FIBU U18 Self/Manning/Grimes
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I think the refs could make it even harder tmrw! Have to play harder and smarter. Anybody see what the ast coach did to get the T? Must have been murder.
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@BShark I think kids are seeing what we have always known about Self. And, I think they like being coached up that way! Playing team ball and running the floor. I’m hearing lots of positive things.
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It sure can’t hurt for hurt - ahhhhh lol - -I just kill myself sometimes lol - -see what I done? = =Hurt - - - -Hurt - -OH I’m to much lol. - -but anyways it certainly doesn’t hurt the Matthew and Robinson Earle get a chance to play under him and get a 1st hand look at how the Coaches in certain game situations -sure would be sweet to be able to pull those two in
Plus it would just be off the charts if somehow - some wat Anthony ended up here, - but I also am not really considering that
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I’m greedy, I want Anthony. He’s one of the best pts I’ve seen, that young.
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Argentina held the advantage from the foul line making 24-of-30 tries, while the USA was 11-of-16 from the charity line.
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Youtube will broadcast the USA v. Canada game at 7:15 Central Saturday. Even without Massey, I look for team USA to breeze by Canada. The officiating should be more even since the Central/South American bias will be absent. I really like that Coach Self plays Grimes, Hurt and Earl together. These three already play like teammates; they look to pass to each other to help each other score. I hope both Hurt and Earl commit to KU. It’s been fun watching them at such a young age.
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US should beat Canada but it will not be easy. Canada has a solid team and is playing at home looking for its first U18 title ever which gives them an extra incentive. I would be very surprised if it is a breeze.
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stoptheflop said:
Youtube will broadcast the USA v. Canada game at 7:15 Central Saturday. Even without Massey, I look for team USA to breeze by Canada. The officiating should be more even since the Central/South American bias will be absent. I really like that Coach Self plays Grimes, Hurt and Earl together. These three already play like teammates; they look to pass to each other to help each other score. I hope both Hurt and Earl commit to KU. It’s been fun watching them at such a young age.
I read where Maxey is expected to play for the US tonight. I agree with you but maybe not easily - bottom line is Canada has 3-4 pretty good players - BUT US is just so balanced with pretty good players I think the overall talent of 12 will be more then they can handle
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Jballs, you are the man
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I hear cal is at game, picking up coaching pointers!
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I like the way team USA takes it to the rim on offense.
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I hate the ref cam. It needs to go the way of the helmet cam
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@stoptheflop bill self offense!
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Kinda slow start to 2nd half
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It appears the USA players have picked up HCBS offenses!. Maybe not so much the defense…
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I will just say that Bill Self did the best job in trials that I have seen in 15 years in this business. Covered nuances of euro officiating. Hadn’t seen that before. Jerry Meyer
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bill self, pretty sweet, kicked their butts
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Gotta be a great recruiting tool for us!
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just total domination. Grimes is gonna be sweet his one year here at KU. - -JUMPIN - - -GEE - - - HOSSIE - -TOADS I want Robinson Earle & Hurt Sooooooooo bad.
Looks like they play quite well together on the floor even at the same time. - -I know Coach Self is telling them both - -you BOTH can play on the floor at the same time pretty sweet combo. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Grimes mvp
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Hope we get earl and hurt! And Anthony!
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@Buster-1926 ah geez, coach probably doesn’t have room for it!
it would be sweet though
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Grimes mvp
Seems okay.
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@BShark where will that trophy go?
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More on self “Obvious that [Self] has been meticulous and fastidious in his preparations with this [U.S] FIBA U18 team,” added ESPN analyst Mark Jones on Twitter. “They’re prepared on both ends, his zone offense shredded Canada when they went to it, briefly.”
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Trophy goes to the US Basketball headquarters. Grimes accepted the trophy on behalf of the team which means he was the team’s captain. Would love to see JRE, Hurt and Grimes play together at KU.
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@JayHawkFanToo we need a replica
was cool to hear grimes say he was excited to go to Kansas w/Self!
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@JayHawkFanToo Very good chance that never happens. Better than 50/50, I’d say 75/25 at this point Grimes is OAD. He’s already showing up as a projected lottery pick in several 2019 mock drafts.
Considering KU has no scholarship seniors this season, they need some players to pan out and leave early to make room for Hurt, JRE, and anyone else they sign in 2019.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 One open scholarship but in general yeah. I fully expect Doke, Dedric and Grimes to go. Silvio situation is still murky.
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If we had hurt and earl, I’d play them both at 3 and 4. Suffer on D, but they both board and shoot so well.
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Agreed. Grimes was the Tournament MVP and he will likely be as good or better than Josh…and this is setting the bar pretty high. Dedric and Doke likely gone and still have one scholarship left from the upcoming season so scholarship should not be a problem.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
If we had hurt and earl, I’d play them both at 3 and 4. Suffer on D, but they both board and shoot so well.
I think at the college level you can easily play them together at 4/5. Interchangeable on O, primarily JRE at the 5 on D but can switch.
