Vaccine
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All my grandparents have had both. No issues. One of my good friends who’s 30 got both of his for continuity of government and was sick as a dog for 24 hours after the second dose. He told me at least he knows it worked! The more folks get them ASAP, the better chance we have of having 16,300 screaming fans in AFH for the first exhibition in October!
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I am a week out from my 2nd the first was no issue.
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@BeddieKU23 I think it’s the opposite, most people that have side effects are younger and they say that’s due to their immune system reacting to the vaccine. I also read they really don’t want you to take meds cause they want your system to react.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Absolutely right on why a strong reaction signals a strong immune system.
Related to what you discussed is why many people have a more severe reaction to the second shot: the immune system gets sensitized by the first shot, and as a result is ready to trigger greater reactions to the second.
On the issue of tylenol and other NSAIDs I think the guidance is to not take anything before the shot and up to something like 12 or maybe 24 hrs or so afterwards. (Doctors posting on a 3000+ thread I have followed since last July seem in agreement that the fear of reducing efficacy of the vaccine is minimal after that. Reducing a fever at that point doesn’t hinder your immune system’s reactions; it just reduces the way your body exhibits those reactions.)
Congrats and Kudos to vaccine recipients! It is simply amazing to me how many people are deadly serious (pun intended) about avoiding the benefits of the astonishing efforts to keep them alive and healthy.
“But I heard the vaccine has killed, like, 50 people in the US!”
“And the virus has killed 10,000 times as many! Did you flunk math???”
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Yeah we are young’ish you could say, mid 30’s. I rarely get sick/cold and both shots my body seemed to react accordingly. The nurse who did both of my shots recommended Tylenol (since I had to work the next day) after so I took 1 after receiving and 1 the next morning.
My Fiancé however starting reacting about 8 hours later, had about 24 hours of fever/body aches/sick feeling/headache. She had a tension headache for a week after as well. She tends to get sick easier then I do and colds etc seem to hit her harder then me so I wasn’t surprised that her body reacted this way. We were both aware that the 2nd shot had a higher chance of this due to the body being triggered by the booster shot as @mayjay said.
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Question: What are the guidelines for getting the shot where everyone lives. Here in VT, it started with Health Care, essential health providers (which is how I was eligible as my fiance is a home care provider). After that it switched to age- 75 and up, currently 70 and up & switching to 65 & up starting Monday.
Curious to hear how other states are handling it?
Last week we were told at the facility that a ramp up of available doses was coming and that other groups such as people with underlying health conditions, essential workers etc would be the next phases.
As of yesterday about 17% of the eligible people in the state had received at least 1 dose. Our county showed slightly higher at 18%. Positive movement…
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@BeddieKU23 Here in my neck of the woods southeast Kansas med professionals and staff were the first to receive them. They started giving the vaccine to seniors about a month ago. I’m on both the health dept and VA lists, haven’t been able to get mine as of yet.
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Here in NC, phase 1 was health workers and nursing home residents/staff, phase 2 was older (>65) folks, phase 3 is other frontline workers (grocery store workers, K-12 and higher ed faculty who have to teach in person, etc.), 4 is adults with co-morbidities, 5 is everyone else
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Vaccine:
@BeddieKU23 I think it’s the opposite, most people that have side effects are younger and they say that’s due to their immune system reacting to the vaccine. I also read they really don’t want you to take meds cause they want your system to react.
true that is what I was told. - That most people getting reaction to the 2nd dose is under the age of 55 and that actually it’s NOT THE SHOT causing the reaction , it’s your body building the immunity against the virus
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I talked to my neighbor who is a radiologist. It is true what they say about the lung X-rays after you have covid. She says it’s awful about the long term effects. So if you’re still on the fence about the vaccine. This lady is in her 50’s, and was sick for a few days with her 2nd shot, I know, that’s helpful. Throws my theory off too! Maybe 60 is the breaking pt. Another thing I’ve learned from my friend, histoplasmosis was discovered on a X-ray of a covid patient. A fungal infection. Another friend had just told me about somebody she knew had it from chickens. Mainly from birds.
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Q: I have heard you should not take Tylenol before the vaccine as it can cause a less efficient shot. Is this true?
