2023 Transfer Portal
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Did you enjoy the previous rules that made them sit a year in only 2 sports? Do you just miss the old ways?
This is the era where players have leverage over their own futures. I think we saw enough decades of coaches and the NCAA controlling things with too much power if you ask me.
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Approaching 700 in, will pass it today
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Approaching 700 in, will pass it today
4 more coming from KU alone I bet.
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I won’t be upset about it
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
I won’t be upset about it
Lots of non-contributors this year.
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Wishing the best for any of our departures. Team chemistry was excellent this year. Lots of drama across college bball; not our guys. Super fun, classy team to root for. Always Jayhawks in my book, every one.
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@approxinfinity said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Wishing the best for any of our departures. Team chemistry was excellent this year. Lots of drama across college bball; not our guys. Super fun, classy team to root for. Always Jayhawks in my book, every one.
Ehhhhhhhhh ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Nothing gets out with Self. I won’t bad mouth on the way out but I’ll just say some things should be obvious wrt MJ Rice.
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@BShark d1 ball punched him in the mouth and he didn’t get up and punch back
Cuffe, Clemence, mj, one of Joe or Bobby
We gonna lose that 1 scholarship and still have room for 2 solid transfers with Marcus Adams reclassifying to 2023 otherwise we’d had room for 3 (someone confirm my math)
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@kuballin10 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark d1 ball punched him in the mouth and he didn’t get up and punch back
Cuffe, Clemence, mj, one of Joe or Bobby
We gonna lose that 1 scholarship and still have room for 2 solid transfers with Marcus Adams reclassifying to 2023 otherwise we’d had room for 3 (someone confirm my math)
If we have 5 out we can take 3 in.
Juan/KJ/Zuby/Udeh/one of Bob or Joe/4 FR is 9.
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@BShark that lineup makes me feel ill. Thank god for Bill Self, no one is winning with that group that isn’t destined for the hall of fame.
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@dylans said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark that lineup makes me feel ill. Thank god for Bill Self, no one is winning with that group that isn’t destined for the hall of fame.
Very incomplete line-up. That wasn’t really in any order either.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Did you enjoy the previous rules that made them sit a year in only 2 sports? Do you just miss the old ways?
This is the era where players have leverage over their own futures. I think we saw enough decades of coaches and the NCAA controlling things with too much power if you ask me.
Yeah I miss the rule where they had to sit. Made them really consider their decisions wisely before committing. It’s life. How many times are you going to get hired if you keep switching jobs? Not too many I’d guess because you’re going to get asked why have you worked two other jobs in the last 2 years?
I see ‘once a Jayhawk always a Jayhawk’ comments and I disagree. When you quit on our team, while I wouldn’t stop them, I’m not going to remember you as a Jayhawk nearly as much as a guy who gave blood sweat and tears towards the success of the program.
So go ahead and enjoy the revolving door of college sports. Not me.
I would be for a system that gives players leverage but also allows teams that invest large amounts of money in a kid to make it worth their time to do so as well.
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@BShark even better bring in 3 studs and let’s go win another title
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@wissox this was Bill’s opposition as a guy like Russell Robinson never happens because he transfers yet he’d say sticking it out ended up being best for him.
That story doesn’t exist but I do ride the line that if coaches can move right away players should have the same power
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I suppose we’ll disagree here some then, that’s okay, it’s a message board and we all have our thoughts. I respect yours so I was interested in why this new era isn’t your cup of tea. Understand where you’re coming from now.
I wouldn’t say I enjoy this revolving door, I think it’s kind of exciting for KU fans since I think we’ll always be in a position to change the roster in a way that keeps us at the top competitively. We’re doing good in NIL, we have a great program with a great coach and it’s a place kids want to be.
I think the sit-out year was an abuse of power that was begging for change in the 2 popular money-making sports.
If you’re looking for someone to blame, or where it may have started, blame the coaches that created commitment issues. This is a business glorified as something else. Coaches switch jobs for money, position, you name it and leave the kids they supposedly cared an awful lot about in the wind.
Not all Jayhawks are equal, agree there. I wouldn’t consider Grimes a lifer or Bryce Thompson. But Kevin McCullar who traded teams in his own conference is a certified star in my mind for the rest of my life. Perhaps its where they end for me that matters most. The one’s that stick 4/5 years are legends which is becoming increasingly rare.
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@BeddieKU23 Yeah, I’m not mad, just disagreeing with you. You’re contributions to this message board are A+
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Same, enjoy your contributions here!
Now if we ever lose important player(s) for whatever reason to the portal I’m sure I’ll feel a certain way towards it.
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@wissox I’d propose an NCAA rule change regarding NIL moneys - create a NIL “salary” cap that increases for each year in school as well as for each year that a player is at the same institution. Might help with competitive balance and would incentivize loyalty.
