2023 Transfer Portal
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@BShark They need two starters if MJ doesn’t come back.
Maybe 3 depending on how you look at the big man situation.
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@Kcmatt7 Even if he is, tbh.
Zach and Bobby both are not what the staff hoped for. Don’t think Bobby will be shown the door necessarily but Bill just took a class with 3 guards for a reason.
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Just take every top level wing with size out there in the portal.
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Bobby can’t stay healthy. Either he has the worst luck or it’s a real issue
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Just take every top level wing with size out there in the portal.
Personal wish list
Scoring wing for the 4 spot Personal favorites that I think we could get: Chris Ledlum/Taylor Hendricks
2/3/4 defender with upside Personal favorite: Teafale Lenard Jr
Other guys I’d be interested in: Zeke Mayo, Brandin Podziemski (old friend alert), Aaron Estrada
I think two starter level guys would be enough and then other additions (depending on how many leave) could be good solid bench pieces.
I was thinking an experience 5 would be nice but it’s hard to see that happening plus we should have Udeh and Zuby in year 2. Think we have enough down low.
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If Zach doesn’t return, I’d definitely be interested in another 4-type body to pair with Adams. Keeps you 4 deep in the post while differing what you have back already between the 2 young bigs and KJ.
Going to need multiple scoring wings. Ideally one is more defender and the other is more perimeter shooter. I’m sure Self sees Gradey/Jalen/Kev moving on after the season so he’ll be out there looking to fill voids.
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I think there is room for a starter on the perimeter and a bench guy, just thinking out loud.
Either Johnson or Elmarko is a starter. Juan back at PG. KJ is a starter. Have a hard time believing Rice isn’t a starter if he is back. Only leaves one spot.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Bobby can’t stay healthy. Either he has the worst luck or it’s a real issue
Going to be very transparent. He just doesn’t seem that good…a poor man’s version of Dajuan who is always hurt.
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@TYOHawk Bobby isn’t good. Can’t shoot. Not really elite at anything. Constantly unavailable.
He still has potential, but I’d rather find another guy.
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@TYOHawk Bobby isn’t good. Can’t shoot. Not really elite at anything. Constantly unavailable.
He still has potential, but I’d rather find another guy.
Boggles my mind when Self says he’s the next great one. You saw signs from Frank, Devonte, Dot and Sherron early.
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I thought I saw some things early on last year but he is looking more and more like a career back-up. I am not sure the staff will move on or if he will want to. Too early to say.
Availability is a big thing too. He’s shown now that he is banged up pretty frequently. There are several guys you can point to over the years across multiple sports that would have been good or even great but they just couldn’t stay healthy.
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Bobby was a big time recruiter for this class. He was a great host and helped land some guys.
The math will be interesting. Definitely will lose Jalen, Gradey, Martin. Likely McCullar. Possibly Zach, Cuffe. -1 due to NCAA BS. Add McDowell, Jackson, Johnson. So there’s not going to be a ton of room. Maybe 3 spots at most? A starting caliber wing is a must get. Maybe 2 with McCullar gone. We’re good at guard IMO. Then it’s best player available. I’d love a one year rental scorer/shooter (wing/guard, doesn’t matter) to take the pressure off the newbies and to rebalance the scoring load.
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How sure are we that McCullar will move on? Obviously he’ll at least declare and go through the draft process again like he should, but if he doesn’t like his feedback (probably going to be the case), does he return since he’d likely make more in NIL money than on a G-League or international contract? This is another area where NIL is a game changer, especially at a program like KU, where NIL deals can be pretty lucrative.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
How sure are we that McCullar will move on? Obviously he’ll at least declare and go through the draft process again like he should, but if he doesn’t like his feedback (probably going to be the case), does he return since he’d likely make more in NIL money than on a G-League or international contract? This is another area where NIL is a game changer, especially at a program like KU, where NIL deals can be pretty lucrative.
Good Point
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Yeah been thinking the same on him. He hasn’t shown the offensive game to make it in the NBA. Returning another year would give him a shot to be a featured player
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It’s time for Kevin to start his pro career. He is who he is, and that is a dude playing overseas.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Returning another year would give him a shot to be a featured player
Don’t say something mean don’t say something mean don’t say something mean.
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I wouldn’t say it’s ideal but another year gives you 10-14 pts ppg tons of rebounds, steals and headaches
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Kevin is good glue guy and defender but if he’s our main guy we are in trouble.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
I wouldn’t say it’s ideal but another year gives you 10-14 pts ppg tons of rebounds, steals and headaches
As long as he doesn’t get Jalen/Ochai volume of shots I’m fine with it… begrudgingly.
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
I wouldn’t say it’s ideal but another year gives you 10-14 pts ppg tons of rebounds, steals and headaches
As long as he doesn’t get Jalen/Ochai volume of shots I’m fine with it… begrudgingly.
I don’t have any doubts Self could find 2-3 wings in the portal if needed but Kev would be a solid returnee next year with KJ/Juan in the starting lineup.
We definitely don’t have a go-to guy on the roster right now for next season at guard/wing like we’ve had (if Kev does leave). I know KJ has ascended but he’s got no range and projecting him to become a shooter in one off-season is dreamland.
I’m basically saying I’m really concerned about next year’s roster and who’s going to be the guy that scores points. There just isn’t that option staring us in the face right now.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@Kcmatt7 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
I wouldn’t say it’s ideal but another year gives you 10-14 pts ppg tons of rebounds, steals and headaches
As long as he doesn’t get Jalen/Ochai volume of shots I’m fine with it… begrudgingly.
I don’t have any doubts Self could find 2-3 wings in the portal if needed but Kev would be a solid returnee next year with KJ/Juan in the starting lineup.
