2018 Recruiting Thread
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wow this is crazy news
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But if he’s not eligible this season I wouldn’t count on the kid being here long enough to play the following year. There’s a big mess around this kid and the people around him. Character should count and there’s no reason to believe he wouldn’t Whitman us and bail
He’s a fantastic talent. Definitely the highest risk/reward factor we may have ever gotten involved with
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WHOA.
Slater just Cb’d Zion to KU. He doesn’t make these picks without inside information.
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@BeddieKU23 Nice! He does play on the Adidas circuit and has said he likes playing with Dotson a lot and that they have discussed going to the same school.
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BeddieKU23 said:
WHOA.
Slater just Cb’d Zion to KU. He doesn’t make these picks without inside information.
Whoaaaa, wouldn’t that be crazy, I too have read about how he liked playing with Dotson, I’ll try and keep things in check BUT even the remote possibility just made me tingle just a little bit lol. - - I mean that deserves a JUMPIN - - -GEE - - HOSSA - - FAYS - - -sorry, got carried away. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 KU has always been in there pretty deep with Zion. Doesn’t hurt that he’s been playing with Dotson, that’s for sure.
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RockkChalkk said:
@BeddieKU23 Nice! He does play on the Adidas circuit and has said he likes playing with Dotson a lot and that they have discussed going to the same school.
Good point you made. That is potentially a very good thing Dotson and Zion played together. He also has said he would like to play with Quickley who’s a Kentucky lock. We’ll see, we’d hope Adidas has some pull here as it doesn’t ever seem to be the case unlike with Nike’s influence. We’ll see if Slater has some good info (which he generally does).
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Ok, now I’m dreaming a little - -but it makes me drool the thought even the remote possibility but hey that’s what dreams are for right. - -How about this for a recruiting year for 18 - - - Grimes, Dotson, Williamson & Williams I could go for that - - Williamson - SF - - - Williams - PF - - then having Dotson & Grimes - -Grimes at the 2 - - & Dotson at PG - -I would take that in a minute lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Oh and this CB change, it comes on the heels of Slater doing a lengthy interview with Zion.
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5-Star transfer Mitchell Robinson just put a picture of him in a Kansas jersey on his Snapchat story. A sign that KU may be involved?
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Now if we land him our 2018 starting line up will feature 4 transfers! Moore, Lawson X2, and Robinson? All with a rs season in the system. Plug in Vick, Garrett and our starting line up looks Solid. That doesn’t even account for anyone like Zion or if one of our bigs stick around for another year? We could be absolutely loaded for 2018!
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Any way we could get a waiver on Mitchell so he could play right away?
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KUSTEVE said:
Any way we could get a waiver on Mitchell so he could play right away? That would be nice buddy , BUT it sounds like that would be highly unlikely, more chance that he would have to sit. – -ROCK CHALK ALL ADY LONG BABY
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@BShark Is Slater’s interview with Williamson viewable anywhere? - - - or is it in the interview where he is talking more about the possibility of him and Dotson being a package deal? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@KUSTEVE I do not think Robinson has a chance of playing this year. It sets a dangerous precedence. Only way out is if he plays the card that he went to WKU because of his God Father or whatever and then he left and Robinson wanted out but was already stuck due to his LOI.
NCAA can’t let him just leave and play somewhere else. Imagine how many kids would switch schools after the first time coach yelled at them… He will have to come up with one hell of an argument.
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@BeddieKU23 Once he transfers he is stuck there unless he goes pro basically. NCAA only grants you one transfer, or two if you become a grad transfer. So unless Robinson wants to go play pro ball overseas or sit out and enter next years draft he will be stuck wherever it is he transfers to. I think that is a major reason Bill takes these guys.
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If Coach Self lands this guy he has basically started a new 5 star transfer pipeline lol. Newman, Lawson, and Robinson. Basically three 5 star guys in the last 2 years. If he lands this one and he stays 2 years we will have a heck of a 2018-2019 team!
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After reading Slater’s interview, seems like Adidas is making a push on him. Good to hear Arizona dropped out of the race. UNC doesn’t sound like they are in real contention.
I think it comes down to Duke, KU and UCLA. If we can convince Dotson to come to KU we might get the edge on him.
