Let the firings begin
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What is Alford’s relationship with Indiana? Didn’t they pass on him before?
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He played there under Bobby. He’s about as good as they could hope for now, and he might turn them down tbh.
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Somebody said that Indiana was on its knees, offering big money to bring back Bob Knight to resurrect the program. And that Knight was holding out for even bigger money, also the free pass to bring along Dick Vitalis as Hair Apparent.
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Marsha?
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@jayballer54 Yep, we’re gonna knock off Nova…I hope, but we got to win tonight.
@approxinfinity I assume Crean got fired?
Bobby Knight’s got to be getting pretty old I’d think?
Indiana could lure a lot of good coaches away ‘lesser’ schools. This could create a big switch up in the college game.
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Yes Crean is out at IU.
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Unless UCLA empties coffers to retain Steve Alford, he will come home to Indiana. Secondary impetus: his having to cope with Lonzo Ball’s dad thru two more sibling recruits.
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@REHawk said:
Unless UCLA empties coffers to retain Steve Alford, he will come home to Indiana. Secondary impetus: his having to cope with Lonzo Ball’s dad thru two more sibling recruits.
That’s a good one, a coach who changes jobs so his recruits DON’T follow him there !
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@ParisHawk I have never been a huge Alford fan, but man-o-man, he deserves some support in the face of the Ball family brouhaha. Gotta be many times worse than the agony laid on Bill Self’s shoulders by X Henry’s dad and brother.
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For a spell I was reimbursed a piddly coupla thousand dollars to embrace the annual coaching turmoil which I see Bill Self and many other topflight highly paid coaches endure year in and out. I hold no ill feelings about one penny of their lofty recompense. I just watched Bill on national tv facing the media onslaught re the latest Josh Jackson revelations. Brutal labors!
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Well, just came across the TV - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY- -The latest firing. - -Georgetown is parting ways with John Thompson the 3rd. - -So any possible transfers from there for us maybe? ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 I didn’t know he was on the hot seat. I know they’ve been a relative non-factor for quite a few years. That’s still viewed as a desirable job I assume. It will cause a little more than a ripple.
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@wissox I had heard something to the effect a ways back, but really hadn’t heard much, will be interesting to see what happens and who might be possible transferring out of that program. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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K ind of a side note - - heard that ol Dougie G is going to interview for the Okla St job, looked on their boards, a thread was Doug G in or out as Okla St coach?- -It was pretty top heavy for Doug to bring him on board. - - crazy move I think if they do. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Mack to Indiana scuttlebutt.
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@wissox said:
@jayballer54 I didn’t know he was on the hot seat. I know they’ve been a relative non-factor for quite a few years. That’s still viewed as a desirable job I assume. It will cause a little more than a ripple.
Not just hot seat - scorching. Students and alums have been agitating. The issue has been, of course, that he’s John Thompson’s son and the University president has always been close to the father. But 2 straight losing seasons at home eroded that legacy support - the nadir was a loss at home to last place (in the BE conference) DePaul - esp. when one of the DePaul players was quoted as saying they could tell the GU players weren’t really into the game. Losing is one thing - losing the players is another.
Rumors are Amaker or Dawkins - I guess in part because they are originally DC guys - but as a Georgetown grad school alum - I don’t find either of those to be of the slightest interest…
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And really if you don’t watch much Big East basketball it’s almost hard to fathom how bad Depaul is. Missouri probably would have beat them this year.
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@BShark They nearly beat Villanova in Philly believe it or not, but you’re right, they’re horrible.
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ISU has extended Prohm through 2022.
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LSU hired a guy from VCU. Not exactly a splashy hire. He’s only 34 years old I believe. His name is Will Wade. No matter how his teams perform he’ll realize that LSU fans care little about basketball and he’ll move on.
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I am not sure if anyone posted that Washington has new coach. The new coach Mike Hopkins will retain assistant Will Conroy and add Tim O’Toole and Jason Hart. O’Toole and Hart were assistants in the Pac-12 and both have ties to Syracuse, where Hopkins had been assistant the past 21 years.
Apparently Porter had a 3 year contract for $300K per year…so that is the going price of a top recruit. I am sure MU will match that; interesting that with his kid(s) still young and unproven, he warranted only an assistant position on the women’s team, I will guess at well under $100K. There is no question there is a blatant quid pro quo involved and the NCAA shoul be looking into…but I am sure they have their hands full checking if the next Diallo received a ham sandwich or God forbid, a new pair of sneakers.
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Okie Lite has went the cheap route and hired Mike Boynton. Oil money must be tight.
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Teams going the no-name route it looks like.
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Provided the Mack to IU thing being a done deal is accurate I think that’s a great hire for them.
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@BShark Yep, I think you’re right. Big 10 needs a competitive Indiana and Illinois and if it is true about Mack to IU, then they’ve made a really nice hire.
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That would be indeed a good hire. I understand is pretty much down top Mack and Archie Miller from Dayton. If it was Miller, I imagine they would have already announced so it makes sense that they are waiting on Mack. Steve Alford would have been the home run hire, but Mack is at least a triple…
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@DCHawker I told you all yesterday, maybe they should get Ewing! In the recruiting thread:
I wonder if Patrick Ewing would consider it to resurrect his alma mater. Has been an NBA asst for years. I could see that being a huge recruiting attraction to potential OADs. Have no idea how much of a winner as a college coach he would be, but some OADs don’t care, they just want contacts and visibility (Simmons, anyone?).
