SILVIO DESOUSA
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He would almost have to be as it would still be the 17 school year and it would count as his freshman season. One good thing is he should be in game shape, at least HS game shape.
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@3genhawk Yes. Thankfully KU has one open due to the premature departure of the stache Whitman.
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I happened to be watching twitter when I saw a KU fan profile say something to the effect of DeSousa was absolutely going to be a Jayhawk in December. That got retracted as all the particulars of reclassifying have not been worked out just yet. But I think there still remains a HUGE chance that it happens.
Forget red shirting this guy. He gets reclassified, he is playing.
He will be our 4th Big man.
We need that extra big body off the bench.
Especially in March!
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Sounds like his guardian is pretty confident. Is anyone aware of past cases like this? Cheick was a little different. Maybe bagley?
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For a change we can go into the season not having to worry about the next class and wondering what rabbit Coach Self will need to pull out of a hat. I can get used to it.
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HawkChamp said:
Sounds like his guardian is pretty confident. Is anyone aware of past cases like this? Cheick was a little different. Maybe bagley?
Cheick went to a bogus school, Silvio presumably doesnāt have that issue. He was in Africa longer I think though and thatās what they need to be sure on, classes in Africa. At least this is what I think is the case based on reading the articles that popped up.
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A good parallel is Austin Wiley at Auburn last season. Iļø just have to put this out there. Just because this dude broke the story, donāt think itās ok to DM recruits and ask for info. Itās one of the worst things you can do as a fan, and absolutely has affected recruitments. Doing it makes the entire program and fanbase come across as creepy. You wouldnāt want randos filling your kidās inbox. So just donāt do it, even if you think you can break a story.
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Bill Self is pretty confident too @HawkChamp on last night Hawk Talk when Cunliffe at semester was mentioned he also strongly hinted at another addition.
@FarmerJayhawk You will never see me dmāing recruits thatās for sure. This put the information out there when obviously the staff didnāt fully want it out there yet. Hence Matt Scott having to be vague about it.
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BShark said:
Bill Self is pretty confident too @HawkChamp on last night Hawk Talk when Cunliffe at semester was mentioned he also strongly hinted at another addition.
@FarmerJayhawk You will never see me dmāing recruits thatās for sure. This put the information out there when obviously the staff didnāt fully want it out there yet. Hence Matt Scott having to be vague about it.
Ha, well you wonāt catch me doing it either seeing as how I have no clue what dmāing even means lol. - -I feel good just to be able to know how to pull up the simplest things - -little lone dmāing - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 Took me awhile before I realized it meant Direct Messaging someone. I get lost a lot when the social media lingo and abbreviations start flying!
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mayjay said:
@jayballer54 Took me awhile before I realized it meant Direct Messaging someone. I get lost a lot when the social media lingo and abbreviations start flying!
lOL- - Ya what you said, thatās me all over the place - - I am that Classic ummmm not to quick computer guy, but now see - -you have taught me something new today lol - -now I can go back to bed and dream about the game tonight lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BShark said:
My question would be is: ? Why does his legal guardian feel that the NCAA will make a quick decision about Silvio about his eligibility as where they as it says always take their time with other cases? - -Like Cheick for example.
Now since the initial came out I sit back and pondered , I feel that Coach Self obviously been in contact with Silvio since his commitment and they have talked and can also bet Coach Self when heard they Silvio might try and re classify hold him something along the lines that we could sure use him if that was what he wanted to do.
I say this cause It was stated in another article that the soonest he would be able to be here/or play would be right before the Texas game. - -I think his guardian even mentions/hints a little and that is WHY would Silvio come here for basically a 1/2 of the season if he thought he wasnāt going to be getting any playing time? - -Why would he waste a year of eligibility as just a practice player?
Then I thought well WHY would we even want to lose a year of eligibility with him - if we just toughed it out this year with what we had and then have him for the full year NEXT year? - - Then AFTER I beat my head against my door - - -slapped myself in the face about 20 times - -and stuck my head in the freeze I thought - - - -OH YA THATāS - -we need this guy, and we need him bad lol.-- Itās like what was said off the shiver. - -ya he is going to be behind scheme wise - -but you donāt have to draw a play for him cause he is active, active, active - -which translates rebounds , rebounds, rebounds. A win Win if he can do it. We will still have him plenty this yr if possible - you figure the 18 game big 12 season , any games in the post season big 12 - -then the NCAAāS well worth it -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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This case looks much more cut and dry than Cheickās case was.
