Quentin "Big Game" Grimes
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Q had a great game last night. Would love to see more of that moving forward especially with the Doke injury.
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Grimes’ struggles have a lot to do with how KU’s offense was running. KU was looking to get Dedric and Doke involved first, using Grimes as a floor spacing shooter. This is a role Grimes has probably never been in his entire life. Add to that the fact that Dotson was handling the ball, and suddenly Grimes isn’t even getting touches on a lot of possessions. That’s something Grimes probably hasn’t ever experienced as a basketball player.
His offensive rhythm was off. It’s somewhat similar to what we saw Malik Newman struggle with last year. For the first time in their lives, these guys were 1) off the ball and 2) not the primary (or even secondary) offensive option. That’s a huge adjustment.
With Doke out now, I think both Lawson and Grimes take their games up a notch. The question is how to reintroduce Doke once he comes back.
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Really good points and probably spot on about Grimes.
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Grimes really slipping down draft boards. I’d bet on him being back at this point.
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Dreaming of a world where KU has Dotson, Grimes, and one of Dedric, Doke, or De Sousa back for next season.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich We desperately need some post help for next season. KJ, Mitch and Big Dave isn’t going to cut it.
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At this point yeah he is really damaging his stock.
I do however believe he’s going to turn it around. He had some pro moments against Wofford and early looked in rhythm against NM St. A few unfortunate aggressive plays to the hoop saddled him on the bench and he never recovered from it. Tools are all there but he’s the one guy that still looks out of sync with teammates.
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Agreed. I think it’s likely that KU has at least one more big for next season in the form of a recruit, transfer, or someone on the current roster.
I am very high on Dave despite the fact that he can’t get onto the court this season.
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@BeddieKU23 I’m hoping. I’m worried Bill might ruin him for this season.
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This next draft is sooooo weak is the biggest issue for guys returning.
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I think Dedric will be back. He just doesn’t have the athleticism to get it done on that end of the floor. He’s not fast enough to keep up with perimeter guys, and the 4’s in the NBA will expose his size.
Grimes needs to get the ball and get downhill more often. He can’t seem to find his place in this offense yet. He also may need to crash the offensive glass. Sometimes a few effort type plays can get you back on track offensively.
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@BShark will Charlie and McBride be enough when Dotson leaves us? I can’t remember, do we have another likely PG commit?
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@justanotherfan It’s not just about the NBA when players decide to leave early. I don’t think Dedric is going to be a NBA player, but what does he accomplish by coming back next year? He is just wasting another year. He can go to Europe and make a very nice living.
I don’t think anyone should think Dedric is coming back. It makes no sense for him at all.
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approxinfinity said:
@BShark will Charlie and McBride be enough when Dotson leaves us? I can’t remember, do we have another likely PG commit?
BIG trouble if Dotson does go early. Self should do everything in his power to get a 2nd year.
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justanotherfan said:
I think Dedric will be back. He just doesn’t have the athleticism to get it done on that end of the floor. He’s not fast enough to keep up with perimeter guys, and the 4’s in the NBA will expose his size.
Grimes needs to get the ball and get downhill more often. He can’t seem to find his place in this offense yet. He also may need to crash the offensive glass. Sometimes a few effort type plays can get you back on track offensively.
Dedric being back would get me really excited.
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I think David had to know he wasn’t going to get much PT early with the bigs we have and he knew when he signed that SDS was here and he ain’t even cleared yet. Mitch made a statement Saturday that he needs more minutes.
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Woodrow said:
@justanotherfan It’s not just about the NBA when players decide to leave early. I don’t think Dedric is going to be a NBA player, but what does he accomplish by coming back next year? He is just wasting another year. He can go to Europe and make a very nice living.
I don’t think anyone should think Dedric is coming back. It makes no sense for him at all.
If Dedric goes to Europe, I think he will be an absolute stud. He will put up double doubles just rolling out of bed. He could play a dozen years overseas if he wanted.
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justanotherfan said:
Woodrow said:
@justanotherfan It’s not just about the NBA when players decide to leave early. I don’t think Dedric is going to be a NBA player, but what does he accomplish by coming back next year? He is just wasting another year. He can go to Europe and make a very nice living.
I don’t think anyone should think Dedric is coming back. It makes no sense for him at all.
If Dedric goes to Europe, I think he will be an absolute stud. He will put up double doubles just rolling out of bed. He could play a dozen years overseas if he wanted.
Yep, and make A LOT of money!
Keith Langford might be the best example of this over the last 20 years or so. He just accepted his role in Europe, cashed checks, and traveled the world. Pretty decent work if you can find it.
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@BShark I cant see how he keeps him here at this rate. Second game where the announcers said he might be the fastest kid in the class.
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I dont think you’ll see any Kansas guy go in the first round at this point. I bet Doke goes but its mid second round as well as Vick. Any updated mock draft I’ve seen has moved Grimes out of the first round or not getting picked at all. Dotson also isn’t on any that I’ve seen, I’d be shocked if both of those guys aren’t back next season. If Dedric is a part of a deep run in march, you may see him try to go over seas. I think with an early exit he will return but you never know @BShark had a dream we won the title and Dedric went nuts about how he coming back for another lmao.
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@Woodrow If you can find it in cities you actually want to live in. Europe is a strange, strange place. Some of the cities are so old, even basic necessities aren’t what we’re accustomed to. Add in that most of the time guys have to be willing to go to the middle-east. Which also can have strange accommodations. Food is different. Travel is different. Being in a place you don’t speak the language (and have no reason to since you will probably be playing for a different team in 9 months) can suck.
I loved every second of my time in Europe. But I also could see why some people would struggle with it. If you don’t play at one of the major Western European countries, or in a major city in one of the Eastern European countries, it takes a certain kind of person to enjoy and succeed.
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kjayhawks said:
I dont think you’ll see any Kansas guy go in the first round at this point. I bet Doke goes but its mid second round as well as Vick. Any updated mock draft I’ve seen has moved Grimes out of the first round or not getting picked at all. Dotson also isn’t on any that I’ve seen, I’d be shocked if both of those guys aren’t back next season. If Dedric is a part of a deep run in march, you may see him try to go over seas. I think with an early exit he will return but you never know @BShark had a dream we won the title and Dedric went nuts about how he coming back for another lmao.
I like @BShark’s dream
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Kcmatt7 said:
Grimes really slipping down draft boards. I’d bet on him being back at this point.
You’re calling it this early? You may be right, but there is WAY too much basketball to be played to determine anything at this point.
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@HawkChamp Grimes is reminding me of Selden, and how we had thought he could go early. And the apparent underachievement. Some Oubre similarities.
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He’s still too much boy, not enough man for the league.
But we’ve all seen this before… time, effort and experience will grow hair on his ears and then the world will know if he has NBA talent.
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@HawkChamp I didn’t say anything definite in my post. But yes, a quarter of the season down and I’m guessing he will be back.
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Grimes is definitely in the same boat Selden and Oubre were recently. I am a bit surprised that its taken him time especially after his debut game against Michigan St. That’s probably what makes it frustrating to watch is how tantalizing that first game was and seeing where his game is a month later. Q just has to believe in the process and things will turn around. Saturday would be a great place to start
