This Game Will Start Eventually I Guess - Game Thread
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justanotherfan said:
DanR said:
Interesting sub
Confusing substitution. Doesn’t make sense for Q or KJ.
Needed a FT shooter.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Very impressed with our grit.
Self made them tough it out and they did. I like it.
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Bill proud of the toughness
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Play bad and win against a good team. Well I’m happy with that
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Tennessee is good but not great. They couldn’t overcome our weakened team, even though they came close. Hats off to our team. We’ve beaten two top 10 teams this year.
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Two battles in Brooklyn, we needed that. Good to see this early in the season. So what was with MG?
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missed it by 1. i said we’d win by 7.
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Great test for the team and it passed with flying colors.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Very impressed with our grit.
Self made them tough it out and they did. I like it.
Love these type of games. Depth saved us. KJ can play given the opportunity
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Admiral has a brother named General I shit you not
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National ranking may make others think it isn’t anything special he is doing but Self is doing some great things with these guys
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@wissox we still have rooks too
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how cool is that??? RCJHGKU…hubba, hubba…
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@DanR how did you know that? No parents in the military ?
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14 straight regular season wins vs AP top 10 is pretty damn good.
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DanR said:
Admiral has a brother named General I shit you not
OKAY SO HOT DEBATE TIME.
Is this worse than the St Browns?
For reference
Equanimeous, Osiris and Amon-ra. Brothers that are all WRs, one currently in the NFL other two in college I believe.
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OU beats WVU 59-56… I kid you not…the Big 12 still alive.
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Scrappy, very scrappy. Charlie Moore and KJ Lawson were very valuable tonight.
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@BShark I feel you need to earn those.
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Better than Robin and Brook as in the Lopez brothers.
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1372 yards of combined offense for OU and WVU…
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Williams needs to get his Carmel corn back from Barnes
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@JayHawkFanToo Them Lopez brothers are still in the league aren’t they? I hope we can say the same about the Lawsons.
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I like dedrics kick after his dunk
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@BShark find out about that boot. Ok?
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Now we have to wait 8 days to see KU play a terrible Stanford team. Stanford is the kind of team you hope to let Grimes get his confidence back against. Kenpom ranking in the same range as Vermont and Lousiana.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Schofield’s dad was in the navy
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Hopefully these 2 games got Dedric going, he looked so much better. Not driving into 3 guys and getting swatted repeatedly.
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Oh, and he was born in the same hospital in England that Prince Harry and William were born in.
All the trivia I know. I lived in Knoxville for ten years so I sort of still follow the Vols a bit.
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@BShark How much are we going to lose to Stanford by?
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@DanR impressed
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Whew… Great win. The team is still putting the pieces together. But good enough to win some big games on big stages. Dotson looked great tonight. Grimes will have his day. Awesome to see D Lawson show what he can do in this tourney. KJ also got some meaningful minutes. And props to Moore who was able to competently manage the game to give others a break. This squad is a work in progress, but what a great bunch of raw parts.
Lots of weapons on this team. They can win playing a variety of styles.
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Bill takes another one away from Barnes. And so it goes…
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bskeet said:
Whew… Great win. The team is still putting the pieces together. But good enough to win some big games on big stages. Dotson looked great tonight. Grimes will have his day. Awesome to see D Lawson show what he can do in this tourney. KJ also got some meaningful minutes. And props to Moore who was able to competently manage the game to give others a break. This squad is a work in progress, but what a great bunch of raw parts.
Lots of weapons on this team. They can win playing a variety of styles.
Yep, Grimes just needs to find himself. Maybe thinking too much right now. Beating a top 5 teams basically without Grimes is HUGE. Plus Doke fouled out in 17 minutes or so… Just a great, tough team win.
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@bskeet I’ve been saying all year so far that Dotson is better than Grimes. I’ve also said no way hes a OAD at this point. Looking at previous OAD guards hes not even close.
