Sweet 16 Schedule
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gah…these reporters ask the most ridiculous questions after defeats sometimes.
“what was the mood in the locker room immediately after the game”
“Jubilation and glee, man. We were all stoked to have our tails handed to us by an inferior South Carolina Team. We were all laughing about Coach Martins ridiculous suit he was wearing, too. Overall, just a good time to come in here after an “L” and spend one last time with all of my teammates”
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@Blown I loved coach martins jacket, or suit
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@Crimsonorblue22 fine. but his pants were atrocious. It didn’t fit right. Pants, nor jacket.
But I like Frank. Just thought his suit was terrible.
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Didn’t notice the pants
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@Blown to big?
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I take it you loved as in funny, ha, ha. His suit was hideous, in the words of some of my guests (females); the guys did not even notice it.
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@Crimsonorblue22 check, that. maybe that’s just how he likes his suits to fit. too big, too loose. sized wrong.
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@JayHawkFanToo I loved the jacket! Honest.
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@Blown ewwww! Not attractive! Just liked that jacket
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@Crimsonorblue22 Jay Wright can rock a suit. One of the best. Here’s one for the road, though …
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I also liked the ex NBA, S Carolina’s guy’s threads, he looked very sharp!
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@Blown nooooo
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Yep. Jay Wright in college and Pat Riley in the NBA are the GQ standard.
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@JayHawkFanToo I wasn’t implying coach Martin was gq material!
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I wasn’t either, simply naming the best dressed coaches. Frank Martin is a big guy and it is difficult for big people to look good and wear comfortable clothes…and you need to be comfortable while on the sidelines.
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@JayHawkFanToo huggy!
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Yes…comfortable over GQ.
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Frank Martin’s weight moves around so he tightens his belt when he is on the light side. Another thing… Cubans often wear baggy clothes. It is cultural.
Speaking of Frank… I thought he dealt with the politics well, too -
South Carolina’s Frank Martin calls Confederate flag protest unfortunate
I’m not a fan of the Confederate flag… but I respect everyone’s right to free speech and it looks like Frank thinks the same way.
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@drgnslayr I like frank a lot! Self often says he has a circle of about 10 close coach friends. Assuming those are ex Jayhawk guys, izzo and who else?
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@JayHawkFanToo said:
I take it you loved as in funny, ha, ha. His suit was hideous, in the words of some of my guests (females); the guys did not even notice it.
You know, that is just the way. Men pay attention to personality, charm and sense of humor. Women are constantly judging men by how they look. Making men into objects, like we are all supposed to be nothing more than eye candy…Sheeeeeez!
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ROTFLMAO…
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Kind of like this in reverse?
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I will be attending the SJ games and will have to catch the KU game from the SAP Arena on some remote screen. I’m trusting all of you to fill my void in front of a proper screen.
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@Bwag not this year!
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@wissox It’s weird they don’t care about ratings since ratings determine how much they can charge for advertising.
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@StLJhawk Heck…Dook losing made my bball year. Anything else is cake.
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@StLJhawk Yeah…that ACC was the strongest and dook was going to win it all based on the showing from their conference tourney. Oh and ISU replay KU to show who is truly the B12 Champion.
Oh wait…they LOST.
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Not really. Prime Time on the East and Pacific is 8-11 PM instead of the 7-10 PM that we are used in the Central and Mountain times. I bet CBS has it set up to maximize viewership in ways that we don’t know and the NCAA might have a say on it as well…they always do.
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@JayHawkFanToo Oregon (west coast team) will be tipping off at 4pm local time. That’s not maximizing viewership. Flipping tip iffs and having KU tip a 6pm local time and then having Oregon tip a 6pm local time is maximizing viewership.
How much would we be bitching if KU had a 4pm local tip off in the Sweet 16? If I’m an Oregon fan, I’m pretty pissed off about that tip time because if I work a normal 9-5, I’m missing most of that game.
The NCAA/CBS flat out screwed up the tip times for the Midwest region.
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Do you think CBS would purposefully sabotage its own ratings? Keep in mind the order of the games is predefined well ahead of time by the NCAA and CBS might not have had a choice. Networks are in the business of maximizing viewership and they probably know a thing or two we don’t know…and Dan Rather is not around to walk out if games go long…the old timers in the Forum will know what I am talking about.
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@JayHawkFanToo You’re right, the tip times are determined well in advance. What’s not determined well in advance is which game fills which time slot. All we knew in advance was KU would play on Thursday after they beat MSU. We didn’t find out until after every Round of 32 game had concluded that KU was in the late time slot on CBS.
Since you’re so deadset on that NCAA knows what they’re doing (I call BS on that by the way), tell me how Oregon tipping off at 4pm is maximizing West Coast viewership?
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Please read my post. I did not say the NCAA knows what it is doing, most of the time it does not. I DID say CBS is in the business of maximizing viewership but they might not have had a choice as the schedule is mandated by the NCAA. OTOH, maybe they have information that they have a larger viewership in the East and Midwest than the do on the West Coast. I certainly do not claim to know more than CBS about maximizing viewership so it would be ridiculous for me to tell them they are wrong.
