Recruiting Thread
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@JayHawkFanToo Almost seems like a coincidence how one of the best classes KU has had under Self comes immediately following the crackdown from the FBI…
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Prospects are choosing what they consider squeaky clean programs?
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Zion W deciding Saturday. Supposedly between Clemson and UK, but SC may have become more of a factor by signing the Louisville bonus baby.
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mayjay said:
Zion W deciding Saturday. Supposedly between Clemson and UK, but SC may have become more of a factor by signing the Louisville bonus baby.
Everyone is saying Clemson but I will never count Cal out until it is done.
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I think UK is out. I think Clemson, SC, and UNC are the three left.
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Fluff article on Agbaji’s visit: https://kansas.247sports.com/Bolt/Ochai-Agbaji-unofficially-visiting-Kansas-for-the-Kansas-State-game--113830802
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Best bit in it: “I talked to Coach Self. He was very interested in me and what I’ve been doing,” said Agbaji. “He told me he’s done recruiting kids just on rankings and all that. He wants tough guys that he can rely on and he thinks I can be that guy. He also said he’ll get out to see me play soon,” added Agbaji.
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Doesn’t the Louisville transfer have to sit one year like Cunliffe did?
I do think that SC has a decent chance although Clemson appears to be the favorite.
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I listened to self on an ESPN interview today. Pretty good
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What did he say? Any news on you know who?
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@JayHawkFanToo same
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@JayHawkFanToo Since he never played and was booted, but cleared by the FBI, Frank is applying for a waiver.
After all, FBI ain’t nothin compared to higher authorities like the En See Eh Eh.
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BShark said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
All three Class of 2018 prep players who signed with KU in the early signing period were selected to play in the McDonald’s All-American game.
This is a pretttty good class. Silvio probably would have made it too if he was still in HS.
Had Silvio stayed, I don’t know if he would have made the game or not. If he had, it likely would’ve been at the expense of McCormack who I believe is the only 4 star player in the game.
KU could still end up with 4 depending on Langford, or has he cooled on KU? I haven’t been able to following recruiting as close as I usually do this year so I don’t know what the most up to date on Langford is.
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Norm went to see Agbaji again last night.
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Keeping pretty close tabs I’d say…
Certainly indicates at least 1 underclass guard is not coming back right? Of course I could be reading too much into that but you don’t recruit multiple guards (Langford, Agbaji) for nothin’
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BeddieKU23 said:
Keeping pretty close tabs I’d say…
Certainly indicates at least 1 underclass guard is not coming back right? Of course I could be reading too much into that but you don’t recruit multiple guards (Langford, Agbaji) for nothin’
In the article it mention Self wants to see him. If that happens soon as well, things could happen pretty fast I’d think. Agbaji is a real junkyard dog, not afraid to mix it up at all. We all know how Self values that. I think he’d be a pretty good 4-5 year program player/glue guy. Since he is local I’m planning to get out to a couple of games to make my own observations. It does look like he is more than a back-up plan for Romeo though.
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If no scholarships are available, would he be a candidate to walk on, get financial assistance and be on line for a scholarship when one becomes available?
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@JayHawkFanToo unfortuanately no. Once you’re recruited as a player, you can’t walk on.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
If no scholarships are available, would he be a candidate to walk on, get financial assistance and be on line for a scholarship when one becomes available?
Not really, he has good solid D1 offers already. I think he would go to CSU or Oregon State over walking on here. That said I suspect there will be a scholarship available.
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@FarmerJayhawk Can you find that rule? I’ve never heard of that before.
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Wasn’t TJ Pugh recruited as a “preferred” walk on?
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FarmerJayhawk said:
@JayHawkFanToo unfortuanately no. Once you’re recruited as a player, you can’t walk on.
Never heard of that. Many schools that don’t have schoolies available still recruit players and invite them to walk on with financial assistance packages that are very close to a full scholarship.
I was just asking if he would be willing to walk on at KU with the promise of a future scholarship over getting one at a smaller program.
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dylans said:
Wasn’t TJ Pugh recruited as a “preferred” walk on?
There’s really no such thing as a preferred walk on, other than they may not have to try out for the team. I think the rub comes in the NCAA’s definition of recruited, since it’s actually pretty narrow:
(a) Providing the prospective student-athlete with an official visit; (b) Having an arranged, in-person, off-campus encounter with the prospective student-athlete or the prospective student-athlete’s parents, relatives or legal guardians; or
Issuing a National Letter of Intent or the institution’s written o er of athletically related financial aid to the prospective student-athlete. Issuing a written offer of athletically related financial aid to a prospective student-athlete to attend a summer session prior to full-time enrollment does not cause the prospective student-athlete to become recruited.As long as you don’t do those things, a player can walk on because he wasn’t “recruited.” At least that’s my understanding.
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@FarmerJayhawk Seems like we haven’t “recruited” him quite yet.
However, I don’t think he would come to KU and walk-on.
I also could see everyone but Doke leaving and we would still have a scholarship available for both him and Langford. Not out of the realm of possibilities.
