K-St Game Thread
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@Kcmatt7 said in K-St Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in K-St Game Thread:
@Kcmatt7 said in K-St Game Thread:
One thing is certain: We need more from Kevin going forward if we’re winning the conference.
This and Juan scoring is the key. Everything else can be fixed but these two not looking to score we become very beatable by anyone
Juan looked to score tonight in a way. He took 6 threes…. He just can’t turn the ball over in crunch time 3 times like he did tonight.
He had a bad night for sure. But I think he makes good plays to end games more often than he doesn’t.
I’m am going to give him the benefit of the doubt- he fell right on his head, and had to be taken to the locker room.
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I personally think it is time to revisit the Udeh experiment…
Zuby and Zach ain’t it so far.
Also I think Bill needs to let MJ get some run. We do need more from the bench…
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@kuballin10 there won’t be a *but Remy when Juan goes to the rafters. Well maybe in your mind but that’s your business.
We’ll move on, be better going forward. The only team that’ll beat us for the chip is us
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@Jethro I mean even without that he is entitled to they occasional off night. Everyone has them…
He had made 8 consecutive three balls before this. I’m not “down” on him or anything. He’ll bounce back.
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J Will was mad man tonight. That could be exactly what we needed
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Thought all the iowa state fans had their shirts off then realized it was a white out.
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@approxinfinity said in K-St Game Thread:
Thought all the iowa state fans had their shirts off then realized it was a white out.
i forgot that was on…thanks!
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@FarmerJayhawk said in K-St Game Thread:
@kuballin10 I love how all the criticism of Juan is “well this ALMOST happened.” He’s brought us back FAR more often than choked but that’s not important I guess.
We weren’t great tonight, ish happens. Onto the next one.
Don’t even bother trying to exchange with him - he just here to argue with anybody and everybody
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@cragarhawk said in K-St Game Thread:
J Will was mad man tonight. That could be exactly what we needed
Nice to see he has that in him for sure. I think we’ll need it in March
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I had this all queued up and ready to post, guess i jinxed it:
Signed, sealed, delivered.
Ballgame boys and girls!
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It’s been disappointing that MJ can’t get more run. Practices must be a wreck.
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next game is even tougher- TCU.
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@Kcmatt7 said in K-St Game Thread:
I personally think it is time to revisit the Udeh experiment…
Zuby and Zach ain’t it so far.
Also I think Bill needs to let MJ get some run. We do need more from the bench…
I agree with you on bench. Not sure what’s up with Bill & MJ - - I just think MJ is gone after this year , to bad cause the guy knows how to score the ball. Something the rest of our bench doesn’t know
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@Jethro said in K-St Game Thread:
next game is even tougher- TCU.
we got them in the Phog buddy - — look out
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Every KU player could have done something a tiny bit better and we would have won this, so I’m going to chuck it up to a solid finish by KSate when historically they’ve folded. Credit where it’s due.
Lots of games to go… KU still has the hardest road because we get everyone’s best shot. We’ll see how Kstate does with some ranked pressure on them.
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@dylans been on and off the floor with injury
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the clones are about to beat texas. very nice…
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@dylans said in K-St Game Thread:
It’s been disappointing that MJ can’t get more run. Practices must be a wreck.
Got to be something going on. - -I mean not even sniffing the floor - all these medical claims I think is a big BS cover
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@approxinfinity cool AF
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@Kcmatt7 you’re right he did shoot 6 threes
I’m not sure end of game normally ball isn’t in his hands to make the play
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@approxinfinity I was hoping after a KU win, the one KU fan would rush toward the court and let the ushers know we don’t do that. Lol
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@FarmerJayhawk said in K-St Game Thread:
@dylans been on and off the floor with injury
I’m not so sure how legit that is bud. - Maybe some but some of these things Bill is coming up with- - hard to swallow
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I have Tix to Ksu vs KU at the Phog. Stupidly excited
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XII on the Ames floor looks like french fries
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@dylans said in K-St Game Thread:
@approxinfinity I was hoping after a KU win, the one KU fan would rush toward the court and let the ushers know we don’t do that. Lol
Every decade win they eeeek out win - it’s the same rush the floor. - --The old addidge is to ACT LIKE YOU’VE BEEN THERE BEFORE. - - - no difference, once again they act like fools - -This was a match up between two ranked teams , you would think you maybe - - just maybe not be that shocked - - BUT it’s K State.
Mark my words you will have some K/State morans saying they deserve to be ranked higher then us for winning this game lmao
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@cragarhawk said in K-St Game Thread:
I have Tix to Ksu vs KU at the Phog. Stupidly excited
Enjoy the beating the kitty cats will absorb that night- - mark my words
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it could be worse…wonder how Dook and Tucky are enjoying their season so far?
