Transfer talk



  • Self commented colbey is looking to tranfer. Repirted on kusports.



  • @Fightsongwriter really hate hearing it!



  • Eeeeyup.



  • @Crimsonorblue22. Me too really like what he brought when he got a chance.



  • Seriously. Now we don’t know. I get that. However, 14 scholarship players. 13 scholarships. Svi in limbo. Now we hear that Coleby will be making a decision in the coming days about whether to stay? Funny, Svi will be making a decision in the coming days too. How obvious is this?

    Let me guess. Svi stays, Coleby goes. Svi goes, Coleby stays.

    Here’s the article LINK



  • @HighEliteMajor Rumors started about Coleby leaving a couple of weeks ago. Then Self brings in Whitman which to me was the writing on the wall with Coleby. Coleby was a solid plater abd would’ve been a good fit off the bench for Self next year, but Whitman seems like a better fit for the high-low which seems like what KU is going back to next year without any great drivers on the team.

    Should still be a great shooting team, just may not see many FT’s from the guards this upcoming season.



  • @HighEliteMajor Thanks for the update. I agree with your last paragraph.

    BUT, I am utterly shocked that no one has even considered the possibility that all these dozens of graduate transfers might really just be transferring to attend an institution that offers a desired graduate program not available at their alma matria. Isn’t that what the NCAA requires of graduates to avoid a 1-year wait? Basketball is clearly secondary!

    Okay, no, I couldn’t write that with a straight face…



  • @Fightsongwriter Yep, saw that too.
    Whats that mean? Svi is coming back and Coleby is the odd man out in the post in terms of minutes available.
    TreVon Duval is going to Duke or Kentucky… I forget which



  • You mean nobody on the team has parents that could pay the tuition? Hate to see Coleby leave. Wouldn’t a graduate transfer be eligible for academic scholarships in their graduate program?



  • Could be that Svi is staying in and this opens up a spot to get Tilmon.



  • It does seem too coincidental that Svi and Coleby have similar decision timelines. It smells like they are connected. The odd part is that they don’t play the same position. Im intrigued by the Tilmon hypothesis, that would actually make more sense.



  • Can’t blame him. Pieces falling that we expected. I think Svi will be back. Tilmon should still be a priority now. Especially with Billy Preston’s uncertainty.



  • Interesting, for sure. Does make you wonder about Tilmon. For one it just doesn’t add up that if he was soooo 100% Mizzery - -then way so silent? - -Why has I been this long and still nothing? - -No commit to Mizzery as their fans seem to think he is a lock for there?

    I have this feeling that their fans seem to think just because they got Porter that they NOW will be able to land them any recruit they want - -and now they are this BIG BAD National powerhouse. - -Really? - -How’s that working for ya? - -Didn’t land you Knox like you thought for sure he was coming because of Porter? Time to wake up.

    For some reason Tilmon has not committed - -almost maybe like he was waiting to see how things shaped up at KU -looking for something to open - - Could be a reach - but kind of odd - time will tell. STILL think we have seen the last of SVI, said it before - -will say it again, just feel he is done at KU, was talking today about ankle a lot better no limp - -hoping to be able to work out for 2-3 teams before final decision time - Time will tell in all of this. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • @jayballer54 I think that Tilmon would have been 100% Mizzou if they landed Knox. It’s fun to go be part of a winner.

    But now Mizzou isn’t a winner yet. And Jontay will probably reclass. I would bet he starts. And Puryear will start. Really doesn’t leave a spot for Tilmon to start their either…

    So, you can either not start at Mizzou, who will be without the Porters in year 2 and struggle, or you can not start at Kansas and play and practice against NBA talent every day.



  • If speculating, I would speculate Svi and Coleby’s decisions have absolutely nothing to do with each other from a timing perspective.

    Svi is begging a team to take him in the 2nd round and will stay in the draft if he gets any kind of guarantee. Looks like he’ll rehab his ankle and try and do a few more workouts before the deadline. And there was a good point made by some NBA people about Svi’s role if he does go back to College. He’s most likely the 3rd-4th option again so going now might be his best chance. He may not have an expanded role to put up better #'s etc and may end up hurting whatever his stock is right now.

