Alexander, Diallo...Preston?



  • JayHawkFanToo said:

    Coach Self said…We are going to prepare as if we are not going to have him and it would be a bonus if he is available…or words to that effect. Sounds to me like he is not too optimistic. How stupid would it be to drive a flashy car not obtained on the up and up and think it will not attract attention? Aren’t these high prospects and their families instructed extensively on what not to do so the status is not jeopardized? SMH.

    How stupid? very.

    But this is Preston we are talking about. It was a miracle he was even eligible.



  • wouldn’t be a season without a big man messing it up



  • BShark said:

    I don’t expect Preston to play an actual game in a KU uniform. Ever.

    Silvio is required now.

    Man I agree. I’m sure starting to get that feeling. - Some people remark are just insane. - -A poster off the LJW under Billy status unchanged says that lots of kids get cars when they go to school which is - - - -True Then he says Billy is innocent of anything which is - - -who the hell knows - Then the statement of the decade he says - -ready ? - - -wait - -wait - - he says that KU/Self I guess is just trying to mess with Billy’s stats. - -LMAO - - KU is trying to mess with Billy’s stats? - - - What? - - trying to mess with Billy’s stats - -playing time.

    OMG - -Seriously? - -that’s the best defense this guy has? - -KU is messing with Billy’s stats? - - Who gives a rats as about Billy’s stats? Were talking about the possibility even in the slightest about Billy’s eligibility, him possibly again I say possibly receiving impermissible benefits. So my question to this Einstein is - - So what KU just suppose to go ahead and play Billy not worry about anything as to where this late model dodge Charger came from - so it doesn’t mess with Billy’s Stats?

    If it’s Billy car, possible bought by his mom - -then great, all they have to do is provide the proof that she bought it for him right? seems pretty simple, OR GOD forbid was it given to him by someone outside the family? -I’m not saying that happen - -but this is one of the things compliance has to find out right?

    We go ahead and play Billy now and then on down the line they find out Billy was ineligible and we get stripped of anything we may win? - -I’ll rather try and get through this to find things out.

    Good chance it’s nothing - something simply BUT that’s what protocol is all about, steps have to be followed NOT just some bullshit about OH KU is just messin with Billy’s stats - what the hell?

    This guy doesn’t think KU - -Coach Self - -doesn’t want/need Billy on the court? - Billy’s decisions are not just effecting him - -he is effecting the entire team with these decisions. !st missing curfew, then deciding not to go to class/ now the car. - But alias, it all clear now KU - -Coach Self are just wanting to mess with Billy’s stats/playing time - Case settled lmao.

    Like you, 1st we wanted De-Sousa here soon for depth, NOW we need him here soon, were going to be in the same position with depth now, but no longer a want - but a NEED. We really need De-Sousa her and quick. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BAY



  • How does one explain the Florida plates? That’s the hold up for me. A Charger isn’t extravagant; I believe he could’ve legitimately come across one. I hope it all checks out, but if not KU will hold him out until the NCAA clears him and they may never clear him. I hope KU doesn’t get a rep as throwing the kids under the bus. I feel they are being cautious, but others may paint it in a different light.



  • @Gorilla72 Agreed. - -things I have seen/read is though actually supposedly his mom is pretty financially stable, I guess makes pretty nice income - -But this is what needs to be found out. - This would be the ideal situation I think - -Mom DID buy the car straight up - -just takes time for her to get the proof to the school. Even with that being said though you would think she could fax that information to the compliance office in rather quick fashion to prove that she indeed bought the car.- - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • @Gorilla72 All I saw was that it was a late model Dodge Charger. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • dylans said:

    How does one explain the Florida plates? That’s the hold up for me. A Charger isn’t extravagant; I believe he could’ve legitimately come across one. I hope it all checks out, but if not KU will hold him out until the NCAA clears him and they may never clear him. I hope KU doesn’t get a rep as throwing the kids under the bus. I feel they are being cautious, but others may paint it in a different light.

    If they have cheaper taxes there that is the only thing that makes sense.

    This is Billy’s car, he does own it. KU has even stated that much. And we know his mom is not starving for money at all, far from it. That is my one glimmer of hope.