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@jayballer67 nah I love me some farmer even when we disagree. Farmer has some bball knowledge
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@FarmerJayhawk there won’t be but everyone knows including Bill who’s said it
There’s a reason the minutes flipped big 12 title and most of ncaa games
Either way 5-1 through 6 games if we finished 15-3 we’d win outright but tougher games ahead than the first 6
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Lots to learn from this game. Shot pretty poorly and still forced overtime. Coulda Shoulda. Whatever. Most importantly, get better after this loss.
And I really tried to not say it, but it has to be said: 1) holy crap the officiating was atrocious and completely selective; 2) listening to Fran almost made me barf tonight.
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@bskeet I haven’t wanted to hear from Fran for a very long time. Since his boy was at OU pretty much. Everything against KU as much as it can be possibly be since then. Id love to be face to face just to bitch slap him. Yes. It has been that bad
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@kuballin10 then there will be one by every other name up there with a natty. Very weird hang up.
13 wins gets the title. We’ll get there.
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Someone is making mid season enemies again at the bucket.
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That last play was broke. Ball was suppose to be passed to Wilson, from the inbounds. Anybody watch postgame.
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Self wanted the TO before Wilson even had it. Maybe not a big screw up https://twitter.com/kflaherty247/status/1615567672699244546?s=46&t=1KWV82X8eajxy0QxTZyeeg
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Eff. Stupid sheep lovers.
Had to watch the game late tonight. So many opportunities to win that game, just crapped away by so many reasons. We could have, and should have won that game, at the end of regulation.
A few incredibly bad decisions were costly for sure:
– DaJuan attempting to pass it to Zuby on the high post. turnover. why? bad.
– Self made two bad timeout decisions. Four seconds on the clock and call a TO??? bad.
– Self (i assume) made a terrible call to try to force an over the top the ball inside to Clemence late. Turnover. Dude’s rarely on the floor in non important moments, let alone important moments. bad.
– The last possession was comical.
I rarely say this, but the referees made some very interesting decisions and non decisions tonight.
Kevin McCullar is BEYOND frustrating. How can you be that bad with your experience?
I knew there was a chance we could lose tonight, but the way we lost leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
I’m not smart enough to now why we really can’t get a shot off most of the time. Wilson, dribble drive, toss up a miracle, get fouled. That’s all we got?
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@Kcmatt7 said in K-St Game Thread:
One thing is certain: We need more from Kevin going forward if we’re winning the conference.
I hope not more of what we saw tonight, and many other nights…
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KJ improving every game
Dick still gets 16, altho it felt like a quiet 16
Jalen goes off, maybe a lil swagger back that looked like it could be missing for a few games
The bench produced 8 points and got some very valuable experience
This game may have done more for us than we can understand at the moment, stay tuned
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@FarmerJayhawk said in K-St Game Thread:
Self wanted the TO before Wilson even had it. Maybe not a big screw up https://twitter.com/kflaherty247/status/1615567672699244546?s=46&t=1KWV82X8eajxy0QxTZyeeg
It is the right decision probably 99% of the time. You’ve floundered for 23 seconds and the ball is still 40 feet from the basket.
Bill is usually one of the best play callers in-game.
The timeout was smart from a coach. Really not worth criticizing him over imo.
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We were not going undefeated in Big 12.
This L, on the road, against a ranked team, in a hostile environment, could be very helpful in the long run.
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@kuballin10 @Jethro or @nuleafjhawk? Oh yeah, the KU fans.
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@Kcmatt7 it’s a great timeout with 23 sec left but a head scratcher with only 5 seconds remaining. Stopping the game with only 5 seconds left allowed the defense to reset and put time pressure on your own offense. Self is a great coach, and even the great ones can make a questionable decisions sometimes.
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K State wants to beat KU so badly year after year. That win last night made their day ( or even the season). I never got that excited after beating KST, us KU fans only think about winning the national championship.
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@BCT said in K-St Game Thread:
@Kcmatt7 it’s a great timeout with 23 sec left but a head scratcher with only 5 seconds remaining. Stopping the game with only 5 seconds left allowed the defense to reset and put time pressure on your own offense. Self is a great coach, and even the great ones can make a questionable decisions sometimes.
I’m not gonna question Coach. He has made WAY TO MANY Correct decisions Actually if it was me I probably would of done the exact same thing. -To easy to try and place blame --There is no way he knew or anyone would know that shot was gonna go in from Jalen.
When it doesn’t turn out the way we like-to easy to pace blame- - got this moronic K/State Old High School friend, he says KU is not a GREAT team - he says Great teams don’t make excuses when they lose to their equal ( DAm didn’t realize we have met our equal- - I just gotta quit drinking so much Diet Coke I guess lol. - -Says Great teams is not about Championships - -they are Champions - now that’s typical K/State way of looking at things.