We definitely don’t have a go-to guy on the roster right now for next season at guard/wing like we’ve had (if Kev does leave). I know KJ has ascended but he’s got no range and projecting him to become a shooter in one off-season is dreamland.
I’m basically saying I’m really concerned about next year’s roster and who’s going to be the guy that scores points. There just isn’t that option staring us in the face right now.
Oddly I had that concern about this year’s roster. Still do!
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I was confident Jalen would score but at this level he’s exceeded expectations. I definitely feel you regarding this current group still.
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Jalen has shocked me this yr! Not counting last game.
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Udeh is the go to guy next season book it
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@kjayhawks said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Udeh is the go to guy next season book it
KJ will still start I think.
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No way will Udeh leave!
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@kjayhawks said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Udeh is the go to guy next season book it
KJ will still start I think.
I’m trying to bite my tongue, but I seriously expect KJ to start at the 4 and Udeh at the 5. If we go land a stud in the portal, I reserve the right to change my mind. But if we don’t get just a guaranteed starter type in the portal I think Bill is sicko enough to do this.
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@Kcmatt7 That’s my thought as well. I do think KJ might be able to play some bully ball similar to Wilson on drives just without the shot to back it up. My secret hope is that KJ has a serviceable jumper that he just hasn’t shown yet. I know it’s a long shot.
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@benshawks08 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@Kcmatt7 That’s my thought as well. I do think KJ might be able to play some bully ball similar to Wilson on drives just without the shot to back it up. My secret hope is that KJ has a serviceable jumper that he just hasn’t shown yet. I know it’s a long shot.
Yea since the days of Mitch Lightfoot we’ve been hoping a big man could develop a shot… I don’t think it is crazy to think KJ could stretch his range to the top of the key. But I also don’t see how his shooting is the liability some think it is. He is shooting 64% from 2 which would be one of the best in the country (sports-reference is down or I’d check exactly where he stands).
If Udeh approaches a similar efficiency on the block next season I’m pretty sure it will work, and work well.
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He dunks a lot. I’d love to see his two point percentage on jump shots but I think those kind of stats are locked behind pay sites (or individual research which would take a lot of time). I really don’t like that pairing offensively.
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Hoop Math has him at 49% on 2 pt jumpers. 72% on shots at the rim matching “he dunks a lot”.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Hoop Math has him at 49% on 2 pt jumpers. 72% on shots at the rim matching “he dunks a lot”.
Not as bad as I thought. Though I imagine anything not a dunk/lay-up is classified as a jumper.
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Crazy Wake has a guy shooting 89% from the field. 60-67 on the year. Wild
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@BShark at the 4 hopefully after spending all summer working on his shot.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Hoop Math has him at 49% on 2 pt jumpers. 72% on shots at the rim matching “he dunks a lot”.
This is pretty good.
I also don’t think you can discount his ability to get to the rim. He’s a freak athlete so getting to the rim is something he’s going to be able to do at the 4 or the 5.
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UT is one of the best offenses in the country starting 3 players who basically won’t take a 3. And Hunter is the 4th and he is a bad shooter.
It isn’t the death of KU’s offense to play the 2 together.
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I hope we are not revisiting this discussion in November as we score 60 points in a close win in our exhibition.
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Yeah good point. Next year I expect him to be even more prolific in the paint. Dude should just live with a coach in the gym and figure out some post moves with his back to basket. He’s really just scratching the surface of what he could do with development.
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
I hope we are not revisiting this discussion in November as we score 60 points in a close win in our exhibition.
Oh lord - -let’s hope not
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Udeh’s development is huge for this year to have a deep tournament run and next season in general. Hope he keeps coming on!
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
UT is one of the best offenses in the country starting 3 players who basically won’t take a 3. And Hunter is the 4th and he is a bad shooter.
It isn’t the death of KU’s offense to play the 2 together.
Hunter has not been the BMOC we all thought he would be. They could’ve used Ramey the other night.
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@Jethro said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@Kcmatt7 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
UT is one of the best offenses in the country starting 3 players who basically won’t take a 3. And Hunter is the 4th and he is a bad shooter.
It isn’t the death of KU’s offense to play the 2 together.
Hunter has not been the BMOC we all thought he would be. They could’ve used Ramey the other night.
Yeah, OOF. He’s gotten worse in almost every category.
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Let’s see, who thought we should’ve picked Hunter?
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@Crimsonorblue22 I’ll be honest, I wanted him over hanging onto a guy like Cuffe. I thought he’d look elsewhere after last season.
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He’d look better here. Big part of this is the loss of Beard. Big drop off in coaching to Rodney Perry.
I’d take Hunter in a second if he enters the portal again because of the Beard situation.
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Hoop Math has him at 49% on 2 pt jumpers. 72% on shots at the rim matching “he dunks a lot”.
This is pretty good.
I also don’t think you can discount his ability to get to the rim. He’s a freak athlete so getting to the rim is something he’s going to be able to do at the 4 or the 5.
The issue with KJ at the 4 is he has no range so playing him next to Udeh takes away pretty much all of KJ’s offensive strengths because he won’t have the room to drive or run Pick and Roll. If you play a 2 big line up with KJ, the other player has to have range to space the floor and open up the paint. This is how Self was able to play KJ and Zach Clemence together in the KSU for a short stretch. Clemence has tge range that defenses have to cover him on the perimeter compared to Udeh or Ejiofor who don’t have that kind of range.
If KU were to have a line up with Harris, McCullar, Adams, and Udeh next year, Self would need to go buy a playmaker at the 2 spot, otherwise defenses would just pack the paint and dare KU to make a 3.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Or KJ has to develop an outside game in the offseason