    Coleby graduating was always a possibility, just not one that was talked about much. I think he goes somewhere he can get more then a rotational role.

    Having the spot open and possibly grabbing Tilmon would be best case scenario of losing both



  • Well there goes Tilmon. Committed to Mizzo. Maybe they will enjoy some NOT success.



  • guess the open scholarship could be going to someone else if Svi/Dwight leave…



  • @BeddieKU23 I think Coleby is waiting on Svi’s decision. Can’t have less than 10 guys on the roster and he will play quite a bit next year if Svi doesn’t come back.

    At least it appears that way.



  • @CaptnMo Welp - - guess what I’m not worried - -you worried? he mistake he be a nice BACK UP for them - -won’t see the floor as a starter. - -In the long run doesn’t effect us I how our season turns out.

    Unless we meet in the Tourney and then you know what? - -Still not trippen - -I think I’ll take our chances with OUR COACH over whz his name lol – CONZO.

    The one thing is - -we MIGHT get set up with them as an opponent now in the Big 12/SEC challenge - - Still not worried - -WHY? - -if that were to happen - - # 1 - -we would be playin at the Phog - - # 2 - -Cause we are KANSAS and MIZZERY is MIZZERY. lmao - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • Well looks like our 2017 recruiting is NOW officially over- -we still in good shape - -BECAUSE We are still pretty loaded - -& we have Coach. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • @brooksmd

    Just because you are accepted to a graduate programs does not mean you will get an academic scholarship. Academic scholarships are given to superior students, at least they used to be, and they do not cover all expenses; financial aid might be available but it is mostly loans. Athletic scholarship are much, much better.

    Of course, if you are an illegal alien, Emory University will pay 100% of your financial aid. Boggles the mind, doesn’t it?



  • Scuttlebutt is KU backed off Tilmon due to academics. Heard this well before he committed to MU.



  • jayballer54 said:

    Well looks like our 2017 recruiting is NOW officially over- -we still in good shape - -BECAUSE We are still pretty loaded - -& we have Coach. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

    Maybe not. Svi and Coleby could both still leave. Wouldn’t be an exciting addition but if that happens Self would still look to fill the scholarship. I hope one of Svi/Coleby is back tbh.



  • @jayballer54

    MU will likely end up like LSU in 2015, a team that had two 4-star players and two 5-star players including the #1 HS player that also went #1 in the draft…that team did not even make it to the NCAA.



  • The funny part is Tilmon most likely won’t even start at Missouri



  • @BeddieKU23 Regarding Coleby graduating, I think that was possible since January – meaning he would just have to pass his final credits he enrolled in to be eligible to leave. The planets just have kind of aligned a bit since the end of the season - 1) Svi announced for the combine on April 12 and 2) Whitman committed to Kansas on May 3. I had heard nothing about Coleby possibly leaving until those two both happened. Of course, the latter item did two things – it brought in a guy to play where Coleby might (as the third big) and it pushed us to 14 scholarships (one too many).

    It could all just be coincidence. But we’ve just seen some of those coincidences over the years.

    But I’m speculating too.



  • @JayHawkFanToo Ya exactly that’s kind of the way I’m looking at it. I just think the chemistry makeup on that team will not be good.

    I think what is going to end up happening in a lot of games for them - -everyone gonna wanna be a hero - -especially in close games - - think it’s going to come down to a me, me, me type of game - -instead of Team - -I think Porter like SOOO many other high school studs gonna find out huge difference between High School and major College D-1 ball. Seen it happen way to many times. Where they just outclass most of the ones they play against, and then they get to College and try some of those same moves and other things they was able to do in High School and then they pick spaulding off their face or head , they soon realize those moves in High School ain’t cutting it in College.

    Josh was actually kind of rarity -Josh was the real deal, not saying this just because he played here - -but he really had it all, I just don’t think you see it that often - - Tatum - -good player - but not complete - more offensive ,Giles? - -well we know that story - - Lonzo Ball? - - God player - - defensive liability Ball a rebounder? - -Please. Now Fultz probably as close to Josh as anyone.

