Crootin Thread III, Wherein Some Players Probably Commit to KU
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Yeah I was going to say something about desperation but KU recently gave Evan Maxwell a scholarship for a semester sooooo
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Moore isn’t a bad player by any means, just won’t be available next year and it sounded like KU was the favorite for several other higher ranked targets.
Barring another transfer, I do like that he is a guy that will be at KU through his senior year, don’t see him leaving for NBA early. Need a few of those long term guys, most players on the roster will likely leave us in the waiting game to hear if they are back or not.
Also, seems like the biggest need right now is landing another post player, maybe this is the writing on the wall that Svi is definitely gone?
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Twitter isn’t running with this yet so not sure how valid that story was at the present moment
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@BShark Comment removed so not confirmable?
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The only higher ranked player now would be Duval (Moore is better than Allen and if Moore could play this year it wouldn’t even be a choice which to take), and I think the staff was told he isn’t coming here if this news is true.
Big if though. This is really weird. Might be fake news or something.
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Thomas Allen committed to Nebraska. I’d say the Moore thing is probably true, it just broke before he wanted it out there.
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Terrible decision but his to make.
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I would think it means there is no spot for him at KU.
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If the report on Moore becomes true here are some stats for those who are unfamiliar with him.
ESPN ranked him the #1 transfer today.
Freshman scoring record for a game at Cal with 38 against UC Irvine. He hit 15 FT’s in that game. 75% from the line on the year.
35% 3 point shooter, 38% overall FG %. Not great numbers but certainly can be improved.
3.5 assists per game, 2.9 turnovers. Typical of a freshman Point Guard forced into a starting role with not a ton of talent around him.
4 games over 20 points
5 games with 3 or more steals
9 games over 5 assists.
Averaged 10.3 pts vs ranked opponents (3 games against Oregon, 1 Virginia, 1 UCLA, 1 USC, 2 Arizona).
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True. I’m fine with not getting him but the poor decision is picking a terrible Nebraska team to play for
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Not if he goal is getting PT this year.
As for Moore, I like it if true. Makes Grimes the key 18 recruit by far. This also creates a nice situation where the staff isn’t heavily depending on the weak 18 class and allows the 19 class (where KU has a lot of ins) to be a focal point.
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True, they all want to play. I guess he doesn’t care about his team being any good.
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What’s the latest on Duval?
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Not KU.
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He went to Duke for a visit this week, then denied/lied about it on twitter.
He’s really enjoying the limelight
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Ok, so I’m a little confused , what a surprise right? lol. So Thomas Allen, this is the one that had originally committed to North Carolina St right? then changed his mind after Gottfried got fired? - -so it’s him that committed to Nebraska?- -I thought he was so sure fire about coming to KU, yet I had heard we hadn’t offered is that right?
The I read on here about Moore from Cal - -It was mentioned about if the story was true - -Has then been something from him about coming to KU? - Sorry but I’m not seeing where this is all coming from. If anyone can help me - -would greatly appreciate it. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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He was a slow roll. I would guess he didn’t have a commit-able offer.
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@BeddieKU23 Ya he loves the Media -said he was going to come up with something totally special that had never been done before for his announcement. One way or another I believe he said he was going to or hopefully make his decision towards the end of April - - -well we getting to the end of April, will there be ANYONE not be put on the paddles if he DOES NOT commit to Duke?
I again just don’t see when these kids know - -and I truly believe he HAS known for quite sometime as to where he was going to commit , I just don’t see why he doesn’t just go ahead and announce - -Again lets revert back to the lime light / social media - it has truly become a Circus. Same can be said for Kevin Knox - -I feel he too has also known for some time now, again a Circus - - he has even as much said he would make his announcement depending on media time/coverage availability. - - WHAAAAAAAA ?
On another subject has anyone heard anything more on Tilmon? I know he was I believe at Mizou last Friday & I also think Coach Self has had a visit with him - -Anyone heard any more since - - been pretty quiet since. If anyone knows fill me in please. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Duval has always loved the attention so there’s no reason for him to stop just yet. He’s been in Duke’s pocket for 4-5 months now.
No new news on Tilmon. Wonder what’s going on there.
I think the Knox situation has changed. I think there’s a strong sense he’s going to Missouri. The Duke people seem to think so as well.
Agree its a circus and we all play into by talking about them constantly.
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@BeddieKU23 Well your right thee. Definetly play into their hands by talking about them so much - - - - they love it. Also agree I think Know just might end up at Mizzou, hate em BUT will have to say if he commits there pretty dam good recruiting class ending up there.
So whz the deal with the Moore kid, can you give me any details? Has there been movement about him maybe being at KU or what? - - Thanks - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Moore is from Chicago. ESPN had him ranked #61, #72 on 247 in the 2016 class. He was originally committed to Memphis then a coaching change happened and he went to Cal. Solid freshman year. From what I’ve read he’s transferring closer to home, his father had a stroke in 2015 and is still recovering so maybe this is a move to be closer to him. Illinois was involved with him first time around and with them having openings I can see him taking a strong look at them.
He’s good enough to play at KU if that’s what ends up happening. Solid freshman numbers with obvious improvements to be made on FG%, turnovers etc, something a sit-out year and natural development could cure. His advanced numbers aren’t great, 13.6 PER and his usage was high for the amount of minutes he played. Cal wasn’t good even with a 1st round pick on their team. He was decent against ranked opponents, struggled some in conference play. I don’t think there was enough talent around him for him to be his best.
