Recruiting Thread
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I did see Vick in the first round in one NBA mock … http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft
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@KUSTEVE the key to deep March runs is defense. Been a long time since Self has fielded a good defensive team. I’m looking forward to it.
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Grimes expects to OAD. I hope he plays to that level at KU. Time will tell. I’d sure like to see high level play for more than one year out of a guy before he feels the need to get paid. The NBA drafting mostly on potiental makes it detrimental to stay in college too long for freak athletes.
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@dylans Well that Grimes thing didn’t start my day off well. I looked at 2019 mocks, didn’t see him, but got to the ESPN mock and sure enough, they have him #8. Langford is there too, at #9.
https://247sports.com/Gallery/ESPN-releases-first-2019-NBA-Mock-Draft-108163016/GallerySlides/704606
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@HighEliteMajor lol Don’t shoot the messenger. Grimes said he doesn’t expect to be in college to play with Markese in a recent interview. So I’m just reading between the lines.
I’m just trying to adjust my expectations. I still remember being peeved that Pierce left after his Jr. year.
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@dylans Seems like you’ve got the right read. The expecting thing with the recruits is one thing – but when a guy pops up at #8 in a mock, that sucks (selfishly). I guess I was a little clueless that Grimes was in the presumed OAD category. Hope he’s a world beater.
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Grimes is good enough to be OAD. We’ll see if he’s really the type I haven’t been this excited for a guard signee in a long time
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BMac with more aggressive nature to the hoop. So much more advanced then Ben was at this stage
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UK going after him hard says a lot, thankfully we are KU with a HoF coach and not the likes of Arkansas or Missouri so Cal didn’t swipe our legacy stud.
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Zion deciding probably by the end of January. Clemson I guess? I could see him going there or UNC. Not sure we’re really in it.
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Makes sense, use a no name program to showcase yourself for a year
Always thought unc had a great chance because of style of play. Have to think little going there didn’t help him though
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@BeddieKU23 UNC would be loaded with Zion. Maye, Johnson, Woods, and a few others return. Then add Zion, Little, and Coby White. Ole Roy has something special there.
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Sign me up for a KU UNC championship game next year. I’d like our odds.
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@BShark I could see that! I think KU, UNC, and UK are the best teams going into next season. Watch out for Oregon too.
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Wow, read that Matthew hurt, the big man from Minnesota that we are in on for 2019. - -think je is # 4 player.
Went off for 51 points – -17 rebounds - -5 assists - - 4 steals - - 4 blocks the other night – The kid is averaging 40 points a game right now. = =some one asked if he jacked up a bunch of 3’s - they said no just 2-4 from the 3
They ask if he was that good - -or the competition was that bad - -stated that Hurt is that good their school playing against bigger schools - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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He’s a total stud and very interested in KU.
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according to Kentucky they never recruited him lol otherwise he would be a wildcat.
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BeddieKU23 said:
according to Kentucky they never recruited him lol otherwise he would be a wildcat.
Grimes? LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Just poking fun at what they usually say when they miss out on someone they really wanted. They certainly got 3 studs going their way despite Q going to KU but we arguably got the best of the bunch.
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looks like Zion will announce soon, or so that’s what he hinted at. - -Probably either UK or Clemson sounds like - -they think Uk is the favorite right now, although I had heard that playing close to home and family was pretty big for him. - -We will see. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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One time post target last year Schnider Herard is transferring from Miss St. Another Miss St that didn’t do much while there is now on the move
Duke’s Jordan Tucker is transferring as well after barely playing this season. I don’t believe KU ever seriously went after him as he wanted Duke. How quickly things change.
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BeddieKU23 said:
One time post target last year Schnider Herard is transferring from Miss St. Another Miss St that didn’t do much while there is now on the move
Duke’s Jordan Tucker is transferring as well after barely playing this season. I don’t believe KU ever seriously went after him as he wanted Duke. How quickly things change.
