Alexander, Diallo...Preston?
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Billy has lived in California, Texas and Virginia while attending assorted prep schools; I don’t believe he qualifies as a Kansas resident. I seem to remember but I am not sure his mom lives in Texas but it is possible she is now in Florida. If a car was leased, it would have been done by his mom since Billy most certainly would not qualify.
At one time I looked at car leases in Florida for my dad and remember looking at some really great deal that I could not dream in Kansas; Florida has much lower taxes than most states; in fact, Florida has no state income tax and this is why many high earning athletes reside there since they can save literally millions…but then Texas does not have income tax either while Kansas just raised the state income tax…retroactively…I bet the explanation will be a doozie.
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DanR said:
@BeddieKU23 The best part of Garrett’s defensive game is that he makes it hard for the other team to get the ball to his man in the first place. On him like glue the entire time, head swiveling around tracking the ball to stay in position.
Which is why I think Marcus would be a good option guarding him on the perimeter. We have no idea how good he’d do in the post area but in HS he said he guarded Centers. Daum does have post moves and at 250 pounds any guard no matter how good defensively is going to struggle trying to stop a guy from putting his big body on you. We’ll see what happens. I know Doke is going to struggle trying to guard him outside
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@JayHawkFanToo I only leased one car. I lived in Virginia. It was owned by World Omni of Florida. Tags and registration, and insurance, were all my responsibility. They keep the title, but no liability (unlike a landlord it seems).
Billy might have been given the car by his Mom. He can register it where he lives (KS) or back home, I believe. I always left my car registrations back in KS when I was a student in Michigan and in the Army in Virginia because KS prop tax was lower.
We looked at houses in FL this past weekend and will probably move there when wifey retires–16 and 1/2 months and counting down. Lack of income tax is a big factor, and will get bigger if the tax bills get passed eliminating deducting S/L (&Prop) taxes. SC rate on everything above about $1600 is 7%. Exemption for $3000 of retirement, big whoop.
Anyway, as I said before, it is probably not signif that the tags were from FL if they were temporary. Just reflects the locale where the sale took place or origin of the car. My brother bought my car and I let him keep the tags to drive home to Illinois, but usually the seller keeps the old tags to avoid liability until the buyer gets titled in their own state. SC would have given us temp tags, but it was a weekend. I think many states now let people get a temp license on the internet that you can show if stopped, but people say driving without tags can be a pain b/c cops look for that first.
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Billy’s mom was pretty annoyed on twitter. She seems sure that the car is used and completely legal. Also that Billy has a proper license. Mentioned that she didn’t realize she had to register the car with the school.
If all this is the case I’m not sure how this has not been cleared up.
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She also mentioned the car is a pretty old model. Maybe a hurricane damaged car bought on the cheapy cheap?
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His drivers license is valid! I didn’t register his older model USED, LEGAL car with the school…didn’t know I had to.
From Billy’s mom. I believe her
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Something smells fishy about this ordeal. Otherwise, the coaching staff, which seems obviously highly concerned about the situation with our Bigs, would have pushed Compliance to get this cleared up pronto. Bill Self looks to be wary about the situation; would rather hold Billy out and move slowly than find the program’s reputation and wins in jeopardy after having played the kid. Gotta be more to it than a simple matter of registration and clearance, car and family. For instance, how did the car get to Lawrence from Florida? Did BIlly’s missing curfew have something to do with this vehicle? If all is as simple as twitter posting would appear to indicate, then we will see this recruit in action tonight. Me, I am growing weary of fishy or obfuscating social media postings.
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On the other hand if I was a talented freshman player who was offered a free education, room and board, I’d probably leap at the first opportunity to apply my monthly athletes’ stipend to the maintenance and fuel tank of a set of wheels. This current investigation must be highly frustrating for all concerned…
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@REHawk Yeah I just felt it was worth posting another side of the situation. I hope she is right, but obviously it’s not cut and dry, or KU is just being super cautious. It is frustrating for sure.