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I became a fan of KU bball in Selfs first year. That was the year my wife and I started dating again. So i would say i am as much a Bill Self fan as I am a KU fan. I didnt like Roy until 2008 when he wore a Kansas pin after losing to us.
Anyway, I guess Im saying that i see everything Kansas mostly from Selfs perspective, certainly almost entirely from the perspectives of the staff + the players, and thats probably why i really like the rule changes.
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It felt incongruous to be a decent honest person and a fierce competitor as a coach before the rule changes.
But thats what Self is.
Now he can be who he is. Moreso anyway.
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@approxinfinity said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
I became a fan of KU bball in Selfs first year. That was the year my wife and I started dating again. So i would say i am as much a Bill Self fan as I am a KU fan. I didnt like Roy until 2008 when he wore a Kansas pin after losing to us.
Anyway, I guess Im saying that i see everything Kansas mostly from Selfs perspective, certainly almost entirely from the perspective of the staff + the players, and thats probably why i really like the rule changes.
Welcome to the club, newbie!
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Question ?- -You think we have or should we have any feelers inquiries out for Graham Ike Forward from Wyoming ? - - - -Ike has entered the portal - -ESPN saying he will be one of the most coveted in the portal 6" 9 - Averaged 19 .5 PPg & the part I like 9 .5 rebounds. - You think we will send out some feelers se if any interest ? - It I think would at least be worth a shot. - We need people who can clean the glass
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Anyone looking for us to add a big will likely be disappointed.
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Anyone looking for us to add a big will likely be disappointed.
simply just asking. So we don’t have to worry about our rebounding problems then. Gotcha
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@BShark They clearly needed one this year. I don’t think it is nearly as much of a need next year.
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@Kcmatt7 Feel really good about udeh and zuby manning the paint next year. They both have some skill and athleticism. The understanding and acclimation to the level of play were the main issues for them this year. Those are going to be better next year for sure.
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark They clearly needed one this year. I don’t think it is nearly as much of a need next year.
Literally anyone instead of Cam would have been nice. Would have been a tough sell but they did try (Nance).
Next year the young guys should be a lot more ready.
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@Kcmatt7 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark They clearly needed one this year. I don’t think it is nearly as much of a need next year.
Literally anyone instead of Cam would have been nice. Would have been a tough sell but they did try (Nance).
Next year the young guys should be a lot more ready.
Possibly I mis understood you when you said anyone thinking about us and Big’s would be disappointed. -Are you talking at the 5 ? - If that’s what you were talking then I agree - -BUT at the 4 which I also consider Big’s & we for sure could use help there. Some suggesting Kevin at the 4 - -he has showed no signs of being capable of playing a legit 4. You got to have some kind of outside J and do a better job on the glass.
Udeh & Zuby has our 5 spot covered next year , BUT we could use a legit 4 man. - That’s where I thought Graham Ike could help - - especially when we are looking at a team that quite possibly may have trouble scoring the ball on a consistent basis.- -You would think Coach would at least reach out if nothing else to see if there was any interest , I mean your talking about a guy that was averaging right at a double, double avg - -19.5 ppg & 9.5 rpg -how could you not at least test the waters with a guy like that ?
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@jayballer67 We play guard type guys skill wise at the 4 now. I do believe we will grab a starting 4.
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@jayballer67 We play guard type guys skill wise at the 4 now. I do believe we will grab a starting 4.
I understand buddy - it’s just that we have got to do better on the boards. Perfect example was the Arkansas games , giving up to many multiple chance 2nd , 3rd and even 4 cracks off the offensive boards. I dunno something needs to be done with a big in that area some how -Thought this guy could be the answer
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6’9 Iona big Nelly Junior Joseph in the portal. Averaged 14.9 ppg & 9.3 boards a game
Wyoming 6’9 big Graham Ike . Missed all of this year with leg injury, averaged 19.5ppg and 9.6 boards in 21-22.
Dayton’s Mustapha Amzil 6’9 in the portal. Averaged 9.3 ppg and 4.8 boards on 36% shooting from 3. Believe he’s the one that made the game winner against us in 21-22.
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Rebounding may still be an issue for KU with KJ and Udeh primarily manning the 5 spot. Neither one are great rebounders. Everyone here should know by now that’s been my biggest criticism of KJ since last year. His defensive rebounding slightly improved, but it was still sub 10% this season. That’s something that he’ll never be good at because he just doesn’t have the build to be a good rebounder.
Udeh wasn’t much better than KJ last season with only a 13.2% defensive rebounding rate and 12.1% overall. Udeh’s defensive rebounding rate was lower than Gradey Dick’s which isn’t good for someone Udeh’s size. That is definitely something that he needs to work on because Udeh is too damn big to be that bad of a rebounder.