Maybe it is a petro-shoe conspiracy.
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@JayHawkFanToo CBS has no say in which games they broadcast at this point. All they have is the time slot blocked out and the NCAA determines which game goes in which time slot. Go look at the other 3 regions and there are two inconsistencies with the Mid West. One is that UCLA and Arizona are in the late time slots and the highest seeded team left in the other 3 regions all play in the early game to maximize rest time.
I will just about guarantee that the Oregon/Michigan game is going to be the lowest rated of the 4 Sweet 16 games on CBS because of the 4pm West Coast tip time. No matter what, there’s going to be an EST team tipping at 9:30pm on Thursday, but flipping those two games puts KU at a 6pm local tip which isn’t a problem for most fans, and would put Oregon at a 6:30 local tip which again, maximizes West Coast viewership. Instead, you have 1/4 of your viewing market that will miss the majority of a game because of a 4pm local tip, and another big chunk of the viewership that will likely be asleep before the end of the second game. Tell me how the current tip times maximizes viewership instead of hurting viewership and therefore hurting the bottom line because companies can point to the crappy ratings that are getting ready to happen and say we’re not paying full price for a Sweet 16 advertising slot on Thursday because your ratings were crap.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Alex English. Saw him play a couple times while stationed in Denver. Was a heck of a player in the '80’s.
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@JayHawkFanToo Poor Alan. But how can you not notice those things? What’s a guy to do?
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I am sure CBS determined what was the schedule that would minimize audience and went with it…enthusiastically.
If you have an issue with CBS, then take it up with them. Here is where you can contact them. I am sure they will be happy to hear how you school them in TV scheduling and marketing.
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In this day in age nothing much short of walking away…
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CBS reseeded all the teams and has Gonzaga as #1 claiming they only lost 1 game…I want to see WVU spank them silly and show them for the overrated team they are. KU was the overall #2l seed and considering the first two wins, there is no doubt KU should be #1.
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@Blown I was thinknig the same thing when I watched the post game after the UC Davis Game like come on man these guys just lost and you’re asking the dumbest questions possible.
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@Blown That suit is god awful. A man with that kind of money ought to be able to afford a few nice tailored suits. Every man should own a few tailored suits in fact.
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@JayHawkFanToo The writer, Norlander, has picked KU in his bracket to win the title. Seedings are based on records, metrics, etc and there is no doubt Ganzaga has a strong claim. No heartburn here, or need to feel dissed as (horrors!) his #2 seed.
FYI, your link is actually to a Shiver slideshow of the CBS article. The CBS link on the 1st one, SC, has it all on one page and is easier to read.
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@BeddieKU23 I’m taking the following:
- Oregon
*KU
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West Virginia
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Arizona
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Butler
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Kentucky
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Baylor
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Florida
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Ok, one last poke at Duke while it’s fresh…
Nation Thrilled Grayson Allen Returned To Duke For One More Crushing NCAA Loss
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According to 538, KU is currently the most likely team to make the final four at 53%. Found that interesting. Gonzaga 46%, UK 40%. Unsurprisingly, Florida is the lowest percentage of the favourite in any region at 34%.
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ESPN has re-seeded the sweet 16 with KU #1. Another site was the same (not CBS apparently) but I can’t remember which.
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I thought that picture of Frank was really MC Hammer.
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Tip times are determined to put the #1 seeds in opposite time slots each night.
For Thursday, that means that the West and Midwest #1’s were always going to be opposite each other. Could they have flipped it and put Gonzaga on late? Sure, but given that the Zags play WVU, that means that WVU’s viewers would be tuning in for a game tipping at 11 pm local time. Unfortunately, because the bulk of tournament teams are in the Eastern and Central time zones, that makes working the TV schedule out pretty brutal because you don’t have enough west coast teams.
They compensate by having the West Region tipping 30 minutes later than the Midwest.
Same thing takes place on Friday. UNC plays early, and what would have been Villanova’s spot plays late. They can do that because the two marquee matchups on Friday are both in the South region, with the premier matchup being that UK-UCLA rematch. You also notice that what is thought of as the premier matchup gets the 9:39 time slot both nights.
Really, it’s a compliment to KU that they get the late CBS slot. That means it’s the best game of the night. Had Louisville beaten Michigan, they probably flip the slots to have that Oregon-Louisville game in the 9:39 spot. So really, if you want to blame anyone for this scheduling, blame Louisville.
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@justanotherfan I think there wouldn’t be any games tipping near 11 pm local time on the east coast. 10PM would be about the latest. Good information though. As some have pointed out, what a challenge to maximize viewership and appease fans.
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Trying to get the first game tipping after 7 in the Central time zone makes that near impossible. They would have to tip region 1, game 1 at 5:45 Central, followed by region 2, game 1 at 6:15 Central. That would let them tip region 1, game 2 at 8:15 and region 2, game 2 at 8:45.
But again, that makes that first game really early, especially on the west coast. The goal is to have game 1 of both regions wrapping in prime time, and the second games both tipping in prime time (hoping that people will get pulled in to watch the entire second game since its the marquee matchup of the night).