Venditto said this is true and people should not take Tylenol (acetaminophen) or any other type of pain relievers just before getting the vaccine because they affect the immune system.
“If you take them before getting the vaccine, you can limit the immune response and you want to make sure that the vaccine has as best a chance as possible to induce that really strong protective immunity,” he said.
Tylenol or ibuprofen can be taken after the second dose of the vaccine.
“I took Tylenol after my second shot. But it wasn’t until about 12 to 18 hours after the vaccine when I was still in some discomfort,” Venditto said.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Interesting. Then the avian flu would undoubtedly cause it as well.
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So, I haven’t been able to get mine yet. But for those who have, what were the effects?
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So, I haven’t been able to get mine yet. But for those who have, what were the effects?
First round. Arm pain next day. Fiance had arm pain and headache.
2nd round. Nothing for me, not even arm pain. Fiance had 24-36 hours where she couldn’t get out of bed, high fever, aches, general feeling of sickness. Went away. She then had a tension headache for a week. Wouldn’t worry about all of hers being the norm
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@BeddieKU23 sounds good. The VA said I’ll be getting mine in about two or three weeks.
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My survey of side effects is pretty steady. Let me know where you fall. 25-40 age group have side effects, chills fever aches and some headaches. Usually doesn’t start right away, last from 12 -24 hr. 50-60 age group, 6 people I know have been sick, same side effects for more than a day, some 3-4 days! Over 60 hardly anything, my aunt in her late 70’s had a headache, never gets a headache. I get my 2nd one next mon.
scared. Most people have taken moderna. A couple in the second group, Pfizer. I’m editing as I hear more. I could add 7 more to the 50 +. A teacher over 50 today told me that 7 teachers at the high school were out the second day after the vaccine.
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Here in WA State the vaccine priority goes by a “Phase/Tier” system. First came the health care workers, first responders, and people in long-term care facilities. Next, everyone 65 and older, and adults over 50 who live in multi-generational households. Then it’s the over-50 K-12 teachers, workers in public facilities, grocery, etc. More phases/tiers yet to be announced.
Overall statewide in that 65+ group, so far about 45 percent have gotten at least one shot; around 15 percent have had both. In all age groups, just under 15 percent with one dose, about 7 percent with both.
Things are ramping up quickly after temporary shipment delays due to the weather. A lot more public and private sites are up and operating. A few more school districts are also allowing in-person attendance, mostly in the lower grades.
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Update - the health dept. called before the VA did (got me in on short notice), had my 1st shot (Moderna) Thursday, sore arm for one day but otherwise fine.
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My mom said a lady in her 60’s was sick from mon-thurs, went back to work fri, but not feeling great. Get this, just from her FIRST shot. She was
too. Yuck! Tmrw is my 2nd shot. Nervous. All of our teachers that want the vaccine are vaccinated. I have one friend and her husband that haven’t taken it, not ready but won’t say why.
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Got my 2nd shot Friday. Shoulder was tender for awhile but I managed to play two, bad, rounds of golf. No other issues for me or my wife.
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Get my first tomorrow!
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@Kubie pretty sure you are not that old!
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I wonder how many people who react strongly to the 1st shot might have had their immune system already “primed” to react by having had the virus without knowing.
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Thrilled for everyone getting vaccinated! Probably still a month or two before they start handing them out like free colonoscopies, but eventually they’ll get to me.
Mother-in-law (82) got her second shot Friday. Nothing. Yay! Friends, 65 and 82, got second shots last Friday. No probs for the older guy, but his wispy little wife (complainer) had a headache, fever and body aches for a couple days
Sister, 51, got her second shot last Wednesday (works at a retirement community) and she had a head ache that night (could’ve been a result of happy hour after work) but felt fine by the next day.
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@mayjay could be.
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@DanR did your wife get one?
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We go tomorrow! About 50 miles away. Anything closer would have to wait until April 9.