Apparently, someone is thinking about it:
What would you think of that as an alum?
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Yes, Ewing seems to be the popular pick but is it necessarily the best? He has been an assistant in the NBA for a number of years and I know he has interviewed many time for open HC positions in the past but he has yet to get a HC job. He has been away from college bball for a while now and the younger generation probably does not know him well since the last time he played in the NBA was 15 years ago and even in his glory years he was overshadowed by other more popular players and, he never won a Championship in the League. He is 54 now.
Also, and unlike other well know layers from that time that did not win titles such as Barkley, he has not had a visible media presence; Not too many people know…or care… who NBA assistants are. Yes, he is well known among Georgetown fans but I am not sure the younger prospect know who he is since many were probably not born when he last played meaningful minutes in the NBA.
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@mayjay said:
@DCHawker I told you all yesterday, maybe they should get Ewing! In the recruiting thread:
I wonder if Patrick Ewing would consider it to resurrect his alma mater. Has been an NBA asst for years. I could see that being a huge recruiting attraction to potential OADs. Have no idea how much of a winner as a college coach he would be, but some OADs don’t care, they just want contacts and visibility (Simmons, anyone?).
Apparently, someone is thinking about it:
What would you think of that as an alum?
Yes, have seen those reports - along with a few other names bandied about. I guess Ewing would be “big” hire, but more than a little risky. He has no head coaching experience and no college experience. Maybe the name alone would help interest recruits, but I’m not sure how much connection he has to 18 year olds - let alone the ability to do the grind with the kids and the families. As a GU alum (grad school), I would much prefer going after a young coach who has a demonstrated track record of (re)building a program at one of the mid-majors, or even lower. One of the names mentioned was Ed Cooley, the URI coach - which i totally don’t get. A solid coach with a team that is very competitive in the BE, but that’s it. Tommy Amaker has also been mentioned in a few reports, but the same thing - did okay with Seton Hall and Michigan and fine with Harvard, but he’s had his chances and has not delivered the kind of success the Hoyas are yearning looking for (perhaps never to be recaptured). Ewing might be a more interesting roll of the dice, but it would be a crapshoot - just hope it wouldn’t come up craps and you have another icon who is tough to move on from if necessary.
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I’m sure this has reported on here somewhere, but Okie St hired Mike Boynton. Boynton was the right hand man of Underwood.
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@KUSTEVE Yeah, I saw that. Wish that guy the best of luck.
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Indiana is going to hire Archie Miller from Dayton as their next coach.
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7 years. Not a fan of this move for them. It might work out, he isn’t a terrible coach but 7 years is a lot to lock in for and I think Mack would have been better. I wish them nothing but the best though, their fans have been pleasant to interact with from my experience.
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@BShark Mack is an Xavier alum, he’s probably a lifer there.
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Miller is by far the best of the up and coming coaches. A Home Run hire in my opinion. Would have made a great candidate when Coach Self retires.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 The quality of coaching in the Big10 has improved with Underwood and Miller.
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Lil Kim landed back in D2 at Pitt St. Now he will get to play KU.
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@BShark Is that Kim Anderson?
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Having coffee with an old coaching friend (vicious rival at one time) we got to talking about Self and how there were some on twitter saying he should be fired. (Hence how I found this place by googling just “fire bill self”).
It got brought up if KU were to fire Self. How many openings wouldnthere be right away as ADs all over the country would want to hire him? Would it make the coaching carousel spin out of control?
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Yep.
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@FarNrthJHwk we are not letting him go!
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@Crimsonorblue22 I’d hope not.
I’ve got the chance to meet a lot of coaches in the 15 years I coached HS ball. I got to meet Coach Self at a coaching clinic in 2006. Was brief but he is a great person. He shook hands with people and talked with us lonely HS coaches just to see how we were doing. Listening to him talk Xs and Os was an amazing experience.
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Ewing it is!
http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2017/04/03/georgetown-hires-patrick-ewing-as-new-head-coach/
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@mayjay That’s a big hire, pun intended.
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Interesting to see how he will do considering he has no HC experience. No question he still has a well known name among Georgetown fans but I am not sure recruits ever saw him play or really know much about him…winning will fix that in no time.
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@JayHawkFanToo Ewing has been a long time NBA assistant coach so he can give prospects a lot better insight into what it takes to get to the NBA and to make it in the NBA than most college coaches. He also won a national title at Georgetown in 1984 so he can show off that ring to recruits. He’s also spent the past 4 seasons as an assistant coach for the Charlotte Bobcats so he should have some built in ties to North Carolina and also could have some help from MJ since MJ was his boss for 4 years.
Ewing’s lack of HC experience is not going to be his biggest challenge, his biggest challenge is that Ewing has never worked in the college game so that transition will be a much bigger challenge than being a first time HC will.
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Sounds about right. The one thing he should not do is ask for advice from Michael Jordan who was a great player but a mediocre manager.
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@JayHawkFanToo I don’t mean help in running a program, I mean help with Nike recruits from the NC area, especially since Georgetown is one of the programs who specifically wears Jordan brand Nike uniforms.
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Only if UNC is not interested. Jordan is a big fan of the UNC basketball program…
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Brad Underwood has hired Orlando Antigua. Get reaaaady for some bag drops.