    I just think your gonna see Porter won’t be able to have that all around game - -In College he isn’t a player that will carry a team, and Don’t think he is enough of a team player - I think Conzo will turn him loose instead of focusing on team - -and that’s gonna cost them. - Ya he may get numbers BUT if MIZZERY people think he makes them a final four next year - - Umm NO. – I think when he comes up against A CLASS of high profile - -like Kentucky it’s gonna be trouble. - -Kentucky gonna have his lunch, Tilmon not gonna be able to help against talent like that - I just don’t see it - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • @BeddieKU23 Exactly



  • @JayHawkFanToo They need a “not bad” coach like Weber?



  • @JayHawkFanToo Cuonzo had that same thing at Cal and BARELY squeezed into the tourney…



  • @HighEliteMajor

    No question Weber would get maximum production…and they would be gone after a year anyway…



  • @JayHawkFanToo @Kcmatt7 Combine Weber and Cuonzo? Can anyone do one of mix deals where they combine faces? A squeaky black dude … Mike Tyson?



  • @JayHawkFanToo You mean undocumented immigrant don’t you? We must stay PC so as not to offend.



  • @JayHawkFanToo If you read your own source, you will see that like financial aid packages to most students, it consists of loans and work study in addition to grants and scholarships. Loans where work study is not available.



  • @mayjay

    You missed the forest for the trees…SMH.



  • @JayHawkFanToo I just responded to your statement that Emory was footing the bill. Not so, but Breitbart leads astray again.



  • @brooksmd

    You can put lipstick on a pig and it is still a pig - Many authors

    They can call him anything they want but a foreign individual that enters our country illegally it is and always will be an illegal alien.



  • @mayjay Many sites are reporting that and this from Emory seems to support it.

    http://www.studentaid.emory.edu/DACA/index.html



  • @mayjay

    From the Emory Web Site:

    0_1494883399936_upload-0ebce6ee-f446-407b-b81e-4b3461e81d31

    So, if the student does not qualify or any of the loans, grants or work study programs (remember they cannot work because they are here illegally and it is still against the law to do so and as illegal aliens they are not eligible for grants) then Emory pays for 100% of the demonstrated financial need?



  • @Kcmatt7 Exactly my point - -Thanks. - -He didn’t do it at Cal no reason to believe he gonna get it done at Mizzery - as far as I’m concerned Rabb just as good as porter. - -just to name one - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • Colby’s gone too. announced his transfer today.



  • @dylans pinning a lot of hopes On Mitch. I don’t like it. Coleby and Udunka coulda been da bruise bruthas.



  • Fightsongwriter said:

    @dylans pinning a lot of hopes On Mitch. I don’t like it. Coleby and Udunka coulda been da bruise bruthas.

    Doubt Mitch plays much.



  • I do not like this - not one little bit.



  • @BShark Then we seem a bit thin again, esp if Preston has eligibility issues.



  • Fightsongwriter said:

    @BShark Then we seem a bit thin again, esp if Preston has eligibility issues.

    Preston will be good to go. Edit: In terms of eligibility. His ability to play for Self concerns me with his PERCEIVED attitude. Hopefully, he straps on his boots.

    @KUSTEVE

    He wasn’t going to play substantial minutes.



  • @BShark Not one little bit.



  • All this means is Whitman for sure be the back up for Udoka, in the long run Whitman more fluid - -quicker, better hops it’s gonna be ok. Preston and Vick playing together - - and then we Still have Mitch behind Whitman and Udoka Not to Worry - - -Don’t worry - - be happy. - - Plus even though I have said SVI is gone - who knows anything possible I guess - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • GM Self traded Coleby for Whitman. It looks like Whitman is more skilled, but that only leaves Udoka as the banger.

    With Svi’s return (hopefully!) could we see more 4-1 action next year? Or will Preston be used somewhat similar to how Sr. Ellis was used (Hybrid 4-1 labeled 3-2)? Seems unlikely that Preston won’t get major minutes. Barring injury Udoka should get as many minutes as his conditioning will allow, but there isn’t a true backup at the 5. Whitman seems more like a 4. Will he play nice with Preston?

    Oh yeah and there’s Mitch…I expect nothing from him so any production will be a welcome surprise.



  • @JayHawkFanToo While US kids go deep in debt paying for their own education and that of freeloading illegals through higher tuition costs. As Yakov Smirnoff would say, “What a country!”


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