I remember some posters, no one here, wanted to try and land him over pursuing Doke. Doke seems a liiiiittle bit better.
Weird to wait so long for an offer from the meat grinder and then transfer when you aren’t getting minutes. I’m sure he is disappointed that Goldwire is playing more but Duke has a lot of similar players to Tucker this year.
I wonder where they will end up. I like Tucker long term but KU isn’t looking like we will take any transfers this year.
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Wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up at Syracuse. It’s very weird that he’s leaving so early after waiting out an offer. I think he was probably not happy Barrett & Reddish coming in next year and Joey Baker the following as well
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@BeddieKU23 Fair point I wasn’t thinking about incoming recruits. No way he would get any PT next year.
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Ok guys, I have a question in our recruiting, and I think I already know the answer but curious to see if you think it’s right or no not right. Kind of silly thought - -but still anyways my question is:
In our recruitment with Romeo , do you think how Indiana season plays out will have a pretty decent factor for Romeo? - -What I mean is - -right now as of tonight they are currently 8-6 on the season, if they continue and have a so so , do you think that would sway him in any way negative wise towards Indiana and be more of a plus for us?
If they were to just end up with an average year or underachieving year - -I feel that only helps us more, as we know its down to KU - -Indiana - -& Vanderbilt. - -If they just so and Garland not landing at Indiana - I just truly have to feel actually our biggest threat for Romeo is more Vanderbilt then Indiana right? - -Even though Indiana is that close to home school some people talking about - I just feel with Garland not committing and then if they have just that’s so so season -got to help us.
I just think we could be in pretty good shape and on top of that if Vick should happen to leave I just think the combination of these things has to put us siting fairly nice wouldn’t you think? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Jayballer54 Looks like we could have a just so-so season ourselves. At least measured by KU standards. May be lucky to finish in the top four of the Big 12, unless the BIG help gets here fast. We are just totally outmanned and we will not hit 15 to 17 threes very often. One hope is for the balanced Big 12 to beat up on each other. But we can not lose at home again to have a chance at keeping the streak alive.
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Big Clyde52 said:
@Jayballer54 Looks like we could have a just so-so season ourselves. At least measured by KU standards. May be lucky to finish in the top four of the Big 12, unless the BIG help gets here fast. We are just totally outmanned and we will not hit 15 to 17 threes very often. One hope is for the balanced Big 12 to beat up on each other. But we can not lose at home again to have a chance at keeping the streak alive.
I know exactly what your talking about and agree. - -I think at this point anyways we are probably the or about the 4th best team in the Big 12. I’m not THAT sure that even having another big last night would of helped us or not. - - Our defense is just soooooooooooooooooo pathetic , I know there will be people here that say oh well if we would of had another big we wouldn’t haven’t got beat on the boards like we did. - - -the last time I heard/check SEVENTEEN offensive rebounds by Tech - -SEVENTEEN. and it’s not like these guys were bigger then us. The bottom line was - - -they wanted it more.
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Zion Williamson to announce his decision on January 20.
http://www.thestate.com/sports/high-school/prep-basketball/article192868409.html#storylink=hpdigest
Not really anything new in this article. A video not worth watching of a slo-mo dunk with talkover “Trust me. The best is yet to come” and “Jan 20” superimposed. Plus some info on his season so far (has not played since Nov 21 due to bruised foot).
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Hope he picks Clemson.
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@Kcmatt7 Clemson is at least ranked now, so it isn’t as silly a move as people were calling it last summer. But they did lose in the FB semifinal, so the campus is not as afire as it has been the past two years. And who knows what these guys think is important?
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@mayjay He looks real good going against pee-wees, not nearly as dominant against bigger and better athletes. IMO. I’ll probably end up taking that statement back, but I guess all the hype has me wondering if he is as good as they say. I wonder what he would be like in a program like ours that emphasizes team first. Hmmm…
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KUSTEVE said:
@mayjay He looks real good going against pee-wees, not nearly as dominant against bigger and better athletes. IMO. I’ll probably end up taking that statement back, but I guess all the hype has me wondering if he is as good as they say. I wonder what he would be like in a program like ours that emphasizes team first. Hmmm…
He’s dominated better competition as well. He was the best player at the Team USA camps in the fall which included Grimes and a bunch of other top ranked kids FYI. Watching his local HS competition isn’t going to give you the answer you were seeking IMO.