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kjayhawks said:
@bskeet I’ve been saying all year so far that Dotson is better than Grimes. I’ve also said no way hes a OAD at this point. Looking at previous OAD guards hes not even close.
He really isn’t but he has been DEAD SET on leaving. Will be interesting to see if that changes. He has good parents and they also don’t particularly need the $ I believe.
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Both Grimes and Dotson are excellent freshmen. I think they may be the best true freshmen duo since Wiggins and Embiid… not as talented-- and not nearly as impactful as those two were because we don’t need them to be given that Vick and D Lawson are seasoned and talented scoring machines. But there wasn’t much around Wigs and Embiid. Tarik Black (sr) and Perry Ellis (so) were it.
So I like to think about these freshmen improving throughout the year and becoming more confident with the safety net of Vick, Lawson and Azubuki. It should be a team with a high ceiling as the season winds down.
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@bskeet Grimes could be a solid freshman but he’s got to figure it out from an effort stand point. That’s my main issue with him, we have some depth this so the choice is his. I’ve said for years I’d rather have a 3 or 4 star guy that goes hard than a 5 that stands.
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Grimes was so good in the USA games, he’ll get there.
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Maybe Grimes hasn’t figured out the structure yet. Maybe he’s better with less structure where he can create?
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@Gorilla72 I think you’re exactly right. Many times guys struggle offensively when getting to college because other teams play excellent team defense. Team offense is designed to combat good team defense.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I see a more complete player as a freshman with Grimes than I did with Selden (who seems to be a good comparison player). I do think it is simply making the adjustment to the college game where real defense is played. Sometimes a lot of things get jammed into guys’ heads by Coach Self and it takes some time to start playing and not thinking. Things it takes for the team to succeed. All things we’ve heard before. Guys have to persevere.
Selden seemed like a work in progress for quite a while. It took Oubre some time too. Newman was completely out of sync until well into the second half of the season. All three NBA level talent. I think Grimes will get it to click.
By the end of the season, none of us should be surprised if Grimes is our best all around player, just as we had imagined. I actually think it will happen much quicker with Grimes. He’s got a lot of good things in the tool box. Maybe more than the other three I mentioned. The struggle is many times a good thing.
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@HighEliteMajor I think he has the nba body already, like Selden, and similar handles and athleticism. I think he has an edge on mentality and it way ahead of freshman Selden onhis shot. Remember Selden took a Summer to fix his shot. No need with Grimes. I’m drinking the Kool aid
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I thought Moore could shoot the rock? 3-10 with several layups not even close. If that’s the shooting we get out of Charlie I’ll take Garrett’s intangibles any day.
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I was hollering for Svi in the corner, but it wasn’t to be. I really miss that lights out shooting. I don’t see anyone on the team that can make threes like that guy did as a Sr. Looks like shooting will not be the strength it has been the last couple years. Here’s hoping to see the defensive effort they started the second half against Marquette with more often.
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dylans said:
I thought Moore could shoot the rock? 3-10 with several layups not even close. If that’s the shooting we get out of Charlie I’ll take Garrett’s intangibles any day.
My original thoughts after watching them play at their previous school after announcing they would transfer to KU is that Moore and KJ suck. I was hoping with a year in the program even not playing that would help…
I made quite a few negative posts about Moore which got me called out by the posters one would expect. I have called him a slightly better Tharpe and I stand by that.
I think @Crimsonorblue22 has come around on this subject.
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True, but even Svi never went 8 for 8 and then another 7 for 12 the next game… Vick was a machine earlier. Very unexpected but most welcome and I’m sure hoping he finds that happy place many more times this season!
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Good to have a Tharpe… Coming off the bench.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Good to have a Tharpe… Coming off the bench.
Exactly. Even Tharpe’s SO year that was fine, but when you have to play a Tharpe 30 minutes well…we’ve seen the results. Moore is obviously very short and has a low release point which compounds the problem.
This is why we really need Dotson back next year. Dotson is the key to next year’s team being a contender.
