Bill RE: Next Season
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@BeddieKU23 said:
2018 kid if I remember correctly right? That is Elliott
2017 originally. Planning to do a prep year but I would bet if KU wants him in the fold now he would go back to 2017.
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Interesting, can’t say I like him more then Smith or Fitzgerald at this point. Then again Smith is the only one out there with an offer so this visit could be nothing or the start of something
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Probably still have to fill two scholarships in addition to Trae (if we land Trae).
I hope we get Smith for sure. Lots of potential.
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We land Smith and Trae, great class if all the pieces get to campus. Just getting Trae is hitting the lottery in my opinion. I admit I’m higher on Trae then some might be, I just expect him to be a really good player at KU if he does sign here. I don’t think we’ve seen Self invest as much time into one player as he has with this one. It helps that he’s close enough to get too on off-game days but when a whole staff follows one player for over a year it means something.
I expect we will try and sign close to the max scholarships this year if we lose what is expected after this year. Can’t see us going into next year with 10 players like we did this year. Some seasons it can work like 2012, this season may be another example if no other injuries pop up.
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Trae could be Steph good in time. Jmo.
And I agree any good finish to this class starts with landing Trae.
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Agree with the Steph comparison. His shooting is unreal at this stage. He doesn’t have the ideal size or athletic ability but I think he makes up for it with his shooting and basketball IQ. Has a chance to be one of the best College Players in time. Hudy might be the most important person in his life going forward. Can see her doing wonders with him
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@JayHawkFanToo Diallo came out and said he plans to redshirt the rest of this season and then play next year.
He isn’t draft ready. He would be a borderline 1st round pick and could fall to the 2nd in a deep draft class.
Diallo can’t shoot. NBA wants to see him shoot before they just take him. Plus next year is a weaker class. He would do better to wait one more year and show he can shoot at least 30% from 3 at UK.
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@BShark Yea I don’t know how him reclassifying factors into all of this. But UK is losing a ton. There will be minutes to be had for them next season. If Briscoe leaves (and I think he does) then they only have 3 perimeter players for next season. So a reach like this for next seasons class would seam to be a last resort move by Cal.
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This is what I thought thanks for confirming.
And yep, def needs to work on his shot. He will def be better served by being with college coaches to work on that compared to HS.
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@Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Yea I don’t know how him reclassifying factors into all of this. But UK is losing a ton. There will be minutes to be had for them next season. If Briscoe leaves (and I think he does) then they only have 3 perimeter players for next season. So a reach like this for next seasons class would seam to be a last resort move by Cal.
It’s crazy the amount of studs Cal has signed up but he is still struggling to complete a guard rotation. They might have to play really big with Vanderbilt as a wing. If UK suddenly offers soon I think they have to be considered the favourite.
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Anyone hear anything on Andre Rafus? He just named us in his final 3 on his twitter a couple days ago. He has an offer. I just don’t know if he has a conditional one or what.
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Might not qualify, has basketball skill problems. I hope Self isn’t in a position where he offers. I believe he claims a KU offer that he does not have.
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@BShark Idk. Verbal commits website shows an offer… Usually is right.
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Going off of what I’ve read from people that know a lot more than me (mainly Matt Scott and Ryan Noel/Bham).
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@BShark The more I watch the more it wouldn’t be a horrible get. He has a decent stroke and is really long. He could be a force on defense in a couple of years.
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Okay long term college player if he qualifies, Chris Smith is a lot better if KU can get him.
Fwiw CB trending back to 100% TCU.
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@BShark Yea I mean you are probably right that it is more the player recruiting KU than KU recruiting the player.
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Now, this is interesting…
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@JayHawkFanToo What’s interesting?
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Diallo’s plans. Not at all what had been reported; most stories I read dealt with the effects on team chemistry having a player join the team well into the season and with the intent of playing just a short time.
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@JayHawkFanToo Oh yea forgot we posted about that!
I think it was a very wise decision for him. And for UK.
He very well could go pro in 4 months if he goes off at the combine and really just proves he can shoot the ball. Very similar to us being scared Newman will leave before next season. Except I think Diallo has a much better chance at that than Newman does. I honestly think Cal wanted to bring in a practice body. It would be good for the team. And if Diallo “fixes” his shot in 4 months Cal can use it as a recruiting tool.
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Saw that Trae Young is averaging 41.4 points in his last 5 High School games. Absurd
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@BShark and…
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What?
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@BShark how do you know and did he have a reaction?
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Average right? He could do better.
I saw that Matt posted he was watching. Can’t imagine he wasn’t impressed watching Mason and Graham last night dominate their guards
After seeing McGusty play I think he’ll be the PG for OU going forward when Woodard is gone. More and more evidence for him to head to KU
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Twitter, Young mentioned it and retweeted some stuff.
@BeddieKU23 said:
Average right? He could do better.
I saw that Matt posted he was watching. Can’t imagine he wasn’t impressed watching Mason and Graham last night dominate their guards
After seeing McGusty play I think he’ll be the PG for OU going forward when Woodard is gone. More and more evidence for him to head to KU
Fingers crossed.
ALSO: Howard is going down to Florida on Friday to go check out KJ Fitzgerald some more.
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Nick Collison was at the game with the Thunders’s Coach…
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Matt Scott reporting the Howard visiting KJ thing is false.
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Rivals update. Preston #8, Garrett #37, Trae Young #14.