I have long thought he’d fit here, he’s not a selfish player. I think any team would be foolish not to run their offense through him because of his off the charts athleticism and physicality. We have all seen his crazy dunks but he’s got a ton of skill that gets overlooked. He doesn’t hunt bad shots, shoots a high % inside the arc, he knows his limits on the perimeter right now. Weight is a concern, you probably don’t want him playing at 270 as he could probably be lethal at the 245-250 range. Clemson is lucky he lives in the state.
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@BeddieKU23 If I am KU’s recruiter, I am calling him a bunch after our TT rebounding debacle this week with lots of information about how we will be bigger next year with otherworldly point guards coming in who can feed him. We do not want Zion believing he will be forced into trying to be another undersized post player here. “Really! We have lots of size lined up! Really!”
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I also thought signing Dotson would help us as well. That hasn’t had the momentum it once had
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@BeddieKU23 It could also hurt if anyone thinks Dotson could dupe Trae Young. Would OU have room this year for another OAD?
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I’d be stunned if it wasn’t Clemson.
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mayjay said:
@BeddieKU23 It could also hurt if anyone thinks Dotson could dupe Trae Young. Would OU have room this year for another OAD?
What?
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@BShark Yeah, probably not clear.
Meant dupe=duplicate Trae’s crazy year
I.e., would there be any fear on Zion’s part that having Dotson would not allow Zion to reach his full potential.
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@mayjay noy by me, maybe Grimes, but Zion isn’t a primary ball handler. They would play together nicely. I think Langford fits better yet. The team as a whole looks too loaded to put up Trae like numbers next season.
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Dotson and Zion would actually complement each other nicely.
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mayjay said:
@BShark Yeah, probably not clear.
Meant dupe=duplicate Trae’s crazy year
I.e., would there be any fear on Zion’s part that having Dotson would not allow Zion to reach his full potential.
Oh, in that case I don’t think so. Dotson isn’t perceived to be OAD and isn’t in the same shooting stratosphere as Trae.
Dotson will be a very good player for KU though, no doubt.
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He any good? As in better then his current rank?
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first video i’m seeing good size and frame for a guard and a heck of an athlete. good form on his shot
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BeddieKU23 said:
He any good? As in better then his current rank?
Yes. Is he KU good remains to be seen, I will trust the staff’s evaluation on that. He has been crushing the local scene but that’s obviously a big fwiw. He’s definitely a top candidate for the DiRenna (best KC area hooper).
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When it’s an area like KC an award like that the talent of the winner varies heavily year to year. Generally it’s at least a D1 player, though I think the 2016 winner ended up at Central Missouri.
Edit: Some of the better recent past winners are Kevin Puryear, Semi Ojeleye, Alec Burks and Marcus Denmon.
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Thanks. So Norm watches to keep tabs on a localish player making some noise. I would assume an offer wouldn’t seem likely until we know the fall out in the spring
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BeddieKU23 said:
Thanks. So Norm watches to keep tabs on a localish player making some noise. I would assume an offer wouldn’t seem likely until we know the fall out in the spring
Yeah pretty much. I don’t know the kid but being a late riser with his interest exploding it makes sense that he would wait now. His best offer is CSU at this point, so he can probably do better. He could definitely end up in the Big 12.
I certainly can’t see him getting a committable offer from KU when Romeo is still on the table.
Always good to see back-up plans/kicking the tires. Even if the staff feels really confident about getting Romeo it’s better to have players scouted that are decent options compared to totally scrambling late.
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That was my thinking in regards to Romeo. It seems any recruit brought in will be a guard(s).
