Pittsburgh State Gorillas - Thursday - Halloween - 7 pm - ESPN "#@$^%&*" +
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The drive from Pittsburgh to Lawrence
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The one time my mom doesn’t cheer for KU since she went to Pitt St.
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Thx lump, so many interesting places and people in our own state! Great pics!
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@Crimsonorblue22 lots of good hard working people. Respect for farmers especially. Many historic towns. Really enjoyed my drive down to OK a few months ago.
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Great job as always @wrwlumpy. The drive from Pittsburgh to Lawrence is better than the drive from Hays lol. To be honest I don’t care much for southeast Kansas. Its pretty run down and full of hicks. Reminds of Missouri too much lol.
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I was field director for a campaign in KS-02 years ago and did the whole tour de SEK. Even went to Neewollah a time or two. It’s crazy how different it is compared to the rest of the state. Very industrial and working class. All the hospital closures and Amazon leaving really hit the region hard. Great people though! On of my very best friends from KU is from Oswego and graduated from PSU (KU MBA).
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SEK has taken a beating the last decade or so. There are a lot of great people down there.
The hospital closures have a lot of people in that area crossing state lines (either into Missouri or Oklahoma) for care. That’s not a good situation.
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Great tradition on this site! Always look forward to these.
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Wish I could see the actual game! E+ sucks!
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My brother-in-law is from SE Kansas (Girard). Great guy, definitely not the redneck stereotype.
Ate at both of the rival chicken-dinner places there, Chicken Annie’s and Chicken Mary’s. Both good !
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SEK was a good place to grow up in the 60’s. The area was vibrant with KC Southern shops, clay pipe manufacturing, Helio aircraft, McNally Pittsburg and more. Sadly all those closed. Transportation moved to US71 and US169. It used to take 3+ hours to get to Kansas City. Now Pittsburg is supported by the college, which is doing lots of good things in an attempt to rejuvenate the town. Pitt State is nationally known for work in combining technology and manufacturing. The college is huge and vigorous. And, no, it’s not full of rednecks. (It was one of the few “blue” counties in the last election.)
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@nwhawkfan I have heard of those chicken places!
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@Fightsongwriter you can’t get it?
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@Gorilla72 Sorry. I’m just basing it on some of his friends and relatives. Didn’t mean to slander the whole area.
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Blue counties, yeah that’s how I determine where the educated upstanding people live. No decent people in the red counties, just a bunch of backwards hicks that cling to their guns and Jesus…
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Welp
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I about said, “can’t we all just be purple here?” But then I thought about that. I prefer Red and Blue. RCJH
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There are great and terrible people of every political persuasion. Don’t think they’re correlated at all. Crawford Co. went Trump in 16, Kelly/Watkins in 18. As purple as it gets!
I’m looking forward to seeing how we look with our trigger man out there. Sounds like Moss will be out again though. Have to wonder if we’ll be more turned up on defense. Looking at you, Silvio.
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dylans said:
Blue counties, yeah that’s how I determine where the educated upstanding people live. No decent people in the red counties, just a bunch of backwards hicks that cling to their guns and Jesus…
Lol…! You caught that too? It is interesting how often times those that claim to be the most tolerant and open minded are in reality not…
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@FarmerJayhawk I’m going to go out on a limb and say we look better with Dot out there. Huge trickle down effect with minutes too. Defense I am very interested in. Against Hays the d was infinitely better going “small” with long and fast defenders.
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Marco said:
dylans said:
Blue counties, yeah that’s how I determine where the educated upstanding people live. No decent people in the red counties, just a bunch of backwards hicks that cling to their guns and Jesus…
Lol…! You caught that too? It is interesting how often times those that claim to be the most tolerant and open minded are in reality not.
You are right on point there. It is just amazing.