  • BShark said:

    Heard a rumor that he is done for the year and there will be an announcement on it before tomorrow’s game. DAMN, isn’t that so special - - doesn’t surprise me if this is the case. I’m telling you the streak of these occurances is really starting to be a real pain.

    Man I really hate to say it BUT our season our hopes for making a real push in the NCAA’S this year if this is the case just took a KO hit.

    Not because Billy so super multi talented BUT strictly because of Depth issues, when it come to it we come up against any kind of team in the Tourney with big quality depth, Doke has done really good this year read where he only has 5 personals on the year being able to stay out of foul trouble but for instance we come up against a Duke with the height and talent not going to be good I’m afraid - - Strictly because no depth period on the frontline.

    Like you said earlier, I don’t think now we will see Billy play ever again in a uniform at KU - if he is done for the year -he is gone at the end of the year - well he was going to be gone anyways probably but you know what I mean.

    We have just GOT to get Silvio De-Sousa here soon now - -no longer a desire but a need a bad need, - -soon. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • you can lease a brand new charger for $300/month, so maybe Billy just isn’t spending his money on tattoos



  • @DanR Yeah, but the Florida plates. He’s not from Florida. It’s really the only thing giving me pause about the situation.



  • Say it ain’t so Billy!



  • I will say again he does OWN the car, so def not renting.



  • HighEliteMajor said:

    There has to be some big Juco hack that we could plug in for 8-10 a game if this situation goes south. Somewhere. We could get him a car or something. LMAO " we could get him a car or something " - - now you stop that lol. - BUT ya hit the JUCO quick - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • REHawk said:

    @HighEliteMajor “We could get him a car or something.” Heck yes; there is a popular model positioned right now, out in the parking lot of the men’s dorm. Just a wee bit of body work, and it is up and running for our next Big. All it needs possibly from what I read was a couple of new tires. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • If they were temp tags, the car could have been bought in FL and given temp tags to get the buyer to wherever is home. Lots and lots of “Irma Specials” out there!



  • @JayHawkFanToo I would think if Billy was found ineligible out for the year, wouldn’t surprise me if he left. - -Why? - -Cause he was only here for a year anyways chances are more then not this kind of thing is getting old really fast. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • I don’t buy that it takes 3 days to find out exactly what is happening in this situation.



  • @BeddieKU23 I hope and think we find out something today either way.



  • Teams need to get ahead of this type of stuff. If a guy is clearly a one and done the coaches should ask for and verify what type of car the player will bring on campus. The coaches know the kids family financial situations and they only manage 12 players.



  • @BShark

    Didn’t they say they were preparing without him. Even if its cleared up, the prep for the game has been done without him so he’s essentially out of the game plan anyway.

    This is the risk of Preston coming full circle. Thanks Deandre Ayton



  • BeddieKU23 said:

    @BShark

    Didn’t they say they were preparing without him. Even if its cleared up, the prep for the game has been done without him so he’s essentially out of the game plan anyway.

    This is the risk of Preston coming full circle. Thanks Deandre Ayton

    I don’t care about how it impacts today’s game tbh, just want to know officially either way.



  • @BigBad I think they do. Have to get parking permits, after all. But I think that was why there is a problem–BP didn’t tell them about it, and then, oops! An accident.

    We might be really lucky he apparently cannot drive worth crap.



  • BigBad said:

    Teams need to get ahead of this type of stuff. If a guy is clearly a one and done the coaches should ask for and verify what type of car the player will bring on campus. The coaches know the kids family financial situations and they only manage 12 players.

    Pictured below, KU coaches

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  • @BShark

    I agree, the bigger issue is whether we are preparing for games without him for “X” amount of games or the season. I think that’s where its headed, Compliance has sent this to the NCAA for review



  • @BeddieKU23 Even with only X number of games, can he actually get through X without getting into more trouble? So far, unsuccessful (where X=only 1) in that dept.



  • @mayjay

    I would say my confidence in that would be close to zero. He signed with KU with risks and well here we are. Its becoming a nauseating feeling



  • The good news is we can get away with playing Mitch more against a lot of the upcoming teams.



  • BShark said:

    The good news is we can get away with playing Mitch more against a lot of the upcoming teams.

    I would love to say something positive to that fact. Well I’ll just say he can only improve if given more minutes? That’s the best I can find



  • He isn’t terrible on defense. So games like this where our guards should run circles around them I feel we can get away with him more!