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Gotta have Silvio in there
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@BShark they both have such nice jumpers, we haven’t had that from big guys for awhile
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Just watched the replay. A couple observations: -Grimes is going to be really good. He’s way more advanced than almost anyone on the court. I’ll be curious to see how his game translates against better athletes in college. Well-deserved MVP though. -Hurt and JRE are almost must-gets. Hurt is so skilled, and a better defender than I thought. He’s a ways away, but will be a really good college player. JRE is coldly efficient and had a great motor. He and Hurt would be great complements. Honestly, Hurt/McCormack/JRE would be the best frontcourt in the country, and that’s not even including Silvio. -I want Cole Anthony baaaad. He’s as most complete a guard as I’ve seen in awhile. No idea if we have a shot at getting him (sounds like it’s a pretty locked down deal so far), but he and Dotson would be dirty. -There are a few under the radar types that impressed me: Watts and Josiah James especially. James reminds me of Marcus Garrett somewhat. -What happened to bigs? This team was pretty thin up front. How are Bacot and Hepa ranked that high? -Another reminder of how good Self is. USA wasn’t great for awhile, then found another gear late. He’s probably the best at maximizing talent.
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@FarmerJayhawk almost exactly what I thought.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Just watched the replay. A couple observations: -Grimes is going to be really good. He’s way more advanced than almost anyone on the court. I’ll be curious to see how his game translates against better athletes in college. Well-deserved MVP though. -Hurt and JRE are almost must-gets. Hurt is so skilled, and a better defender than I thought. He’s a ways away, but will be a really good college player. JRE is coldly efficient and had a great motor. He and Hurt would be great complements. Honestly, Hurt/McCormack/JRE would be the best frontcourt in the country, and that’s not even including Silvio. -I want Cole Anthony baaaad. He’s as most complete a guard as I’ve seen in awhile. No idea if we have a shot at getting him (sounds like it’s a pretty locked down deal so far), but he and Dotson would be dirty. -There are a few under the radar types that impressed me: Watts and Josiah James especially. James reminds me of Marcus Garrett somewhat. -What happened to bigs? This team was pretty thin up front. How are Bacot and Hepa ranked that high? -Another reminder of how good Self is. USA wasn’t great for awhile, then found another gear late. He’s probably the best at maximizing talent.
Yeah I was not impressed with Hepa. Also by going to Texas he didn’t exactly pick a great coach to help out his offensive game.
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@BShark I think they play really well together and as odd as it may sound at this point actually looked like they were having fun working together on the floor - -both were making some sweet passes. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Just look at this guy play. He has elements of Brandon Rush, Josh Jackson, Mario Chalmers, Russ Robb, and shoots a 3 pointer like Svi. NBA All- Star potential caliber, in my books. just look at the way he gets after people defensively- he slaps the ball away, and is off to the races. His handles are so good, he could play point guard. His drives to the basket remind me of JJ. I think we got our 3 point shooter:
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@KUSTEVE Grimes had a great tournament but his three point shot was off. Tbf it is from longer range than the college line plus so many games in a short span but still 6/25 is just not good.
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@KUSTEVE Grimes is not a great shooter. That’s by far the weakest part of his game at this point and he’ll be in the NBA before his long range shot develops. I’m expecting him to be somewhere around 35-37% season which is decent at best.
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Grimes looks really good, if he can improve his 3 point shooting, he’s a star in the making. I think we can all agree the 3 ball is most likely the biggest question mark going into next season. Dotson, Grimes and Garrett all need to improve in that area, the good news they’ll have the summer and fall to make progress.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I watched the highlights- I didn’t watch the games. All I saw were 3 point swishes, then I read this morning he only went 6 for 25 from 3, so…maybe he’s not the 3 point answer I had hoped for. If he can shoot 35% from 3, the rest of his game will carry him.
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Over 200 attempts this year in HS he shot 39%.
Will 6 games tell the story on his shooting? Unlikely I think.
I’ve seen some question his mechanics or effectiveness from shot to shot. Something the staff can address this summer. His shot looks good off the dribble from what I saw.
If he’s here just one year and that looks very likely we’ll see. Svi didn’t set the world on fire in year one for recent example but the comp isn’t apples to apples. I believe Grimes is a good shooter and will have every opportunity to showcase such.
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@BeddieKU23 If he could hit 39%, I’d be jumping for joy. i think he’ll definitely get some good looks with our offense…teams are going to have to try to stop us inside, which should open things up on the perimeter.
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Just to follow up a bit. He might not be the “sharpshooter” we have become accustomed to with Svi, Graham, Mason etc. Maybe he’s more along Vick/Selden where he has games he’s red hot but his averages are inconsistent sometimes.
I do know one thing watching his games he’s going to impact the game in so many ways.
He is the secondary ballhandler any coach dreams of having, he’s a heck of an athlete, passing-vision, rebounding, and size for the 2 guard position will cause fits to most teams trying to guard him. He’s not a finished product but heck I don’t know if we’ve signed a guard as ready as he is to compete and impact the game.