It’s ok- -we got a return trip coming - - we be here , not going anywhere - just waiting in the Phog
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@Kcmatt7 said in K-St Game Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in K-St Game Thread:
Self wanted the TO before Wilson even had it. Maybe not a big screw up https://twitter.com/kflaherty247/status/1615567672699244546?s=46&t=1KWV82X8eajxy0QxTZyeeg
It is the right decision probably 99% of the time. You’ve floundered for 23 seconds and the ball is still 40 feet from the basket.
Bill is usually one of the best play callers in-game.
The timeout was smart from a coach. Really not worth criticizing him over imo.
You and me both. - -Never happen BUT if I were the Coach , I would of probably done the EXACT same thing. Way to easy to try and place blame on one time. - We had many , many, other things that was not good last night that just as easily cost us this game. -If we umm say shot better % from the line - - Shot better from the 3 - - hadn’t turned the ball over so much - -if we had done better then in any of those area’s chances are it wouldn’t of come down to that one possession
Now don’t get this wrong but I DO THINK kinda interesting how THREE of our players got hurt no mattr the degree at different times during the game - -of course K/State didn’t have anything to do with that - -cause no fouls called right ? - Juan , Jalen , KJ- – - THEY GOT MUGGED at one time or another - --no call- BUT thats ok - -were not going anywhee – just sitting waiting in the PHOG for the kittens to come play
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I really think Harris was out of sorts after his major fall. Not saying he was concussed but he sure looked shook. And when he came back he wasn’t able to get the ball where it needed to go consistently like we are used to seeing. Part of that is having 3 30 minute a game guys on the bench fouled out, part of it is good pressure from KSU, and part of it has to be he just wasn’t at 100%.
This team doesn’t have a guy who can really create for himself. Even JWill needs a little bit of a set or motion when in the half court in order to get the ball to somewhere we can score. But neither did last year’s team and that worked out ok. I would be shocked if we have 3 starters foul out of another game this season.
And even with all of the struggles this team had (definitely hoping this one goes into that section of games where you played bad category) we had every opportunity to win. Make one more 3, make 2 more free throws, get one more stop. Any of those lead to a win.
Before the season I was hoping this team would be good enough to get a decent seed in the tourney, challenge for the big 12 title and maybe make a sweet 16/elite 8 type run. All they’ve done so far is show me those hopes are really more like expectations now and the hope is really for the repeat (not something I saw as a possibility before the year).
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@benshawks08 said in K-St Game Thread:
I really think Harris was out of sorts after his major fall. Not saying he was concussed but he sure looked shook. And when he came back he wasn’t able to get the ball where it needed to go consistently like we are used to seeing. Part of that is having 3 30 minute a game guys on the bench fouled out, part of it is good pressure from KSU, and part of it has to be he just wasn’t at 100%.
This team doesn’t have a guy who can really create for himself. Even JWill needs a little bit of a set or motion when in the half court in order to get the ball to somewhere we can score. But neither did last year’s team and that worked out ok. I would be shocked if we have 3 starters foul out of another game this season.
And even with all of the struggles this team had (definitely hoping this one goes into that section of games where you played bad category) we had every opportunity to win. Make one more 3, make 2 more free throws, get one more stop. Any of those lead to a win.
Before the season I was hoping this team would be good enough to get a decent seed in the tourney, challenge for the big 12 title and maybe make a sweet 16/elite 8 type run. All they’ve done so far is show me those hopes are really more like expectations now and the hope is really for the repeat (not something I saw as a possibility before the year).
Well as crazy as it sounds - there are A LOT and I mean A LOT of sports folks that think KU has a very legit shot to repeat as Champions- I think i like the sound of that. Now is it gonna happen, well we need for a couple of things to happen. The BIGGEST THING is we have JUST GOT TO GET SOMETHING out of our bench/bigs to make that possible- another I think some how some way MJ has got to see the floor
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Juan made a perfect pass to clemence, who made the nice catch but! turned and put the ball DOWN and was stripped. We probably all figured he couldn’t get all those three things right. But he did just score before that. I don’t think it was Juan’s fault and that’s what he’s suppose to do. Now in the end of regulation, what the heck was Zuby doing so high and so close to Juan? Nothing good was coming out of that! Why would we have him in just to reverse the ball? The best we had? Catch and pass. Jank could do it. Looked like jr hi boys.
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Post game Self said Bobby was suppose to pass to Wilson. That’s it.
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@Crimsonorblue22 You could even see Dejuan look at Zach and think, “this is the ‘right’ pass but it feels wrong” and then decide just to throw it in there anyway.
My big takeaway is that our starters are very important to the success of this team. That’s basically always true but might mean this team has a thinner margin for error than others.
