Official Player Declarations Thread
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Well it looks as though we will be finding out by Monday morning at the latest on Doke and also will play a big part about the decision of Silvio’s future at KU. - Sunday Night is the deadline for a player to declare early for the NBA draft - So if either Doke or Silvio is going to declare - -they have to have it done by Sunday Night. - -So I guess we will know if Doke OR Silvio declares. If Silvio doesn’t - -then he may just ride it out - -see how this appeal goes.
Speaking of that Matt had a pretty good article trying to break down Silvio’s appeal and the time frame. - He also talked about WHY it had taken KU 75 days to actually file the appeal - -which I thought they had already doen, and then when I saw that they had just filed I was thinking what the hell - -but he explains why - -makes sense.
I’m still starting to think more and more that Doke might just actually return next year but I wouldn’t bet the farm on it - -we will see - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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EJ Montgomery declared for the draft from UK. Although I think he is more so just trying to get feedback…
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I feel your frustration. I agree that I want players who put KU and their opportunity to play for KU paramount.
But I draw the line getting down too hard on Grimes. I don’t think he ever pretended to be a huge KU fan. He was a guy that came into Lawrence “hyped up” and ranked. That is what we get for gambling on him.
As long as we play this concept of putting much of our eggs in the “elite basket” we can expect to have more of the same. I guarantee you this happens at all the elite schools who are busy recruiting elites.
I know I’m becoming more of a Virginia fan every single day! I hope Bennett doesn’t use his new added prestige on going towards higher recruits and selling out his damn-good model on how to coach D1!
But I’m not the normal D1 basketball fan. I’m a basketball geek who loves defense… loves rebounding!
It’s hard to say how Grimes will turn out. He may end up in the league and fulfill the hype forecast. And then we will all say, “See! He didn’t try at Kansas! He merely used us to get to the next level!”
From what I have seen of Grimes, he isn’t anywhere near ready to dribble on a NBA court. But that doesn’t mean he won’t be later, and that later could be within a year!
When these kids get hyped up they get a free pass to an opportunity at the next level. That means they get exposed to the developmental tools to get there. Money fuels all of this, and marketing creates money! A hyped kid is already floating around with followers, dreamers and the like.
I’ve read plenty about Grimes. He sure seems like a really good kid! I advise rethinking all of this. The problems are in the system. Not the kids. In fact… even the players that seem the worst… there is a reason why they are the way they are. It’s a little too much to just expect these teenagers to be wise beyond their years, spiritual, and without any tarnish from the fairytale existences they have suffered with their entire lives!
I’m back coaching kids basketball. The problems start far before a kid dribbles a basketball. I personally went through this with my son, who within his first year of life was projected to be in the top 2% in height. That built all kinds of fairytale thoughts in my head. I’m back to reality now and I will accept him for who he is and what makes him happy!
Smelling sauce, anyone?!
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Since the title win UVA picked up a recruit that was ranked #400 when Penn State first had him. He got out and opened his recruitment up and now is the #200 ranked player committed to UVA.
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UVA also has the 57th recruit (out of NC), and the 59th guy, from Washington D.C. So two very solid guys from their backyard and a project. I expect Bennett to start recruiting better.
You already see Jay Wright having to take “Presumed OADs” now because of holes created by guys leaving he didn’t expect. It’s the nature of the beast. Success breeds success, but also higher expectations. Both for yourself and from fans…
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Kcmatt7 said:
UVA also has the 57th recruit (out of NC), and the 59th guy, from Washington D.C. So two very solid guys from their backyard and a project. I expect Bennett to start recruiting better.
You already see Jay Wright having to take “Presumed OADs” now because of holes created by guys leaving he didn’t expect. It’s the nature of the beast. Success breeds success, but also higher expectations. Both for yourself and from fans…
Yeah I don’t see Wright taking Quinerly without all the departures. He was not the type of character player he usually takes and as we saw his antics didn’t last long.
Wright and his staff spend a lot of time identifying talent and getting guys that fit their culture. They win a few championships and all of sudden the type of players they are recruiting changes because of departures and visibility. They developed success and it came back to haunt them after the last championship. Hard to plan for even with planning
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https://twitter.com/YahooForde/status/1119334393783422978
Nick Ward is super done.