  • @BShark

    Yeah he’s made some defensive contributions but he doesn’t rebound with any aggression which is concerning given the type of player he is that wants to be a high energy type guy. The bar was already low in my opinion from an expectations point but right now he needs to step up and play well. No excuse



  • @BeddieKU23 Agree and I do think this is a game where he can shine, especially relative to UK. SDSU can shoot but they can’t defend the ball one bit. They play with a slow pace and still have bad defensive numbers. So Mitch doesn’t have to do anything offensively, not really.



  • @BShark

    Yeah tonight could be one of those games for him. Especially at home where its easier for him to find comfort. I hope for a positive contribution from him tonight. The biggest thing he could do is if he’s guarding Daum, to make shots difficult and not foul. That would be a big win for him in my book



  • I think we will put Vick and Garrett on Daum, gotta make him work. He isn’t really a post player.



  • @BShark

    About half his buckets from 3 so far.

    The team has made 55% of their shots from 3 so far. Small sample size but we have to run them off the line



  • I would trust Garrett on Daum. His length and smarts would at least make the shots difficult



  • Yeah, I’m sure Self has drilled them on guarding the 3 line. Force them to get by you and make athletic plays. They actually have a lot of size but, finesse bigs.



  • @BShark

    Yeah a lot of 6-5-6-7 types.

    They share the ball well, 8 guys average 1 assist or more…



  • Yep. It’s a trap game for sure. I think KU wins by about 10-12 but it can definitely be a scary game if things go poorly.



  • @BShark

    To be fair the team they beat in their last wouldn’t have beaten our exhibition foe’s. Alabama St wouldn’t score 30 against KU. South Dakota St isn’t an athletic bunch, Daum is a big guy and he’s not going to beat you off the dribble. We have no choice but to play Doke on someone and if its not Daum then I don’t know who because their only other big guy only plays 15 minutes a game. But Doke can’t sit in the lane like he did against Kentucky and that’s going to be a problem. They will run screen actions to get him open outside. So I’m really interested in how Self scouted for this game without Preston who would be on paper the best option to cover him. Either you stick with Doke and let Daum get his and focus the rest on limiting Jenkins or you put someone quicker and smaller on him and Doke is forced to cover somebody else.

    This matchup for South Dakota St only works if they make everything from 3 and KU misses shots like they did Tuesday.



  • @BeddieKU23 Agree with a lot of this. Aaaand I don’t think KU misses nearly as many shots. A lot of that was because they weren’t super great looks against UK because UK is long and athletic.



  • @BShark

    I hope we feed Doke a ton inside. He has a huge advantage in this game if he stays out of foul trouble. This should also be a game that Vick is the leading scorer.



  • BeddieKU23 said:

    @BShark

    I hope we feed Doke a ton inside. He has a huge advantage in this game if he stays out of foul trouble. This should also be a game that Vick is the leading scorer.

    Doke gonna eat on O for sure. I think both teams are gonna score a lot.



  • I think the biggest risk is our guys fouling while guarding the 3 ptr, or fouling on pick and rolls when the 3 is being guarded adequately. Particularly for Svi.



  • @BeddieKU23 The best part of Garrett’s defensive game is that he makes it hard for the other team to get the ball to his man in the first place. On him like glue the entire time, head swiveling around tracking the ball to stay in position.



  • @DanR Yeppp

    Just about this entire forum and the coaching staff loves Garrett. Kid just has IT.



  • @BShark so what is the problem then? He owns it and it’s registered.



  • @HawkChamp I think the question is who paid for it. The more I find out though, the more I think being done for the year might not happen. If it’s improper benefits or w/e it could just be like a 9 game suspension or so. I hope we find out officially soon.



  • So, after the recruiting wait was over, now we go through a waiting period of anxiety over someone we previously waited for to become a Jayhawk. Seems like we are never settled!



  • mayjay said:

    So, after the recruiting wait was over, now we go through a waiting period of anxiety over someone we previously waited for to become a Jayhawk. Seems like we are never settled!

    That about sums it up.



  • DanR said:

    you can lease a brand new charger for $300/month, so maybe Billy just isn’t spending his money on tattoos

    PHOF


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