Bracketology thread for the next few weeks.
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Way too much basketball to be played and way too early to predict the brackets. Lunardi’s Bracketology is click bait and big business for ESPN; he even teaches a class in Bracketology at some East Coast University.
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Defensive minded slow paced teams give me night terrors.
Their adjusted tempo is right around ours on Kenpom.
KU has gone more to half-court execution anyway. I think its helped Graham and Svi recently stay fresh on the court (as much as that possibly can).
Butler is no defensive juggernaut like they used to be under the old coach. They actually like to go up and down the court with teams that like tempo. They are solid, not taking anything away from them. Comparing them to recent 2nd round matchups such as Michigan St & UConn I feel they are around par maybe slightly less formidable then those squads IMO.
Martin is a good player, a tough matchup for us at 6’7 with girth on him. Baldwin is a good complementary guard. Wideman would have to pack a lunch guarding Doke, they have nothing to even attempt at him. We have very favorable matchups elsewhere. Not seeing it with this team especially given the new coaching staff
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I will admit I haven’t watched a single Butler game all year.
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BShark said:
I will admit I haven’t watched a single Butler game all year.
The game they beat Nova, boy that was a clinic they put on offensively. They thrived with the pace of the game and Nova doesn’t defend so it was an exciting game to watch.
They recently lost at home to Georgetown by double digits. I’m surprised they are so highly rated by Kenpom. 20th on KP but tied in a logjam for 3rd in the Big-East. College BBall is having the strangest year ever
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@JayHawkFanToo It’s starting to settle in at this point. It is down to around 8 teams that we would play in the 2nd round at this point. Most teams probably only have 3 games left?
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Yes, plus conference tournaments, so more like 5-6?
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@BShark Lundardi hardly ever gets it right. I mean, it might be close, sort of. But what his bracket looks like and what the seeding committee actually releases on selection sunday aint ever been similar. Except for maybe the 1 and 2 seeds
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Tech taking a big hit in seeding here the last week, Evans didn’t play tonight and WVU jumped out to a 16-0 lead in a easy win.
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kjayhawks said:
Tech taking a big hit in seeding here the last week, Evans didn’t play tonight and WVU jumped out to a 16-0 lead in a easy win.
Zach Smith didn’t play either. Seems like Beard was content to rest them from this game due to style of play and physicality and take the L
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@BeddieKU23 So weird that they were good to go for the KU game.
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 So weird that they were good to go for the KU game.
Of course, the game meant something especially with Gameday. After losing it seems Beard choose the future over the game vs WVU. I don’t blame him, he could ill afford to lose either for the stretch run with both recovering from injuries. The Collapse of Tech in a week has been epic
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@BeddieKU23 They could finish 4th. TCU KSU is big tonight for the final standings.
If TCU wins out and KSU wins their last game that will be 3 teams at 10-8.
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 They could finish 4th. TCU KSU is big tonight for the final standings.
If TCU wins out and KSU wins their last game that will be 3 teams at 10-8.
Good to know. I still want Tech/WVU to finish 2-3 so that they play each other in the semi’s of the Big-12 tourney
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Agree! Though honestly I don’t care too much about the B12 tournament.
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Lulufulu said:
@BShark Lundardi hardly ever gets it right. I mean, it might be close, sort of. But what his bracket looks like and what the seeding committee actually releases on selection sunday aint ever been similar. Except for maybe the 1 and 2 seeds
Lunardi and other bracketologists’ real goals and measures of success are (1) to correctly predict who is in, (2) to predict the order of the 4 number 1 seeds, and (3) to get teams on the correct seeding line. I think they don’t care at all in measuring their accuracy about their matchup predictions, except where they might make an adjustment using the protocols the committee uses when dealing with the geographic placements of top teams near home if possible, and in avoiding early same-conference matchups when possible.
We are always put in with someone like WSU just to yank our chains and generate clicks. I have seen it in years past with other “predicted” 2nd round games that look like they would be interesting matchups, such as UCin or WVU vs UK, or UNCC vs NCSt.
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@BShark I am starting to really like the idea of having the Conference Tourney in December to kick off the year. And then giving NCAA automatic bids to conference regular season winners.
Or be like the Big 10 and have the Conference Tourney early so you can rest up for the Big Dance. They start tomorrow.
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@Kcmatt7 I don’t think that would work. I really dislike the conference tournament though.
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@BShark a lot of beat up teams
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TTU learned the hard way what it is like to be at the top and have a bull’s eye on your back with all teams gunning for you. KU is used to it, in fact it seems to thrive in it.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
TTU learned the hard way what it is like to be at the top and have a bull’s eye on your back with all teams gunning for you. KU is used to it, in fact it seems to thrive in it.
Tech definitely felt the pressure. The perfect storm though occurred with Evans getting injured and having some road games that exposed them just a bit. 17 of their 22 wins at home is something to keep in mind as we fill out our brackets.
The good thing for is we’ve proven to be the same team no matter the venue.There have been many years where KU is so dominate at home and good enough on the road/neutral that we see different versions of the team depending on where the game is played. Outside of a great shooting game in Allen Fieldhouse Tech has been a below average away from Lubbock. I’m hoping our success away from home is something these guys can continue to fuel a championship run
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@BeddieKU23 nice new avatar
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KU has played well on the road which is encouraging considering there are no more home games left and must win on the road to advance.
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@JayHawkFanToo OU and Young are finding out what it is like to have a target on their back. Getting blown out at halftime. Still may get in the Dance because of all the fuss over Young.