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@BShark Good to read another side of the situation. The “program” is certainly treading very carefully and fairly silently.
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He has to register/get a parking permit and get a sticker so he wants to park on campus on school parking lots.
The reason he missed a class is because when missed curfew he had to park his car illegally and had to go move it the next morning. Related?
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@JayHawkFanToo I thought he missed curfew cause he had to move his car. Not sure why that matters.
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What would fall be without some drama regarding one of our players? Anyone wonder if Self is slipping in his recruitment of players? I know we have a stellar class coming but this is an ongoing problem here, now. Too many bad headlines. Year after year. Character matters and I’m wondering if it doesn’t matter as much for Bill Self? I’ve always thought it mattered a lot. I’ve always thought we run a pretty tight ship here and we’re not like those other teams. I sure don’t want others to start thinking of KU as a school with a shady rep. Because if we become that, my own fandom takes a hit. I believe strongly in right and wrong. I take pride in cheering for good guys who don’t finish last. Don’t wreck it for us Coach!
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@wissox Or, other schools don’t self-report this stuff?
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@DanR no pun intended
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FWIW, Billy Preston is in uniform and warming up with rest of the team.
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Yep my sources just broke word Billy will play tonight.
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So we good fam?
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kjayhawks said:
Yep my sources just broke word Billy will play tonight.
Is this 100%? - -hope so get this over with. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Looks like the lawsons are all also suited up and in warm ups - may be nothing
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Ya just read, Lawsons and Moore are also in uniform too soooo that was a blow - dam - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@kjayhawks who are your sources?
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Preston more likely then not playing, they just talked to Greg Gurly, he said as of 3 hours ago, coach said unless something changes in the next three hours - umm probably not. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 yep false alarm
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He was late, missed curfew and could not park his car in a valid space (at the new dorm) and had to park it illegally elsewhere; I will guess that the parking lot closes at curfew time. He had to go move the car the next day to a valid parking space and missed a class.
The point being that if he has an assigned parking spot at the new dorm, then his car is probably registered with KU.
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@JayHawkFanToo I don’t think the lot closes
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I don’t know that either but I know that to park in a KU parking lot on an ongoing basis you have to have a parking permit which requires registering the car…unless you are using the spaces with coin meters which would be highly impractical.
Just trying to make sense of the whole situation.
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@wissox A bit of a stretch to think it reflects on Self.
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@jayballer54 guess it’s incorrect because clay is in
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mayjay said:
@wissox A bit of a stretch to think it reflects on Self.
You’re probably right, but last years character issues made me think about the old beloved alma mater a little more. Trust me, I haven’t soured on coach.
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@wissox I take it you were a kid that probably didn’t get in trouble in college. If you read any of the past players notes about Coach Self before his induction, almost every player talked of how he influenced them off the court as well as on the court. Look no further than Frank Mason. Even if they do get in some trouble I believe most turned their lives around.
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@Crimsonorblue22 I didn’t get in trouble in college! But, that only means…
…us high “conduct IQ” people figure out how not to get caught!
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The parking nazis quit at some point in the evening 10 or 12. And start back up at 8 I think, thus the need to move the car in the morning. The lots are over sold so if he was out late (broke curfew so that’s a safe bet) all the spots were likely full. Not an uncommon problem. Billy’s problem was being out too late and then not getting up early enough to take care of business compounding the issue.
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Bill Self is not screwing with a kid’s head (and future earnings) because of a simple parking problem. Preston’s situation runs deeper than parking/vehicle registration. By now, after 3 sittings, the “situation” had best be cleared up satisfactorily by Billy and family…or we’ve got another Alexander deal on our hands, with no positive resolution.
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@REHawk Heavens no. That was just the first issue, but hopefully not the tip of an iceberg.
