your going off that basis then ya the committee takes things like an injury into some consideration when seeding for sure.
I think we could very easily end up as a # 2 - especially if we exited in the 1st game of the Big 12 tourney - -I think your probably looking at Duke taking our spot - -but actually a 2 might not be the worst scenario for us - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 Agree that a 2 might not be that bad. Matchups are more important than a 1 line difference in seeding.
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The main difference between a 1 and 2 seed is 2 seeds occasionally lose the first game. Being a 2 seeds turns it into a 6 game tournament instead of a 5 gamer for a 1 seed. After the first round matchups become much more important.
(Play in games are not the first round!)
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@dylans Fully agreed. I don’t want to jinx anything but going into the 2018 NCAA Tournament #1 seeds have won 100% of the games played against #16 seeds. That is significant.
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#2 are 124-8 against #15 seeds for a 94% winning percentage. Yes, upsets have happened but the odds are long.
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@JayHawkFanToo , MIZZOU says “hello”!
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What else would you expect from them?
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@JayHawkFanToo That is a good stat. I honestly did not think that the #2 seeds had been quite this dominant. Maybe it feels this way since there have been a few big ones in recent years? Duke, Mizzou, Michigan St., etc.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
What else would you expect from them?
Some Missouri fans recently showed up to one of Agbaji’s games just to heckle him because he picked KU. They are very mentally disturbed.
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Here is the entire record…
- #1 Seed vs #16 Seed - 132-0 - 100% Winning Percentage #1 Seed
- #2 Seed vs #15 Seed - 124-8 - 93.94% Winning Percentage #2 Seed
- #3 Seed vs #14 Seed - 111-21 - 84.09% Winning Percentage #3 Seed
- #4 Seed vs #13 Seed - 106-26 - 80.30% Winning Percentage #4 Seed
- #5 Seed vs #12 Seed - 85-47 - 64.39% Winning Percentage #5 Seed
- #6 Seed vs #11 Seed - 83-49 - 62.88% Winning Percentage #6 Seed
- #7 Seed vs #10 Seed - 81-51 - 61.37% Winning Percentage #7 Seed
- #8 Seed vs #9 Seed - 68-64 - 51.52% Winning Percentage #8 Seed
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@JayHawkFanToo Interesting how much it scales. You really want to be a 4 seed or higher.
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Yes, indeed, quite a drop from a #4 to a #5 seed.
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@JayHawkFanToo - I always pick at least one 5/12 upset. Looks like I need to look at 6/11 too!
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What’s amazing about the percentages is that there are clear dropoffs at different points.
There’s a clear gap between 1’s and 2’s, and between 2’s and 3’s. It also reflects the quality difference between 16’s and 14’s.
It also shows just how close the distance between 5’s and 12’s is (and the fact that seeds five through twelve are all nearly equal. This is why I would argue for a .500 record in conference as a benchmark to make the tournament, as many of the 7, 8 and 9 seeded teams aren’t any better than the top teams in most mid major conferences. Is Oklahoma (likely headed for a lower seed) any better than South Dakota (finished second in the Summit League, lost to South Dakota State in the conference tournament final)? Doesn’t it make more sense for a team with only 8 losses that finished second in its league to go to the NCAA tournament over a team with more than a dozen losses and finished second-to-last in its conference?
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@justanotherfan OU belongs in the NIT.
Also the regular season should determine auto-bids. ESPECIALLY at lower levels.