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Marco said:
dylans said:
Blue counties, yeah that’s how I determine where the educated upstanding people live. No decent people in the red counties, just a bunch of backwards hicks that cling to their guns and Jesus…
Lol…! You caught that too? It is interesting how often times those that claim to be the most tolerant and open minded are in reality not…
So let’s talk about how to make a point with sarcasm…
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@FarmerJayhawk Been saying that for years and people just aren’t smart enough on either side to see it.
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kjayhawks said:
@FarmerJayhawk Been saying that for years and people just aren’t smart enough of either side to see it.
Yuuuup. My parents are die-hard Trump supporters and several of my best friends are democratic socialists. Doesn’t matter to me.
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@FarmerJayhawk Yep both have plenty of Corruption. The left and the right wing belong to the same bird.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
kjayhawks said:
@FarmerJayhawk Been saying that for years and people just aren’t smart enough of either side to see it.
Yuuuup. My parents are die-hard Trump supporters and several of my best friends are democratic socialists. Doesn’t matter to me.
Indeed. Stuff’s usually much more complicated than people want to admit.
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@Fightsongwriter ?? I’ve been watching games (and “Miles to Go”) on ESPN+. I wonder why you’re having trouble?
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@dylans Yeah, clinging to guns is stupid.
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Yeah, left wing, right wing, broken wing, any wing, lack of iron and or sleeping… I dump on everyone, because I know everything and have all of the answers. One of my ideas, for example, is that I am not for the expansion of something, anything, when it doesn’t work and or isn’t any good.
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kjayhawks said:
@FarmerJayhawk Yep both have plenty of Corruption. The left and the right wing belong to the same bird.
Let’s just hope the two wings don’t kill the bird while fighting amongst each other.
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bskeet said:
kjayhawks said:
@FarmerJayhawk Yep both have plenty of Corruption. The left and the right wing belong to the same bird.
Let’s just hope the two wings don’t kill the bird while fighting amongst each other.
They are (have been for about forty years now) doing a bang up job of it so far - killing the bird that they are the weak appendages of, that is. Ask the dodo what happens to large and dumb, flightless birds.
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The difference is – and it’s a big one. The left wing has moved to the deep, dark and anti-American pool of socialism. That threatens our nation. The left now is so far left of where Bill Clinton was it’s not even recognizable. The right, conservatives, have clearly moderated on many issues but aren’t moving further right of the Reagan standards. The left and right aren’t comparable in that regard.
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Ugg. The main issue as I see it is politics and sports don’t mix. You should be looking for a compromise that helps both sides in politics. In sports you make the other side bend to your will. In politics you should reach across the isle and find a middle ground that is mutually beneficial. In sports you should step on their throat when they’re down. Unfortunately The current political climate is more like a sporting event - gotta make a big spectacle, won’t compromise, no tolerance, no progress. And we all suffer because we want our team to win instead of putting what’s best for the country first.
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The right is entering dangerous territory with the increasing bent toward blood and soil nationalism and populism. They’ve vastly overcorrected for the left’s embrace of identity politics by embracing it themselves. They should’ve remained the liberal, free market party instead of embracing this MAGA/trade war/restrictionism/white identity politics claptrap. Leaves us normal liberals kind of homeless.
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@FarmerJayhawk Honestly the US “far left” is centrist for most of the world.
Agree with your overall sentiment. GOP is trying hard to appeal to awful people and it worked last time. NOT SAYING EVERYONE THAT VOTED FOR TRUMP IS AWFUL, MANY WERE TRICKED. But clearly they were playing up racism and such to get votes.
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@BShark A lot of people are single issue voters on the right. Because of Trumps promises to do something about abortion many many people voted for him. I think a lot held their nose as they punched Trumps name in the ballot booth.
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Single issue voters are absolutely a problem.
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BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Honestly the US “far left” is centrist for most of the world.
Agree with your overall sentiment. GOP is trying hard to appeal to awful people and it worked last time. NOT SAYING EVERYONE THAT VOTED FOR TRUMP IS AWFUL, MANY WERE TRICKED. But clearly they were playing up racism and such to get votes.
