Furphy
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@nuleafjhawk said in Furphy:
@jayballer67 “think he might have been a decent player for us in a couple of years”
It won’t be long before no one knows what that means. What’s a couple of years? Nobody would EVER stay around that long.
McDowell
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@jayballer67 I just meant that nobody is going to be around long enough to develop. A whole damn country of one and done’s. Some guys will have attended more colleges than I have changed underwear in a decade.
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Read a couple of articles today saying Furphy may drop to early 2nd round and McCullar to late first. Furphy dropped because of his late season woes and McCullar due to injury.
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Maybe NLI can get Furphy big bucks when KU plays out of the country! HA!
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I haven’t heard even one of y’all “fans” offer to marry Furphy so he can get his green card and and be paid
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@nuleafjhawk said in Furphy:
@jayballer67 I just meant that nobody is going to be around long enough to develop. A whole damn country of one and done’s. Some guys will have attended more colleges than I have changed underwear in a decade.
geez , thanks for sharing that lil tidbit lol
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@BeddieKU23 said in Furphy:
He’s here on a student visa where US law prevents him from making $ from NIL unless he was to travel abroad etc. I don’t recall that he was even a first round pick last year but I could be wrong. He may go in the lottery this year so if both are true, I’d say he improved his stock a lot by coming back.
I should have explained the point I was trying to make. As it stands with International Players here on student visa’s, they cannot earn NIL the same way as others. While Furphy was a great last-minute addition to the team, I think its safe to assume if he could earn NIL like everyone else a 2nd year at KU would be likely. The risk KU and others take on International Players and trying to retain them year over year
Eh - I doubt this is the difference maker. Maybe its the excuse we are given but it may just be he wants to go. It hasnt been that long since the OG recruiting days, right? All those alleged backchannels cant be completely closed yet. There has to be a workaround where he could (legally of course) be compensated. I hear the Cayman Islands have some good banks…
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I haven’t heard even one of y’all “fans” offer to marry Furphy so he can get his green card and and be paid
Excellent idea! There are some big bucks waiting. I’m already married though…
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Hope he comes back to finish developing, but if not it’s next man up.
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The Ringer projects Furph as the 34th pick, noting basically the same strengths and weaknesses we experienced this season. Hopefully, he comes back to get stronger and address deficiencies. I like him, especially how hard he plays.
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@Jayblaze I might have married Dick ( rude comment goes here_________________) but never Furphy. That hairdo…
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So furphy is going to play for Australia in the Olympics this summer, does this mean we can find a way to pay him?
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For what it’s worth KU is recruiting the portal like Furphy is leaving. He just announced he hired an agent. Writing on the wall here.
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@BeddieKU23 but he can still return.
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Yes, sounds like he might go through the draft process before a final decision.
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Have the rules changed? It used to be when you hired an agent, you had to stay in the draft.
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@Gorilla72 said in Furphy:
Have the rules changed? It used to be when you hired an agent, you had to stay in the draft.
You can hire a approved agent and still return to school.
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@Woodrow - Thanks. I just looked it up too. Getting lazy.
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He just put a post about it out on his Instagram
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This post is deleted!
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So Furph declared for the draft while maintaining his college eligibility. Said some very nice things about KU. I can’t link via the apps.
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Go be great, kid
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He won’t be back, unless something very unforeseen happens.
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ya figured this would probably be the case.-- I’m not mad at him , give them hell , hope the best. Enjoyed him while he was here. - Can’t blame him for trying to make money.
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We hardly knew ye, Johnny…
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Johnny-come-lately
The new kid in town
Will we still love you
When you’re not around?
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@approxinfinity I’m looking forward to checking out the new New Kid in Town
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So, what’s your name? What was your name? I can’t remember something so lame 'Cause I don’t care Yeah, I don’t care That a break up left you in despair
I Forgot That You Exist Song by YonKaGor
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@approxinfinity I get it, I was hoping to see him develop another year here. I really like him, so much potential.
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Disappointing that we won’t get another season from Johnny. What a steal he ended up being so late in the cycle when things went south with dipshit. Good luck Johnny, hopefully you’ll do big things
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Well… none of us are OADs! lol
The safest quality recruits to take hoping they put in years at KU… short point guards that can offer consistent play for years… and big post players who can dominate D1 but don’t translate to the NBA. I think Hunter will be back, and Juan is coming back.
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It’s a business now. I don’t know why they don’t completely eliminate the ncaa and make the new hires sign binding one year contracts pay a signing bonus and be on to the rest of team assembly and coaching. Recruiting and re-recruiting the same commit several times per year is exhausting. I hope it doesn’t drive Bill into retirement.