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Interesting Preston is that high, honestly I think Young is a better player overall. Nice to see Garrett get a nice bump.
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I think it’s going to create some undue hype for Preston if he ends up universally in the top 10 across the services. He can be a good player for KU (esp if he somehow stayed 2 years) but it could just as easily blow up while he and Self have a clash of wills. It’s not going to be a Josh type situation and while some KU fans will understand it the majority will not.
With Garrett he had always been a bit better than his ranking imo but I wonder if the recent bumps are due to actual scouting or just because he is signed with KU. Regardless I feel good about him as a multi-year player.
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Excellent post, couldn’t agree more.
That’s the thing with Preston, he’s talented enough to start as a freshman and go lottery in the draft because he can simply do things other guys at 6’10 can’t even dream about. But will he be a team player and take hard nosed coaching.
It makes it even more interesting that Preston chose KU to play for a guy that will push him to the max everyday. Maybe that says something about how Preston wants to be treated at the next level as opposed to being given everything. Jackson choose KU in part because he knew Self wouldn’t hand him anything, he had to earn it. Will be an interesting dynamic with Newman who I feel is a similar minded player.
Garrett is a really interesting player. The lack of AAU exposure can be a gift and curse. I think he’s a high character kid that will be one of Self’s favorite players. And his versatility to play multiple positions is going to be exciting. I hope we get 3 years out of him because the NBA will be very intrigued with his size for the PG/SG position.
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Saw some possible KU targets make the top 150.
#24 Grimes
#34 Dotson
#76 Oturu
#112 Fitzmorris
Weird class to date. KU likely only has a chance with 1 top 10 player (Langford) and he’s a longshot right now…
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Chris Smith checked in at #90 on the re-classify
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@BeddieKU23 If they bring home a couple of top 50 and a couple more top 100 and then another solid transfer then it’ll still be a solid class.
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@BeddieKU23 is that for 2017?
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@Kcmatt7 everything I have seen on him is that TCU was leading on him - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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yes
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@BeddieKU23 said:
Saw some possible KU targets make the top 150.
#24 Grimes
#34 Dotson
#76 Oturu
#112 Fitzmorris
Weird class to date. KU likely only has a chance with 1 top 10 player (Langford) and he’s a longshot right now…
18 is such a weak class and KU isn’t really in a great spot for many bigs (and will need 2-3) so maybe it works out with Fitzmorris.
I’d take this class in a 2nd. I’m high on Oturu though.
@jayballer54 said:
@Kcmatt7 everything I have seen on him is that TCU was leading on him - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
If KU and UK turn up the heat he isn’t going to TCU.
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@BShark I agree about our class. Cunliffe helps but we need two or three more
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Definitely. 2 srs, 2 open scholarships after Maxwell left, Josh leaving 100% and probably losing 2/3 of Bragg, Svi, Graham (I bet Bragg stays but saying 2/3 because I feel that is most likely even if Bragg did leave and somehow Svi stays or something). Right now two commits and an incoming transfer. Most like 4 more as we know Self likes to fill all the scholarships. Maybe he leaves one spot open though for class balance reasons. Young, Smith and a mystery/filler post recruit would be a great ending to the class. Going to be hard to get any kind of impact post recruit including a grad transfer if Bragg does stay.
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Weak is probably an understatement right now. Just as weird is the lack of interest in KU from any in the top 20. I know things are going to change because there is going to be a lot of potential roster movement over the next year. Self will likely be selling starting spots and that will be attractive to some of these kids.
I really hope Self pushes for early commits out of Grimes and either Dotson/Oturu if that is the guys he targets over the summer. I’m sure he’ll shadow Quickley, Langford, Williams. I would love for him to get David McCormack who is a guy that if he hit the Hudy weight room for a summer would become a beast. Emmitt Williams is a guy who’s intriguing but I don’t know if KU has been interested in him yet.
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Just gotta survive and bridge to 2019. I daresay I could recruit that class (but not really). A rare convergence of local talent and pretty heavy KU leans.
Sherfield, Harvey, Leech, Hurt and JRE. Then of course Jacobs is already committed. That’s an entire team. Might not have the open scholarships to pull it off but damn.
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Also Sherfield is old for his class. Not sure if his academics would be in order to do it but he could in theory reclass to 2018 and he would be the best possible PG option for KU in the class if it happened.
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It would seem that we have to survive 2018.
Sherfield if he did re-classify would be a home-run. First we must find out what Young does so we know whether 2018 we even need a PG. I’d feel really confident going forward with Young/Garrett.
Grimes seems like a must have for 2018 and obviously quality bigs (wherever those may be).
I want to see us get a big center like Doke.
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2018 quality bigs: Bagley.
That’d be my 2018 list and KU isn’t in the race. Everyone else is a project to an extent. I do like Oturu long term, and Gordon long term would have been a fan favourite.
I do agree we will need a center. Hopefully Fitzmorris will develop nicely.
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Well put, Bagley is a man among kids out there. Still wonder if he will even go to College.
I need to see Oturu more but was his/or the staff’s interest tied to Hurt?
I still think McCormack & Emmitt Williams are others the staff should be on.
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He was offered about a week after Gordon popped for SLU. I think it was a situation where the staff wanted to start exploring other options after a perceived KU lean spurned them.
I agree. McCormack isn’t the type of center Self usually goes after (he’s fat).