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I see folks elsewhere comparing Silvio to Diallo in terms of IQ and learning the sets and Bill Selfās system. To me, while Silvio needs polishing of course, it appears as though he is much farther along from a basketball skill standpoint than what Diallo ever was. Maybe Iām wrong, but if the NCAA allows him to play in the spring, I would guess that we will see someone who has more awareness and more versatility than Cheick did and therefore be much more beneficial.
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Heās got a lot more experience than Cheick did, thatās for sure. However, heāll have much less time in Selfās defensive system, so heāll struggle mightily for quite awhile.
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Silvio would lose only the current one half season of eligibility and would have 3 and one half years available. Having said that, I donāt believe Silvio will stay here that long so it really is a moot point.
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You see that someplace JayHawkFanToo? From what Iāve read it would count as a full year eligibility wise but I will admit to only modest research on the topic.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Silvio would lose only the current one half season of eligibility and would have 3 and one half years available. Having said that, I donāt believe Silvio will stay here that long so it really is a moot point.
Are you sure about that? I think this half season would count as 1 season and he would have 3 left. I have never heard of anyone running out of eligibility midway through their season which would be the case if he used all of his eligibility.
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He would have 3-1/2 season of eligibility total (as he would forfeit the current first semester half) he would use the one half the second semester this season and have 3 years left after this season. He would only lose the current half season until he is eligible to play the second semester. Makes sense?
If he does not play this season he would have 4 full season of eligibility.
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@RockkChalkk This would count as his freshman season whether it was only a half a year or not - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 @JayHawkFanToo yep ok, thatās what I thought. I think the post could be read a few different ways which is why there was some confusion.
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KUSTEVE said:
@FarmerJayhawk We need a 4th big. We might not need him, but if we do, we could certainly do much worse
I think we absolutely will need him. If he can post up and rebound, he will be a difference maker. And obviously we could do far worse.
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Jo Jo White encountered this exact scenario and Ted Owens made a fateful delicious. White was old for his grade and came to KU in Dec. so if for some reason he stays 4 years, Bill would have to choose as well.
Due to his early enrollment, White had only one semester of eligibility and Head Coach Ted Owens opted to have White play for the 18 games in the first semester rather than eight in the second.[9] He graduated with a degree in physical education.[9]
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Uh make that decision.
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I wish Bill wouldnāt say the international pipe line being open is strange. ahem adidas still scares me. Not that I think the staff did anything wrong, but who knows what adidas did? If recruiting seems strange to the coach is that a red flag? Hopefully Iām just paranoid, as Iād hate to see any harm befall our beloved Jayhawks.
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@dylans KU didnāt do anything wrong directly, Iām fairly sure of that. Weād be foolish to believe absolutely nothing happened though. The outlook on Doke changed from āNike kid going to a Nike schoolā to ending up at KU.
The alternative was not recruiting top level players at all.
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@BShark does rhe signed loi bring the reclassification talk to an end?
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3genhawk said:
@BShark does rhe signed loi bring the reclassification talk to an end?
No. That still should happen and hopefully we find out this week.
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If it werenāt for Bill Self and the belief in his character, Iād actually be surprised if payoffs didnāt happen regarding Kansas, on that dusty, sweaty continent.
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Bill obviously thinks Silvio is an immediate impact and believes he should be a top five recruit if not for playing over in Africa. He would be the third big and would be a much better option than Mitch, who, bless his heart, doesnāt have the size to battle against athletic bigs and doesnāt do anything offensively. The dude can ball with the best of 'em.
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HawkChamp said:
Bill obviously thinks Silvio is an immediate impact and believes he should be a top five recruit if not for playing over in Africa. He would be the third big and would be a much better option than Mitch, who, bless his heart, doesnāt have the size to battle against athletic bigs and doesnāt do anything offensively. The dude can ball with the best of 'em.