If Zuby however could crack the rotation for good minutes last year, he had near elite rebounding numbers last season. We also know the potential is there because Zuby was ahead of Udeh in the rotation before he got hurt. Ejiofor’s defensive rebounding rate last season in his limited minutes was 24% and his total rebounding rate was 19% last season. Those numbers aren’t too far behind what Oscar Tshiebwe did this season.
Bottom line is Zuby is the answer to KU’s rebounding issues at the 5 spot, but the question is will KU’s rotation have a spot for Zuby next season. The only way that realistically happens is if KJ develops enough range to justify playing him at the 4 next season.
If it’s primarily KJ and Udeh at the spot with a transfer at 4 spot, then KU may still struggle with giving up offensive rebounds next season.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
6’9 Iona big Nelly Junior Joseph in the portal. Averaged 14.9 ppg & 9.3 boards a game
Wyoming 6’9 big Graham Ike . Missed all of this year with leg injury, averaged 19.5ppg and 9.6 boards in 21-22.
Dayton’s Mustapha Amzil 6’9 in the portal. Averaged 9.3 ppg and 4.8 boards on 36% shooting from 3. Believe he’s the one that made the game winner against us in 21-22.
Ya Graham was the one I postd about earlier , thoguht they ought to at least send out some feelers. - -He has 2 yrs of eligibility left because of his injury
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Yep rebounding will be one of the main issues again.
Udeh was so wild he would jump to block for a shot 5 feet over his head and take himself out of the play. He reminds me so much of Dave in his early years with his lack of awareness on when to offer weakside help for rim protection. He has the rebounding ability in him as we saw flashes when he really focused. We absolutely need his maturity level as much as anything to improve this offseason. He seems like a great kid with a great attitude.
Agree Zuby seems like a good rebounder. This a big offseason for him to get stronger as the Mitchell kid gave him issue in the Arkansas Game. He definitely has the rebounding instincts we need.
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Portal to hit over 800 today
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What’s the website that ranks all of the guys in the portal? I thought I had it book marked.
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247 sports
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Season/2023-Basketball/TransferPortalTop/
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Eddie Waaaaampkin to Georgetown
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Kario Oquendo of Georgia in the portal, big time athlete at 6’4
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What are your top choices from current portal list, just curious.
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@AsadZ I think a lot of the guys we want / are targeting are not in the portal yet. There are some decent guys in there , but there will be a huge influx of talent over the next 2-3 weeks.
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@Woodrow said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@AsadZ I think a lot of the guys we want / are targeting are not in the portal yet.
Correct.
Still believe one guy not in the portal is a done deal and would have a hard time believing we find three better guys but you never truly can say for sure until guys announce.
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@AsadZ said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
What are your top choices from current portal list, just curious.
Based on current need, Jaemyn Brakefield from Ole Miss. KU recruited him in HS, spent a year at Duke and then the last 2 at Ole Miss so he’s played good competition, has improved year over year & has been apart of Power 5 programs previously. His shooting numbers suggest he could take on a bigger role (53% FG overall, 65% on 2’s, 35% on 3’s, 73% ft). He’s 6’8 and fits one of the Gradey/J Will/Kev spots we need to fill.
There are some mid-major guards that are intriguing but wouldn’t fill a current need or current preference of the staff. If there is enough roster movement, I can see a veteran scoring guard being a target potentially but right now that’s just my own thoughts.
I think we’ll see KU players announce their intentions, then a break for the staff to really evaluate and see what potentially shakes out after the next wave. Right after the Championship game could be when things start to pick up. Guys making NBA draft decisions/entering the portal would be guys I’d be interested in looking at closer.
There’s a lot of unofficial chatter about a pair of players on a certain team that likely could be entering and be serious targets for KU. They would both fills needs but are not star players at this stage. I’m not sure there’s going to be the kind of guys in the portal at the positions we need that are comparable to Gradey/J Will/Kev. I think I’ll have to adjust my expectations there.
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Rumor is Bobby Pettiford will be entering the portal soon. We’ll see if that happens today or not.
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@Woodrow said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@AsadZ I think a lot of the guys we want / are targeting are not in the portal yet.
Correct.
Still believe one guy not in the portal is a done deal and would have a hard time believing we find three better guys but you never truly can say for sure until guys announce.
Who?
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Puff Johnson of UNC in, 4th Tarheel in and likely not the last
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Puff Johnson of UNC in
Wasn’t he the defensive specialist from them who came in and lit us up for a bit during the title game?
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Yep had 11 against us. Effort is there with him although he didn’t generally play a lot (avg 15mpg).
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Puff Johnson of UNC in, 4th Tarheel in and likely not the last
JUMPIN gee hossie Toads, my friend. Who are the others from NC ? - anybody of importance or just seat warmers?
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@jayballer67 just filler