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Several upsets in the making. UNC trailing Miami by 7, Auburn trailing Arkansas by 9, Rhode Island losing to St. Joseph by 30.
In the conference Baylor destroying OU by 25, OSU beat ISU to keep some hope alive and KSU and TCU in a tight game with seeding implications.
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There’s no way OU should be in right now. I think a couple missed Doke fts may be the only reason they are still in right now… minus Trae. Even with that if they lose one more game they should be out no questions asked in my opinion
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@cragarhawk I agree, Trae young team, isu and KSU all have looked really awful! Baylor and Osu, 'cept for next game have looked better, lately.
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And yet when I looked on ESPN site early this morning there was NOT even one article or mention of OU’s loss last night.
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@RockChalkinTexas maybe it was filed under Trae young?
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St Marys is going to be a 10 seed or so which is incredibly stupid.
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Who wants to bet that somehow, some way, we are set up to meet MU in the 2nd round – 1 vs. 8/9, 2 vs. 7/10? Seems like the easiest bracketology prediction we could make.
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BShark said:
St Marys is going to be a 10 seed or so which is incredibly stupid.
St Mary’s is a legitimate top 25 or even top 20 team, a 10 seed would be ridiculous.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
BShark said:
St Marys is going to be a 10 seed or so which is incredibly stupid.
St Mary’s is a legitimate top 25 or even top 20 team, a 10 seed would be ridiculous.
Agree! They should be a 5-6 seed. Current projection is a 10 however…
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HighEliteMajor said:
Who wants to bet that somehow, some way, we are set up to meet MU in the 2nd round – 1 vs. 8/9, 2 vs. 7/10? Seems like the easiest bracketology prediction we could make. I agree. I fully expect that if we win one game and Mizzou wins one…we will play them.
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@Hawk8086 I agree. I fully expect to play Mizzou assuming they win one game.
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HighEliteMajor said:
Who wants to bet that somehow, some way, we are set up to meet MU in the 2nd round – 1 vs. 8/9, 2 vs. 7/10? Seems like the easiest bracketology prediction we could make.
If I still had a farm, I’d bet it on this.
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@BShark I predict Mizzou as our 8/9 seed to get the border war back. Kentucky as our 4/5 seed to give the Blue Bloods another shot at one another this year. North Carolina as our 2 seed for the always juicy former coach matchup.
I wouldn’t bet the farm but if KU is a 1 seed I bet 2 of these 3 pan out.
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Of course Mizzou would choke away their opportunity to play us. They have a current 3 game 1st round losing streak including of course the loss as a 2 seed!
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7 losses, still #1 seed? I just don’t see it.
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@BShark putting Saint Mary’s as a 10 seed is almost as dumb as putting a 3 loss #23 ranked UNI team as a 10 seed. Bilas said something today that I really agree with about how some of theses mid majors that are on the bubble with 24 or 25 wins are at huge disadvantage because they don’t play top 50 or even top 100 teams in their conference tournament. I personally think a team like Old Dominion deserves to be in more than a team like OSU. They are giving a ton of respect to the big east with both Nova and Xavier as one seeds.
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HighEliteMajor said:
Who wants to bet that somehow, some way, we are set up to meet MU in the 2nd round – 1 vs. 8/9, 2 vs. 7/10? Seems like the easiest bracketology prediction we could make.
NCAA had a chance to do this in 2013 when both Missouri and Wichita St. played in different regions in the 8/9 game. The committee instead gave KU UNC/Villanova as their 8/9 seed. If the committee didn’t set up a potential Border War game that season (Missouri’s 1st in the SEC), Then I don’t see them putting Missouri in a potential match up with Kansas this year either.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 The main difference I see there is the passage of time without renewal of the rivalry. But you never know what the tourney folks are thinking.
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Nebraska might have the dubious distinction of winning 13 league games and not making it to the dance.
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@kjayhawks I agree. The committee has a history of this kind of stupidity.
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wissox said:
7 losses, still #1 seed? I just don’t see it.
I agree. That does not compute.
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@HighEliteMajor Welp as of this morning your right. -at least one of them. - -ESPN and Lunardi has Missouri as a # 9 in our region which means if we were to win and them beat Butler they would be a 2nd round matchup
Jerry Palm from CBS has V/Tech vs St Marys as a 8/9 matchup in our Region. -And of course the talk is Micheal Porter will play - talking about really good chances of him playing in the SEC tourney - -so there you go - - - go figure. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 Top 20 team in the country by any measure St Marys. Unreal that they won’t be a 4/5 seed.
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@jayballer73 I just feel it coming …
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Just a note. - - -Radford becomes the 1st team in the dance. - - Big South Champs - - -22-12
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Loyola of Chicago is now in. Great story. 1st bid since 1985. Their chaplain is a 98 year old nun who prays before the game and throws in a scouting report into her prayer. I.E “We pray we’ll have success boxing out #42 who grabs 5 offensive rebounds every game”. After games she emails the coach and players what they did well and what they need to improve upon.
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wissox said:
Loyola of Chicago is now in. Great story. 1st bid since 1985. Their chaplain is a 98 year old nun who prays before the game and throws in a scouting report into her prayer. I.E “We pray we’ll have success boxing out #42 who grabs 5 offensive rebounds every game”. After games she emails the coach and players what they did well and what they need to improve upon.
Surely that is against some NCAA rules. Is she payed? Are they over the limits on assistant coaches? Maybe Yahoo will break the story.