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@BShark He heard Doke might be coming back.
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Silvio has declared for the NBA Draft - - yet if he wins his appeal - his attorney and him says he will be coming back. - Just read this off the phog
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jayballer73 said:
Silvio has declared for the NBA Draft - - yet if he wins his appeal - his attorney and him says he will be coming back. - Just read this off the phog
From Matt Tait so definitely legit.
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BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
Silvio has declared for the NBA Draft - - yet if he wins his appeal - his attorney and him says he will be coming back. - Just read this off the phog
From Matt Tait so definitely legit.
yep. - -it doesn’t surprise me - would be a smart move - -what if he stays out and doesn’t declare he would be screwed - doesn’t hurt to declare
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BShark said:
https://twitter.com/YahooForde/status/1119334393783422978
Nick Ward is super done.
Never to be heard from again tbh
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
https://twitter.com/YahooForde/status/1119334393783422978
Nick Ward is super done.
Never to be heard from again tbh
Bosnia is looking for bigs.
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Silvio asking for feedback should be quick.
Report should start and end with, you didn’t play. Come back when you actually played
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jayballer73 said:
Silvio has declared for the NBA Draft - - yet if he wins his appeal - his attorney and him says he will be coming back. - Just read this off the phog
This is what he should do.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Silvio asking for feedback should be quick.
Report should start and end with, you didn’t play. Come back when you actually played
Tait was trying to break this appeal down - - - if he falls under one part of appeal says usually takes a bout 7 days read somewhere else should be pretty quick decision
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Cassius Winston stays at MSU. They’ll probably be a deserving preseason #1
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Langford back. Winston back. Yea, they’ll be good.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
https://twitter.com/YahooForde/status/1119334393783422978
Nick Ward is super done.
Never to be heard from again tbh
Bosnia is looking for bigs.
Maybe find Preston there chillen
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Kcmatt7 said:
Langford back. Winston back. Yea, they’ll be good.
And tilmon
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Kcmatt7 said:
I expect Bennett to start recruiting better.
I think he recruits the right guys for his system.
He’s starting to figure out that he still needs some offense to win titles. I’ll tell you one thing… he puts Self to shame when it comes to playing “BAD BALL.” No “offense” to Self… but UVA used to like games in the 50s, and once in a while they get one in the 40s.
I’m still surprised no D1 coaches have figured out how to find some real rough-cut diamond future defensive specialists… For those, go to D1 football recruits and look at defensive backs. Many of those guys that are just under being the top but are multi-dimensional athletes would be great pickups. If Self really ends up with many holes next year he should pick up a couple. They will toughen up the entire team and make all our guys better on offense, too, because no more easy baskets in practice.
Football players have different attitudes… especially defensive players. There are plenty of these uber athletes out there that run 6’2" or taller and can jump out of the gym.
Look at our prized Garrett. He sort of fits this mold. I’d love to have a couple Garretts on our team.
Remember Clint Normore? He made a HUGE difference on our NC '88 team!
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Doke has one more day to declare for the draft.
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Was just thrown for a bit of a loop…I turned on the TV to watch the Stanley Cup playoffs on CBC Hockey Night In Canada, and the first face I see is Quentin Grimes!
Didn’t realize he has a half-brother who plays for Winnipeg. The network was doing a feature on the two. If Q makes it in the league (a BIG if in my book), they’d be the first pair of brothers to play in the NHL and NBA.
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It’s frustrating… but don’t be surprised if he makes it in the league, at least as a reserve.
Reality will set in with Q before long. No more easy street cred. From here on out, his game will do the talkin’. That’s the first reality to come for these young guys. There is a million guys that “came close” out there. It’s a brutal awakening… the NBA clock starts now and it’s a short clock. Q has to get hooked up with someone to develop. If he picks his agent right, the agent will set him up, or a team who is interested will. The real work starts now. No time to goof off. No time for KU classes. Just train. We will quickly see if he can really stand a chance. Within 6 months his body should look completely different. No more pudgy thighs! Right now he is a full step behind any NBA player.
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@drgnslayr He was a full step behind A LOT of college players. He may be 3 steps behind the ave. NBA player.
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Edited OP to reflect Enaruna commitment.
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@RockkChalkk Just saw the thinking emoji next to Grimes NBA. That’s quality work.