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So when Coach Roberts went and seen him , said he seen enough to have him come to Lawrence last Saturday , came with his parents Coach talked to him a bit 6’5 - 6’5 1/2 - -SF - -SG .
Ha been drawing interest from: UMKC - - Colorado State - - -Air Force - - Fresno State. - -really coming on averaging 27 ppg & 9 rpg per game - -now drawing interest from Northern Iowa - -Bradley - -Oklahoma State - -& KU
Question is , wonder really how strong of interest we have? - -If we are now interested of any sort -does that mean they feel things not looking to good for Langford? - -We don’t have room for both - would be over the limit for sure. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Jayballer54 Going to see 2 games and having him come in for a visit in the span of two weeks probably indicates we are pretty interested. Definitely have room for him and Langford, these things work themselves out. That said there is almost no chance Langford comes if Vick stays.
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The financial aid cannot come from or be arranged by the athletic program. Any student is eligible to apply for normal aid packages, including work/study, loans, grants, and academic scholarships, and then try to walk on if available. But the permissible benefits limitations, and other rules against receiving money from 3rd parties associated with the school, still apply to walkons.
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Unless someone else in addition to Graham and Svi leaves KU will be short one scholarship, right? At this point I think Vick and Doke are coming back, so the other candidates are Newman and Preston; if one leaves we are full, if both leave then there is one scholarship available.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Keeping pretty close tabs I’d say…
Certainly indicates at least 1 underclass guard is not coming back right? Of course I could be reading too much into that but you don’t recruit multiple guards (Langford, Agbaji) for nothin’
In the article it mention Self wants to see him. If that happens soon as well, things could happen pretty fast I’d think. Agbaji is a real junkyard dog, not afraid to mix it up at all. We all know how Self values that. I think he’d be a pretty good 4-5 year program player/glue guy. Since he is local I’m planning to get out to a couple of games to make my own observations. It does look like he is more than a back-up plan for Romeo though.
Awesome I look forward to your observations.
Video’s show he’s certainly athletic enough to be at KU. Has solid form on his shot. I see some shades of Wayne Selden in him as far as body, athleticism.
Since his recruitment will likely go into the spring I see no reason why the staff shouldn’t be aggressive getting a relationship with him started and seeing what happens. I imagine the kid must feel pretty excited that he went from a few offers to interest from KU. That’s big time for any kid, especially local.
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BShark said:
@Jayballer54 Going to see 2 games and having him come in for a visit in the span of two weeks probably indicates we are pretty interested. Definitely have room for him and Langford, these things work themselves out. That said there is almost no chance Langford comes if Vick stays.
Ya that’s the big player I think , like you say - it’s ALL going to depend on Vick. - -I know some people seem to say Vanderbilt has the edge - - maybe so , BUT like I read off another poster , if that was the case then why wouldn’t of he already committed early to them - nothing to wait on with them and Indiana.
Just makes it look like he is waiting to see if Vick goes , I feel fairly good about him, cause I think Vick is gone, could be one of those cases where even if he were to come back his NBA stock might not go up enough for him to stick for another year - -If we get Romeo to go with what we got – look out - just insane. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Bill is checking in with Matt Hurt today. He might just be a top target.
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@BShark I hope so. Looks coordinated as hell for a 6’9 HS player.
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@Kcmatt7 He’s very good, legit NBA talent. Bill has closed in Minnesota before as I recall…
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Ochai Agbaji will be in AFH today for the Baylor game with his dad. Heaaating up.
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@BShark I don’t think we offer until the roster is more clear. If nobody leaves, we don’t have a scholarship anyway.
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I would be very surprised by no one leaving early (well besides Preston I guess since that is now official).
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BShark said:
Ochai Agbaji will be in AFH today for the Baylor game with his dad. Heaaating up.
nice when there’s a recruit close enough to visit. I’m sure
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2nd visit this month is big
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@BShark same here. I think Newman is the only one. Which if Langford goes to Vandy, I’d take this kid. He’s on a really nice development trajectory.
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I think Langford goes to Vandy, if your a top 10 pick potentially your gonna get shots at Vandy over what KU has. Its a business decision as they stressed
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Jermaine Couisnard, a kid that KU briefly looked at last spring before acquiring Moore took a prep year. He now has offers from South Carolina, Louisville, Virginia Tech and Illinois.
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BeddieKU23 said:
I think Langford goes to Vandy, if your a top 10 pick potentially your gonna get shots at Vandy over what KU has. Its a business decision as they stressed
I think if Vick leaves, we get him. Self has a great record of putti wings in the NBA.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
I think Langford goes to Vandy, if your a top 10 pick potentially your gonna get shots at Vandy over what KU has. Its a business decision as they stressed
I think if Vick leaves, we get him. Self has a great record of putti wings in the NBA.
Yes we do have a great track record. I’m just seeing it being an easier path for him at vandy. If he wants to win and learn from a HOF coach then I hope his decision is easy. We will see how it goes.
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Zion to Duke. WOW!
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@BShark crap
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They have the top 3 recruits…vomit
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They are all wings too, wtf is K selling.
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Ugh
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BShark said:
They are all wings too, wtf is K selling.
Money
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Watch Carter and Bagley return