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It’s a business now. I don’t know why they don’t completely eliminate the ncaa and make the new hires sign binding one year contracts pay a signing bonus and be on to the rest of team assembly and coaching. Recruiting and re-recruiting the same commit several times per year is exhausting. I hope it doesn’t drive Bill into retirement.
You know I think now I might be wrong have been many , many times before BUT I think if I remember correctly Ja y Wright walked away from Coaching as he didn’t want to deal with this NIL crap and the portal.
You just never know these days , you know Bill one day may just say screw this.—I know well have heard and can believe very easily how tiring this whole recruiting thing can be. Like you said recruiting a kid and then re- -recruiting -could really wear on a guy. You put that with having to know all the in and out’s of NCAA recruiting rules - -the NIL- -& Portal can drain the best of them. - -One of the reasons these University’s have to have X amount of lawyers just for the Recruiting and such. Never say Never to Coach one day coming in and just throw up his hands in frustration and just say screw this–and follow what Wright did.
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@BeddieKU23 It really is incredible that we picked this guy up in the middle of the summer and he’s probably going to become a top 20 draft pick
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With him not being able to get the NIL money, can’t really blame the kid. It stinks for both him and us because I firmly believe he’s a top 5 pick next season if he stays. I hope it works out but so many good players end up in the G league and then over seas. I’ve always said this a bout the NBA-They will draft you off of potential, but give you little to no time to develop that potential. The G league has made vast improvements the last few years so hopefully that helps. If he has a good combine, he could sneak into the first round which would be huge. Crazy to think about a kid averaging single digits across the board being a OAD honestly.
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Sometimes I think it’d be ok if the top talents from McDonalds and High Schools had a semi-pro league and skipped college altogether. Then we’d preserve college sports with more traditional scholarship student-athletes. Like there would still be plenty of talent to make the games high-level and exciting. It also seems just - to give top-caliber athletes a route other than college to get paid what they deserve while they pursue the NBA without distorting the fairness of our leagues. I’d still be a Jayhawk fan, to be sure, and I don’t think my enthusiasm/enjoyment would lose a step like it might as this new status quo evolves.
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@Jayblaze I think we have moved in the opposite direction with NBA folding the G League ignite team this year. NIL is where its at, for now.
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Sometimes I think it’d be ok if the top talents from McDonalds and High Schools had a semi-pro league and skipped college altogether. Then we’d preserve college sports with more traditional scholarship student-athletes. Like there would still be plenty of talent to make the games high-level and exciting. It also seems just - to give top-caliber athletes a route other than college to get paid what they deserve while they pursue the NBA without distorting the fairness of our leagues. I’d still be a Jayhawk fan, to be sure, and I don’t think my enthusiasm/enjoyment would lose a step like it might as this new status quo evolves.
They did. That’s what Overtime Elite was. That was the purpose of the G-League Ignite team. Those entities were specifically created to provide a place for top HS talent to go and get paid before NIL was widespread. NIL forced Overtime Elite to close up shop and is the reason why Ignite is folding after this season.
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@Jayblaze Best idea I’ve heard in a while. It beats my idea of shutting down college basketball altogether and just sending them right from high school or jail into the NBA. Although, I firmly believe that NIL and the portal (to hell) are going to do just that.
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@approxinfinity Maybe the hockey model will become a thing in basketball too. No reason not to under the current rules.
ie NBA team drafts a hs player and designated him to a certain college team or set of teams at his choice for development… ahem I mean allow the student athlete to pick a school to develop for 2 years (not the 3 hockey requires) before becoming league eligible. The nba team would have a more developed prospect under contract and the full term intact once the player is called up.
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@dylans yeah i expect something along those lines is already where we are shifting. Which is why I am incredibly excited about our ability to get top shelf talent going forward. I think Bill Selfs finishing school will be in high demand for NBA teams.
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Read an article in the star, Furphy’s dad said Johnny hasn’t made up his mind. He’s kept in touch w/coach and there’s a place saved for him. The workouts have helped him.
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lol
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Do we think Bill is able to add 3 wings in the portal if Furphy comes back? Writing is on the wall.
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I’m guessing if Furphy somehow, miraculously, comes back Riley Kugel will conveniently turn out to be academically ineligible.
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@BShark just relaying the article
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@Crimsonorblue22 Not a fan of the article, though I probably shouldn’t say much more. Don’t want to be too mean.
If he comes back, it’d be a miracle.
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@BShark have u read it? U think it’s mean to give Coach some false hope? Or putting him in a bad place if he came back?
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@Crimsonorblue22 I think Bill knows what is happening.
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@BShark so r u mad his dad sounded like there’s a chance and there’s not?