Thank goodness. Would hate to have Jeremy Corbyn/Cristina Kirchner types running the Democratic Party!
This is a longer discussion and I’m going to leave out a lot, but both parties are cracking up following what was really a liberal consensus post-Watergate, especially during the Reagan-W. Bush years. Every POTUS from Ford to Obama agreed on a few broad principles: markets are the best way to sort society, free trade is good, top tax rates should be in the 30’s-ish, we need a safety net that works, doesn’t just hand out cash, and pluralism is good.
The crackup really started in 92 with Pat Buchanan who REALLY didn’t like the Reagan/Bush program. He’s not a free market guy and is a borderline anti-Semite. He won the NH primary and scared the RNC into giving a crackpot a primetime speaking gig at the convention. We saw this trend continue with Perot challenging Bush and Clinton in the general on largely the same anti-trade, anti-globalization platform (remember the giant sucking sound?) As it turns out, both Buchanan and Perot were dead wrong about NAFTA. But they sowed the seeds of populism in the electorate which lit up a few giant trash fires post-08 crash. First was the Tea Party, who I admittedly was wrong about at the time. Turns out it was just a lot of boomers who didn’t like Obama and really didn’t care about policy. If they did they’d take Trump to the mat now for blowing a big hole in the deficit. Oh well.
Next trash fire was on the left, the Occupy crowd, basically the lefty tea party but more prone to drop deuces in public. I think their grievance was legitimate, that the government had the back of Wall St. more than the little guy during the crash. Both had similar populist stances: either DC or Wall St. is rigged against you, the poor sap. Trump sees these trash fires and decides to come down the escalator in 2015 and toss some nitroglycerine on it by telling the whole country BOTH are rigged against you, the poor saps, and “ONLY I CAN FIX IT.” (direct quote from RNC 2016).
At the same time, there was something else going on in the academy, which is upstream from politics and culture. The “woke” revolution was happening. I remember being a student at KU finishing up my master’s in 2014 when the Invisible Hawk kerfuffle happened. I’ll never get over the visual of students calling Chancellor Gray-Little a racist (or at very least a racist enabler), considering she grew up in the Jim Crow South and dealt with the types of racism that make your skin crawl. The Mizzou “hunger strike” was also at that time. The campus of Evergreen State University about melted down over “wokeness” around then as well. This starts infecting the politics of the Democratic Party around the 2016 election and resulted in Bernie Sanders, a bit player in Congress with extremely questionable dental hygiene, damn near pulling off a massive upset.
At that point, the consensus us normies had been fighting around for a loooong time was dead. The right had succumbed to Trump fever and the left was self-immolating at the altar of wokeness. So now most of us are like Will Smith in the last episode of the Fresh Prince. Hello? Anyone out there?
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And with all of the above being said Trump will win re-election by a margin even larger than what he won by against the thing that I will refuse to name and just refuses to - Lol! - fucking go away… By the way, borders are good and necessary - countless wars, including two world ones, have been fought trying to fend off invaders infringing upon the sovereignty of other nations.
It is damn near insane and quite pathetic how the democrats - and I am not a republican, by the way - seem to view such things as trivial. It seems that they are only trying to ensure the survivor of their party, nation be damned, while enlarging the rot that is the inner city. By the way, did KU beat Pitt State?
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FarmerJayhawk said:
The right is entering dangerous territory with the increasing bent toward blood and soil nationalism and populism. They’ve vastly overcorrected for the left’s embrace of identity politics by embracing it themselves. They should’ve remained the liberal, free market party instead of embracing this MAGA/trade war/restrictionism/white identity politics claptrap. Leaves us normal liberals kind of homeless.
It is a good thing then that I am not a single issue voter, and instead look at our nation and world for what they are by using my mind instead of my heart and vote accordingly. I am a big picture kind of guy, understanding that every single issue is not only about today, but also tomorrow.
I have a clear view of what I want our country to be in one hundred years, and present day sanctuary city Seattle is certainly not the model - squalor doesn’t work and isn’t good.