Langford is the same. I think Adidas made a hard push on him. Down to KU, IU and UL basically.
I think we land one of those two now that I see Adidas making moves.
At this point, if Self doesn’t land 3 studs I am going to be very very disappointed. Between Langford, Dotson, Grimes, Williamson and Barrett we need to land 3 guys. Next year’s team has amazing depth and will have solid veteran college basketball players. But what we will need desperately is some playmaking on the offensive end.
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Now that we seem like w might be getting some love, with Zion, it will be huge to get him on campus for an official visit. - -If we could get him here say with Devon for a visit possible late night, couldn’t ask for more. - -Gives a chance, at least it’s a chance, even the field, let him check out the dorms, the facilities, the overall atmosphere, the environment - -can’t hurt for sure. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Once he transfers he is stuck there unless he goes pro basically. NCAA only grants you one transfer, or two if you become a grad transfer. So unless Robinson wants to go play pro ball overseas or sit out and enter next years draft he will be stuck wherever it is he transfers to. I think that is a major reason Bill takes these guys.
There isn’t anything stopping Robinson from going pro after this year if he has to sit. He will have met the minimum requirement. Whether the NBA will want him or not is a different story.
Character should mean something when going after this guy. The first impression he has made in College is not a good one. Yes he’s a young kid, mistakes happen, kids change their minds. I know Self wants to have the most talented players out there but this one comes with a lot of red flags and questions.
I personally think he ends up at LSU. Kind of a Newman situation where he choose the wrong school first time around because of outside pressure
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@BeddieKU23 Self would approach him like he did Newman and make it clear if he comes to Kansas its a 2 year ordeal if he the NCAA doesn’t clear him to play this year.
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There were a lot of guys on this very board that said Newman would bold after sitting out last year. That didn’t happen because Self explained to him and his family that he would mess up recruiting. It all worked out so far.
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Statmachine said:
@BeddieKU23 Self would approach him like he did Newman and make it clear if he comes to Kansas its a 2 year ordeal if he the NCAA doesn’t clear him to play this year.
I’m sure he would but would he really honor it? There is nothing but his word to hold that true.
Robinson has already bailed on one team and didn’t even have the courtesy to tell his team or coach he was leaving. He left in the middle of the night like a chicken.
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Statmachine said:
There were a lot of guys on this very board that said Newman would bold after sitting out last year. That didn’t happen because Self explained to him and his family that he would mess up recruiting. It all worked out so far.
Yes the concerns for Newman were valid. He didn’t go against his word.
This situation with Robinson is different.
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It might be different but it will be approached in the same manner.
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One of Zion or Langford and I won’t complain about Adidas for awhile. Assuming we also get Grimes.
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Quinerly is announcing tonight between Nova and Zona. I hope it’s Zona and also LOL guess he isn’t taking that KU courtesy visit.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Statmachine said:
There were a lot of guys on this very board that said Newman would bold after sitting out last year. That didn’t happen because Self explained to him and his family that he would mess up recruiting. It all worked out so far.
Yes the concerns for Newman were valid. He didn’t go against his word.
This situation with Robinson is different.
I agree, it’s a risk. If KU was extremely well positioned with a top 2018 C I’m not sure it would be a risk worth taking. However I think this could end up working out and KU isn’t greatly positioned with a top C. Robinson is way better than McCormack who might end up at Okie Lite anyway.
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BShark said:
Quinerly is announcing tonight between Nova and Zona. I hope it’s Zona and also LOL guess he isn’t taking that KU courtesy visit.
I hope its Zona as well but the recent chatter had been Nova. Did he visit Nova recently?
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His last logged visit was Zona, but you know how that is. He could have been in to Nova unofficially.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Statmachine said:
There were a lot of guys on this very board that said Newman would bold after sitting out last year. That didn’t happen because Self explained to him and his family that he would mess up recruiting. It all worked out so far.
Yes the concerns for Newman were valid. He didn’t go against his word.
This situation with Robinson is different.
I agree, it’s a risk. If KU was extremely well positioned with a top 2018 C I’m not sure it would be a risk worth taking. However I think this could end up working out and KU isn’t greatly positioned with a top C. Robinson is way better than McCormack who might end up at Okie Lite anyway.