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Yeah this isn’t rocket science. Duval is at Duke (likely filming his commitment video) but denies it fervently because he wants to “keep it a secret”. Then it leaks that Moore has popped for KU, but it gets retracted, probably because Moore wants to announce the news himself. Then Allen announces for Nebraska.
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Definitely feels like Knox could end up at Missouri. Honestly, it could be his best option for playing time. Duke is pretty loaded, and UK is stacked with wings and combo forwards.
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@BShark I don’t think UK goes after or lands Baker if they felt good about Knox. At least that would be my guess.
That Mizzou team could be very talented, and yet be a very selfish team with little to no ball movement.
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Matt ScottVerified account @KUTheShiver 2m2 minutes ago
Charlie Moore tells me that he’s not sure where he’s going just yet. #kubball
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Boy what a recruiting year this has been, just seems we have either missed or forgotten or what but a lot of in committed players that went to other schools that we were on at some point or another.
Off the top - - from 247 sports - -# 3 Ayton - -# 4 Sexton- -# 5 Duval- - # 12 T Brown- - # 22 Young- -# 32 C Brown- -# 39 Tilmon- - #40 Waters- - # 122 Gak- - # 125 Wooten- - # 186- -Rufus, these are just off the top
Then weren’t we recruiting Matt Coleman also at some point? - -Some grad transfers - -some transfers - And yes even though not really heavily - -Allen. just frustrating were missing kind of goes to my point from yesterday -are we zeroing in on certain players - -TO MUCH? others getting away I dunno - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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KU never recruited Rafus and it was very brief with Gak.
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@jayballer54 Try to think of it this way, there are only 13 spots on the roster (scholarship spots) and when you subtract returning players, we can really only “win” on recruiting on a handful of players each year due to that alone. Don’t let the “misses” get you down.
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@BeddieKU23 I saw Moore play during his senior year. I didn’t know anyone on the court, but it was very clear right away that he was a very talented kid.
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Well this should come as NO SURPRISE to anyone , but was just on the Duke boards and looks like Trevon Duval is getting ready to formally announce going to Duke. - -Lots of talk they say on twitter about it. Some guy from NBA draft Express saying multiple sources telling him that Duval ready to announce his is committing to Duke. - -No surprise there. - -Hell most have known this for the last month but looks like finally coming to an end. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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What’s the latest on Moore? We sure could use him for in 18/19
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Ok, here is another question. With the very distinct probability of Jontay Porter committing to Mizzery to play with his Brother Michael - -Wouldn’t you think that would have a tendency for Tilmon to kind of look elsewhere? - -Jontay pretty decent player also I could very easily see him and Michael both in the starting line up just curious to see how that might effect Tilmon’s decision.
Going to be kind of interesting also even though not really thinking it will effect us in any way but surposedly Duval close to announcing for Duke - -BUT Mark Smith who is also a heavy Duke is going to announce tomorrow night at 6 - -both PG and heavy Duke see how that works out , - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I thought Mark Smith was between Illinois and MSU? But what do I know I don’t follow HS kids too closely until they sign with KU. I don’t get invested in a kid that’s not invested in me (with a KU commitment). It saves on a lot of grief.
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@dylans True. Smith is in on Michigan St and a lot seem to think that’s where he will end up. I should of said that Duke had been pushing on him hard lately and they were talking about him making his announcement tomorrow night. - -I don’t think they will lost to much sleep on him if he picks Michigan State and they end up with Duval. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 The fact that Duke even talked to Mark Smith is not a good sign for them though. As far as landing Duval that is.
Duval could still end up declaring Duke and playing overseas. Knox was offered $1.4M to play in China. Wouldn’t surprise me to see Duval offered something similar.
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If Jontay decides to reclassify and play with his brother I can see Tilmon having second thoughts. This is one time where nepotism might hurt MU.
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@JayHawkFanToo Jontay Did re-classify. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 I stand corrected - -Could of swore he did re-classify - -BUT not quite yet I guess , went back trough thought I had read where he had, but not yet - -but I think we all have a pretty good feel that he is going to. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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dylans said:
I thought Mark Smith was between Illinois and MSU? But what do I know I don’t follow HS kids too closely until they sign with KU. I don’t get invested in a kid that’s not invested in me (with a KU commitment). It saves on a lot of grief.
Looks like Illinois is the latest scuttlebutt.
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Well I see Duke offered McCormack and the cb picks rolled in ofc.
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@BShark Probably just guys trying to get big 247 points and move up the leaderboards.
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Seems like Duke has backed off Romeo Langford.
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@BShark I think he ends up at UCLA, Indiana, Louisville or KU. Just a hunch…
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Would love to see him at KU. Didn’t figure him as a realistic option when Duke was heavily involved. Indiana/Louisville/KU def all recruiting him pretty hard.
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Having visions of Langford and Grimes now. MERCY.
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@BShark I’m sure that a man wearing a polo with three stripes approached his momma about all the benefits of going to one of those top tier schools I listed… Probably coincided with the Duke cooling. But was completely random…
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BShark said:
Oh and https://twitter.com/chris_teahan11/status/856890224902909952
Invited walk-on? Connors brother?
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Correct on both accounts my man.
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Charlie Moore to KU, it’s official now.