Yeah, Self seems pumped.
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@Fightsongwriter I was thinking JoJo only played 1st semester of his senior yr.
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I remember seeing something on Silvio doing well in international ball. I think that was part of the reason he didnāt play AAU this past year right? Maryland wanted him bad and he has a solid base of skills to work with and refine. Heās a physical specimen, just like Big Dave. Self bringing the beef with the burgers next season
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Mechanically, all KU would have to do in a reclass would be to not hold him to his 18-19 LOI. Just receiving it has no impact.
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@Barney You were thinking correctly.
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This kid is fantastic, I love him already!
De Sousa said Monday he was elated to hear KU announced his signing to an official letter. āItās a pretty good feeling, amazing to sign with a school you like,ā De Sousa said in a phone conversation. āIāve been working on my game, doing it all my life (since he was 10 back in Angola). Just to get to know where Iām going to play at this level, itās a great day.ā He made just one official visit, choosing KU over Maryland and others. āI fell in love with the school,ā he said. āI didnāt want to be the type of guy to just go to four or five different schools to visit when you already know where to go. Once I got there it was amazing. In short answer, I would say Kansas is the best place to be. Itās like my dream school. I decided to make the dream come true,ā he added, noting his dad, who played professionally overseas, has long been a fan of KUās style of play. āThe coaches teach you things on and off the court,ā De Sousa said. āThey are tough on you in practices and games. They care about you.ā
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article184476478.html
Everything sounding good! Also of note he plans to stay beyond this season for sure, in case anyone was worried about that.
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Good stuff. Glad to have him and if he can join early an early bonus for the team and himself
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@BShark MAN - - -what a statement - - whew. - -love that, goes to show this kid knew what he wanted, saw what he wanted, and committed to what he wanted. - Sound like a bright kid love that.
Makes a lot of sense. Kind of like what I told my brother awhile back, sounds corny but I told him IF I would of been talented enough back in my playing day of basketball, to where I was blessed enough to be getting attention from the big boys? - -It would of been simple for me - -I would of told these Coaches, I thank you for your consideration and interest in me BUT donāt I donāt want to waste your time - -Iām going to KU period. - -Why would I say that? - -because like De-Sousa I love the school ā De-Sousa says he fell in love with KU - -good for him - I like that why waste these other schools time. - Yet when he committed we heard from some other fans - -OH well KU had to pay him money - something fishy KU is dirty lol. - -The kid fell in love with the School - -His dad right? - -has liked how KU ran things for years how about that lol.
After reading this - I just got even a more instant like for the kid then before - -think he is going to do great things for KU. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 Me too man, but I donāt think the staff would have been that interested in a 6ā1āā fat center like myself.
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BShark said:
@jayballer54 Me too man, but I donāt think the staff would have been that interested in a 6ā1āā fat center like myself.
Lol Ahhh, come on bud , I bet you were a terror on the glass right? lol. - -like sir Charles the round mound of rebound. I hear ya buddy - I got a nickname on the team all the guys called me BW - -as in bench warmer lmao - well not quite that bad I did play but ummm ya. - but like I said IF I would of been thatās what I would have done dead serious about that - -why waste a schools time right if you know lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Read of an article with De-Sousa his guardian still feels like it is very likely that De Sousa will end up here in December and possibly be ready to play around the 29th of December against Texas.
He says he feels like there will be no problem with his eligibility just have to wait for score to be revealed to De souse and his guardian and examined by KU & the NCAA.
His class graduates in December due to the fact he started in January It is his high Schools 8th semester - It just sounds pretty good - just have to wait.
His guardian if he played a semester for KU that he would be eligible for the NBA following but said he is not going to do that - -he is not ready- he wants to break some records he says lol. would sure be a help to the frontline this year. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 I think that is the same article posted by @BShark 3 hours ago.
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RockkChalkk said:
@jayballer54 I think that is the same article posted by @BShark 3 hours ago.
Correct.
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@RockkChalkk oooops. - - - still love it - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Looks like heās playing with JR High kids
https://twitter.com/HSBasketballBR/status/935703605956489216?s=09)
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Here are some answers from Jessie Newell on Preston and DeSousa. Hopefully the link works.