My brother and SIL (68) got their first Moderna on Friday and reported “easy peasy” with no reactions.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Still not eligible yet, but supposedly KU was trying to get teachers and staff ahead of the rest of the general population under 65.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Vaccine:
My mom said a lady in her 60’s was sick from mon-thurs, went back to work fri, but not feeling great. Get this, just from her FIRST shot. She was
too. Yuck! Tmrw is my 2nd shot. Nervous. All of our teachers that want the vaccine are vaccinated. I have one friend and her husband that haven’t taken it, not ready but won’t say why.You’ll be okay. I know some people who aren’t getting it too, a couple even saying, “I don’t get the flu shot either.” I waisted my breath by trying to explain that the flu doesn’t kill 500 some thousand people in our country in one year.
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I wonder how many people who react strongly to the 1st shot might have had their immune system already “primed” to react by having had the virus without knowing.
I’ve thought the same thing, having a more severe reaction due to basically being subjected to Covid three times.
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@Crimsonorblue22 early 60’s so not all that old but not that young either I am told
. I am classified as an essential worker so met the phase 2 guidelines rather than age based.
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Which shot, Pfizer or Moderna? It seems with the very low temperature shipping and storage problems that the Pfizer vaccine has pretty well become the no bueno nationwide.
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The one good thing coming out of covid is that IDRI will have an RNA vaccine that can sit at room temperature for 8 months+ and able to be refrigerated (not frozen) for over a year and a half.
It won’t be ready until 2022, but this is pretty groundbreaking for the future of vaccines, especially for disease in places like Africa and the Middle East.
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No problems at first. Got my shot at noon. I woke up at 1:30 am with shoulder/arm pain and from then on I had pretty bad body aches till late this am. My muscles just tightened up, and I just went back and forth, left and right tossing back and forth. Legs just especially bad. Pretty miserable, slight fever. Electric blanket helped. Drinking lots now. I feel like my body was in one huge cramp. Gonna walk the dog, stretch out. Hope it’s over!
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Hang in there @Crimsonorblue22, we need you!
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@Crimsonorblue22 definitely try drinking lots.
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Well my father who is 60 and has been fully vaccinated for a month has covid. Has just a head cold right now but wanted to share that even being vaccinated isn’t stopping you from getting it or getting moderate symptoms
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@Crimsonorblue22 Women Report Worse Side Effects After a Covid Vaccine https://nyti.ms/3v50Z5N
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@approxinfinity saw that!
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I finally took Tylenol this afternoon, but just so you know, don’t take it till you have symptoms. You need your immune system to react. I was thrilled I got it this early. 2 other teachers and I were talking and the youngest one was definitely the sickest. Save your little card, we may need it to fly one day, or who knows what. Thx for the well wishes!
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@BeddieKU23 ewwww, which one did he get? At least it kept him from getting very sick. Still need to wear
dang people who don’t!
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Phizer.
My father works in a veteran’s home. He is tested daily, has to wear two masks and a shield and protective gear and still got it. Two veterans have already died of covid. At least a dozen staff members have gotten it in the past yr. However that number has risen this week and he is one of 4 staff this week to get it and unfortunately 3 more veterans. Our local paper just ran an article that stated 40% of the direct staff did not get vaccinated and listening to my father talk about the nurses and care providers that didn’t get it would upset anyone that believes in getting vaccinated.
Hmmm
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Glad you had mild symptoms it seems.
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Fyi got some info from a person at KU Med who said that you should not take aspirin, tylenol, ibuprofen or anything else after getting the shot. More or less saying that you need to allow your body to do what it naturally needs to do…
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@BeddieKU23 they didn’t feel So mild!
glad I only have a half a day.
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@Marco That’s really interesting… I spoke to a nurse at UCSF who had the shot in Jan… she said she felt punky the evening she got the 2nd shot, but took some tylenol and that allowed her to work just fine the next day.
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@bskeet think about it, it makes sense. I’ve read it in several articles. I think after 24 hrs after you have had the worst of the side effects, it’s fine to take something.
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Some recent research indicates that taking nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medicines (NSAIDs) may reduce a vaccine’s effectiveness. Because of this possibility, it might be wise to avoid NSAIDs and take acetaminophen (Tylenol) for pain or fever if necessary.
Fortunately, you can do plenty of other things to help yourself feel more comfortable in the face of post-vaccination side effects. Try these self-care approaches at home.
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NC is bumping up phase 4 a week so I’m eligible next week!