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@JayHawkFanToo Apart from using a lot with a parking permit, supposedly Athletic Department policy is that all athletes register cars. So, either Preston did not register it with the Department, or he did and the Department abjectly failed to determine whether it was legit at the time. Either way, it’s a problem. And, as others have noted, it doesn’t take a week to figure who owns the car and who paid for it. Clearly more going on…
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As far as I know/remember, to get a perking pass all you had to do is show your DL, provide the car brand, model, color and tag number and prove you were a student; proof of ownership of the car was not needed or required. I imagine with athletes it might be somewhat different.
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Guys, there is a smoking GUN! This bit about a parking permit might reference the trigger. But the bullet ain’t just floating about in space.
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@REHawk but, I want to be positive!
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Each day passing makes me feel like the percentage that Billy will never play in a Kansas game grows.
This is not a case where we are waiting on the NCAA for an action. The process is all within our compliance program. This is starting to feel like a situation not so different than what we had with Alexander relating to a “family loan.”
We put all of this blood, sweat and tears in our program, including huge financial investments and a compliance program second to none… yet here is the case of a player driving around on campus with a “questionable” vehicle.
The next step we really, really have to make is to put all our players on some kind of chaperone system. I know we might take a mild recruiting hit for a while, but why not SELL this system to players’ parents? It seems like many of the parents would LOVE to send their child to a school where they will be carefully watched after.
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I think the longer this drags points to our compliance sending the findings to the ncaa. We reported what was found and I’m sure if it was nothing he would have been eligible to play Friday. We are just waiting for the ncaa hammer at this point in my opinion
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@BeddieKU23 I agree. This situation reminds me of Darnell and Selby: I imagine a 9 game suspension and pay back the impermissible benefits.
Unless the car came courtesy of an agent or runner, in which case ineligibility is on the table à la Cliff Alexander.
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Is Perry Ellis the best big man ever recruited by Coach Self? The easy answer is Joel Embiid but he had relatively no impact at Kansas.
Landon Lucas was a solid role player but never had the athleticism although he made for it with his heart. Aldrich was soft but maybe the second best big man at KU under Self. And my third pick is between TRob and Marcus Morris.
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@BShark Not sure if that really qualifies as good news but I give the kid a lot of points for his heart and his drive.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
As far as I know/remember, to get a perking pass all you had to do is show your DL, provide the car brand, model, color and tag number and prove you were a student; proof of ownership of the car was not needed or required. I imagine with athletes it might be somewhat different.
You just have to pay the fee for the sticker, at least when I was there. Different colors depending on where you needed to park. One color for the resident hall parking lots, one for West Campus, and one for on campus parking lots. I never had to show a DL or anything else other than saying which sticker I needed and a method of payment.
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@jhawk7782 Excluding Embiid, the best big man at KU that Self recruited was TRob, in my book. He was the most dominant. Had he stayed his 4th season, I’m sure it would have been much like his 3rd. I’d go 1) TRob, 2) Marcus Morris, 3) Arthur, 4) Aldrich, 5) Withey, all before Ellis (assuming Withey qualifies as “recruited”).
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ParisHawk said:
@BeddieKU23 I agree. This situation reminds me of Darnell and Selby: I imagine a 9 game suspension and pay back the impermissible benefits.
Unless the car came courtesy of an agent or runner, in which case ineligibility is on the table à la Cliff Alexander.
I could see it being 9 games but I believe the amount of games is dependent on how much the benefit was. In this case a car could be a significant amount of improper benefits received which could make it more then 9 games. The only good thing is that any further suspension if it goes that route should incorporate the games he has already been withheld for this situation.
I’d love to think this was just some mixup but it’s certainly not being lead on as such.
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One of the reasons TRob was so good is because he had Withey guarding the basket. Withey is very underrated, he is not only the best shot blocker of the bunch but he altered even more shots and when he blocked shots he usually sent the ball towards another KU player resulting in KU getting possession of the ball.