I think its a huge risk. Newman just wanted to get to the NBA and his year at Miss St just completely backfired. We’re seeing how talented the kid is now. Malik bought into a 2nd chance and his father made sure he followed through with it.
With Robinson we have all this stuff about his mother having no control and the Godfather and other outside influences pulling the strings. If that stuff is true and most of it seems to be, then we are talking about a fragile situation. His coach alluded to accountability and taking care of himself in his exit. We can read between the lines there to know it was the “nice thing to say”. On paper Robinson is a great fit at KU. Everything else is a mess. I trust our coach would take precaution here deciding if he’s worth it.
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@BeddieKU23 I think you take your shot on someone with talent and backed into a corner like Robinson is. NBA teams wouldn’t want to take a shot on someone who you basically just said could quit at any second and was a team cancer and is unreliable, etc.
So now you have an uber-talented kid who really has nowhere to go and has motivation to prove himself. Not to mention that sitting an entire season while going through demoralizing practices is definitely one way to make a kid with ego problems more humble.
I’m going to spin it as we have the chance to have a motivated, 2nd year 5-star footer. And I would take that all day long.
Now odds are he does end up at LSU, but staff should be selling the hell out of coming here and getting PT.
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@BShark Agreed. They gave us JJ and Wigs. But we should seriously be landing a top 10 guy every single season. Adidas should buy us a player every single season. With that being said, if we land 1 of those two I agree I will back off of them for a couple of seasons. If they get us both, I’ll just stop entirely.
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Grimes/Dotson/Zion would be incredible. I’ll also believe it when I see it but damn, fun to think about.
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Matt with his CB for Zion to KU as well.
Another player Dontarius James, unranked SF just got a CB to KU as well. His page says KU offered yesterday. His list of offers isn’t impressive…
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Arizona board got an interview with Grimes. Says his top 3 is KU, Zona, Texas
Zona’s pitch is he’s their top priority. Will see how much that changes if Quinerly signs with Zona. Their other pitch to him was to play pg and sg.
Texas- says he knows Matt Coleman, home school
KU- come in and play right away.
Been mostly the same for a while. Only visit right now is to KU for Late Night. We’ll see what other’s he sets up and when, if any!
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@BeddieKU23 Well we all know that is because he saw Slater’s. Matt has no inside information.
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Thread getting very long…time to start a new one?
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Well we all know that is because he saw Slater’s. Matt has no inside information.
You know it!
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BShark said:
Grimes/Dotson/Zion would be incredible. I’ll also believe it when I see it but damn, fun to think about.
Was thinking about the same thing. Monster class if it happens
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@BeddieKU23 Although, I suppose it should make me feel better about the weight that a Slater CB pick carries…
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Although, I suppose it should make me feel better about the weight that a Slater CB pick carries…
Especially coming off an interview with him. Slater isn’t always right but is plugged in as much as anyone with connections. A duke guy switching his pick says something. Could be the recent momentum with Dotson and Zion playing together. I don’t think Zion’s camp is in any rush to decide either
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Although, I suppose it should make me feel better about the weight that a Slater CB pick carries…
Forgive my ignorance, but what does CB mean?
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mayjay said:
Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Although, I suppose it should make me feel better about the weight that a Slater CB pick carries…
Forgive my ignorance, but what does CB mean?
Crystal Ball
247 sports uses to forecast which players are going where. Sometimes they mean something, sometimes they don’t. This particular person CB’d Zion to KU after an interview with him. Slater is a Duke insider and is one of the few people in the AAU scene that gets information
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@BeddieKU23 Thank you. I was pretty sure they weren’t trying to remake “Convoy”. “Breaker, breaker…”
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mayjay said:
@BeddieKU23 Thank you. I was pretty sure they weren’t trying to remake “Convoy”. “Breaker, breaker…”
You now have the recruiting lingo down. Your lesson is complete!
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At point guard, from Charlotte, North Carolina…Number X… Devon Dotson.
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@BShark Just picked up another CB pick for Dotson to KU by some Arizona insider (Jason Scheer).
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