Bill RE: Next Season

@BShark

Average right? He could do better.

I saw that Matt posted he was watching. Can’t imagine he wasn’t impressed watching Mason and Graham last night dominate their guards

After seeing McGusty play I think he’ll be the PG for OU going forward when Woodard is gone. More and more evidence for him to head to KU

Fingers crossed.

ALSO: Howard is going down to Florida on Friday to go check out KJ Fitzgerald some more.

JayHawkFanToo

@Crimsonorblue22

Nick Collison was at the game with the Thunders’s Coach…

BShark

Matt Scott reporting the Howard visiting KJ thing is false.

BShark

Rivals update. Preston #8, Garrett #37, Trae Young #14.

BeddieKU23

@BShark

Interesting Preston is that high, honestly I think Young is a better player overall. Nice to see Garrett get a nice bump.

BShark

@BeddieKU23

I think it’s going to create some undue hype for Preston if he ends up universally in the top 10 across the services. He can be a good player for KU (esp if he somehow stayed 2 years) but it could just as easily blow up while he and Self have a clash of wills. It’s not going to be a Josh type situation and while some KU fans will understand it the majority will not.

With Garrett he had always been a bit better than his ranking imo but I wonder if the recent bumps are due to actual scouting or just because he is signed with KU. Regardless I feel good about him as a multi-year player.

BeddieKU23

@BShark

Excellent post, couldn’t agree more.

That’s the thing with Preston, he’s talented enough to start as a freshman and go lottery in the draft because he can simply do things other guys at 6’10 can’t even dream about. But will he be a team player and take hard nosed coaching.

It makes it even more interesting that Preston chose KU to play for a guy that will push him to the max everyday. Maybe that says something about how Preston wants to be treated at the next level as opposed to being given everything. Jackson choose KU in part because he knew Self wouldn’t hand him anything, he had to earn it. Will be an interesting dynamic with Newman who I feel is a similar minded player.

Garrett is a really interesting player. The lack of AAU exposure can be a gift and curse. I think he’s a high character kid that will be one of Self’s favorite players. And his versatility to play multiple positions is going to be exciting. I hope we get 3 years out of him because the NBA will be very intrigued with his size for the PG/SG position.

BeddieKU23

@BShark

Saw some possible KU targets make the top 150.

#24 Grimes

#34 Dotson

#76 Oturu

#112 Fitzmorris

Weird class to date. KU likely only has a chance with 1 top 10 player (Langford) and he’s a longshot right now…

BeddieKU23

Chris Smith checked in at #90 on the re-classify

Kcmatt7

@BeddieKU23 If they bring home a couple of top 50 and a couple more top 100 and then another solid transfer then it’ll still be a solid class.

HawkChamp

@BeddieKU23 is that for 2017?

jayballer54

@Kcmatt7 everything I have seen on him is that TCU was leading on him - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BeddieKU23

@HawkChamp

yes

BShark

@BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

Saw some possible KU targets make the top 150.

#24 Grimes

#34 Dotson

#76 Oturu

#112 Fitzmorris

Weird class to date. KU likely only has a chance with 1 top 10 player (Langford) and he’s a longshot right now…

18 is such a weak class and KU isn’t really in a great spot for many bigs (and will need 2-3) so maybe it works out with Fitzmorris.

I’d take this class in a 2nd. I’m high on Oturu though.

@jayballer54 said:

@Kcmatt7 everything I have seen on him is that TCU was leading on him - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

If KU and UK turn up the heat he isn’t going to TCU.

HawkChamp

@BShark I agree about our class. Cunliffe helps but we need two or three more

BShark

@HawkChamp

Definitely. 2 srs, 2 open scholarships after Maxwell left, Josh leaving 100% and probably losing 2/3 of Bragg, Svi, Graham (I bet Bragg stays but saying 2/3 because I feel that is most likely even if Bragg did leave and somehow Svi stays or something). Right now two commits and an incoming transfer. Most like 4 more as we know Self likes to fill all the scholarships. Maybe he leaves one spot open though for class balance reasons. Young, Smith and a mystery/filler post recruit would be a great ending to the class. Going to be hard to get any kind of impact post recruit including a grad transfer if Bragg does stay.

BeddieKU23

@BShark

Weak is probably an understatement right now. Just as weird is the lack of interest in KU from any in the top 20. I know things are going to change because there is going to be a lot of potential roster movement over the next year. Self will likely be selling starting spots and that will be attractive to some of these kids.

I really hope Self pushes for early commits out of Grimes and either Dotson/Oturu if that is the guys he targets over the summer. I’m sure he’ll shadow Quickley, Langford, Williams. I would love for him to get David McCormack who is a guy that if he hit the Hudy weight room for a summer would become a beast. Emmitt Williams is a guy who’s intriguing but I don’t know if KU has been interested in him yet.

BShark

@BeddieKU23

Just gotta survive and bridge to 2019. I daresay I could recruit that class (but not really). A rare convergence of local talent and pretty heavy KU leans.

Sherfield, Harvey, Leech, Hurt and JRE. Then of course Jacobs is already committed. That’s an entire team. Might not have the open scholarships to pull it off but damn.

BShark

Also Sherfield is old for his class. Not sure if his academics would be in order to do it but he could in theory reclass to 2018 and he would be the best possible PG option for KU in the class if it happened.

BeddieKU23

@BShark

It would seem that we have to survive 2018.

Sherfield if he did re-classify would be a home-run. First we must find out what Young does so we know whether 2018 we even need a PG. I’d feel really confident going forward with Young/Garrett.

Grimes seems like a must have for 2018 and obviously quality bigs (wherever those may be).

I want to see us get a big center like Doke.

BShark

@BeddieKU23

2018 quality bigs: Bagley.

That’d be my 2018 list and KU isn’t in the race. Everyone else is a project to an extent. I do like Oturu long term, and Gordon long term would have been a fan favourite.

I do agree we will need a center. Hopefully Fitzmorris will develop nicely.

BeddieKU23

@BShark

Well put, Bagley is a man among kids out there. Still wonder if he will even go to College.

I need to see Oturu more but was his/or the staff’s interest tied to Hurt?

I still think McCormack & Emmitt Williams are others the staff should be on.

BShark

@BeddieKU23

He was offered about a week after Gordon popped for SLU. I think it was a situation where the staff wanted to start exploring other options after a perceived KU lean spurned them.

I agree. McCormack isn’t the type of center Self usually goes after (he’s fat).

BeddieKU23

New name on the radar. No offer but “interest” apparently

De’Quon Lake 6’10 (2017) Juco of Iowa Western CC had 38 and 13 in his last game. Arizona St and Old Dominion have offered. Interest from West Virginia, Creighton, Oregon St and KU.

Kcmatt7

@BeddieKU23 Would he be a 2 or 3 year guy?

BShark

@BeddieKU23

Oh boy a Juco. Let me list off all the jucos that made an impact under Self: .

I was trying to find old HS recruiting profiles and couldn’t.

@Kcmatt7 said:

@BeddieKU23 Would he be a 2 or 3 year guy?

BShark

Stats

http://www.iccacstats.org/sports/mbkb/2016-17/players/dequonlake271c?view=gamelog&pos=sh

BShark

Kcmatt7

@BShark If it’s only 2 I’m not interested… Although we will need a guy for some depth 2 years from now. At this point we would only have Lightfoot as a guarantee on the roster. I’d feel better about taking a grad transfer to fill a gap if we needed to find a stop gap.