Underwood to Illinois
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Had to laugh at this one. Poor OSU
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So let the Bill Self to OSU rumors begin…
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What a chump. He probably sees it as a path to KSU after squeaky gets fired.
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Bill self ain’t going nowhere so we can knock that off
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I personally don’t think HCBS would ever go there, BUT you know the media will probably make it a story.
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@BeddieKU23 HOLY S***!!
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Is that really a better job than OSU? I guess maybe because of Chicago recruiting?
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@Hawk8086 was only getting 1 million
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@blackmild33 hopefully this media
Isn’t getting to him!
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Wow, he must not have liked it down in Stillwater. That’s crazy to me to leave that fast so now the kittens will be thinking he’s headed to ksu after Weber is fired in the next few years.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said:
@Hawk8086 only getting 1 million
I think he was only getting $1M at OSU and will double that at Illinois?
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@DCHawker That’s what ESPN said.
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@DCHawker I’m surprised that T Boone U didn’t pay more.
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One year at OSU? Jeeez. Job jumper alert.
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$1M for a starting coach was not bad. I am sure he would have had a substantial raise for the upcoming season. I wonder how long he had been talking to them since he jumped as soon as they were out…I bet the players feel pretty betrayed.
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@JayHawkFanToo He knew he couldn’t compete with Self, Huggins, & Lon. At least not in that BB Mecca called Stoolwater. More
at his age is a no brainer & with Chicago to recruit is like a full cookie jar at the fingertips. That’s what OSU gets for being cheapskates. Screwed again!
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@JayHawkFanToo said:
$1M for a starting coach was not bad. I am sure he would have had a substantial raise for the upcoming season. I wonder how long he had been talking to them since he jumped as soon as they were out…I bet the players feel pretty betrayed.
Happens alot with these coaches.
Seems it was definitely a money drive move
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I think he quit when he found out that Forte actually does have to leave sometime.
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His initial salary was not bad based on his background and I am sure it would have been raised considerably. Sounds like he did not like OSU. Maybe he is setting the stage to eventually go to KSU which would be difficult from OSU.
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@Lulufulu Agree ya, – me too. That just totally caught me off guard unbelievable. - What is the logic? - - More money? - -I would think Boone Pickens would want to say something about that. - -Well so is OSU’S program go right back in the crapper now? - -I wonder how that will influence Evan’s decision about entering the NBA ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@JayHawkFanToo said:
Link didnt work for me can you sum up?
@globaljaybird said:
@JayHawkFanToo He knew he couldn’t compete with Self, Huggins, & Lon. At least not in that BB Mecca called Stoolwater. More
at his age is a no brainer & with Chicago to recruit is like a full cookie jar at the fingertips. That’s what OSU gets for being cheapskates. Screwed again!Well…hard to blame him if that is the thought process.
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@globaljaybird Last thing I would ever accuse OSU admins of is being cheapskates. They did offer Self $10 mil/year. They paid Underwood what his background said he was worth and probably would’ve extended him with a pay bump if he kept improving OSU. Money is not why he left OSU because OSU can compete with anyone when it comes to salaries.
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I don’t blame Underwood a bit. Better recruiting area for sure.
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@mayjay Forte played for Iba, didn’t he?
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I read off the Okla St boards that Holder seems like is the problem. - -Underwood only getting little over a million & Illnois signed for 3.3 million for 6 years? - -They are HOT - -they are wanting heads, Underwoods head - -Holder’s head . - -Forming a lynch party. You know how it goes talking all kinds of crazy things calling Underwood a low life POS and all kinds of goodies.
Oh yes of course they already trying to find replacement and Self’s name comes up. - -Although those with logical heads all say no way - - which is true. - -They tried once before, - -Pickens pretty much opened his checkbook to try to get Bill and he said no. - -Someone said Marshal, I don’t think he would go there, total shock from Cowboy , fans. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@KUSTEVE you stop that lol. - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Crean to pokie state ?
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@KUSTEVE LOL !!
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Underwood = underpaid … and GONE !!!
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Yeah but that was the match made in Uncle Boone’s Heaven for an HOF coach—not Brad freaking Underpants…Let em hire da “pants on backerds” Gottlieb - same speed for da pokies… There ain’t
in Stoolwater cept Eskimo Joes & that’s a joke…
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@BShark Its money bro, All he made prior to to OSU was Asst $$$. If he doubled his salary its gotta be a hit …
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@globaljaybird Money was not the issue with Underwood at OSU. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-brad-underwood-illinois-coach-spt-0319-20170318-story.html
Only reason why Illinois would make Underwood one of the 10 highest paid coaches is to try and keep him away from KSU when that opens up next time Liberace misses the NCAA tournament. Next year will only be Underwood’s 5th as a D1 HC. While he’s been good, he’s not worth a top 10 salary yet.
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At least he won’t have to change his orange wardrobe.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Yep that’s why osu didn’t ante up
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I am not sure why the link quit working, I tested it several times. Here you go…
Kansas coach Bill Self has ties to both Oklahoma State and Illinois. So naturally, he was asked Saturday about Brad Underwood jumping from Oklahoma State to Illinois after just one year at the former school.
“I heard the news 10 minutes ago. It shocks me. I think it would shock most people, because obviously, Brad was on a roll, I thought, in Stillwater, and a lot of great things and transpired in the short time he’d been there,” Self said. “Without knowing any details, I don’t know what else to say. I mean, congratulate him and that’s certainly not discouraging to Oklahoma State from still moving forward. Because certainly the program is in better shape than it was a year ago. So I’m sure that they’ll — I don’t want to use the word recover — I’m sure that they’ll respond very favorably to this. It is a shock. You know, you see a lot of coaching changes across America, but very rarely do you see one after just one year. But Brad is a really good guy and does a great job. But from the outside looking in, it looked to me like OSU and Brad fit very, very well.
“Well, Illinois is a great basketball job. I was there,” Self continued. “There’s no other way to look at it. It’s one of the better jobs in the Big Ten if you look at recruiting base and institution location, exposure, budget. There’s a lot of things about it that are very, veryr attractive.”
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@JayHawkFanToo Illinois fans are still mad at Bill for leaving after only two years. They have been attacking him as hypocritical.
They conveniently ignore the fact that he left them loaded, letting Squeaky get credit for the championship game year.
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You know what they say…never marry the woman that cheated on her husband with you, she will eventually cheat on you too…
Underwood took the OSU job the next day after his previous school, Stephen F. Austin lost in the NCAA. This time he took the Illinois job the day after OSU lost in the NCAA and after flying back to Stillwater on the OSU plane after the game…good luck Illinois…
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@JayHawkFanToo what plane should he have flown back on?
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The charter plane with the team? Apparently he flew the OSU private plane.
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Underwood GONE? WOW…I’m truly shocked and its unbelievable. BUT, if Boone would give the bball program the love he gives the pigskin, maybe they could land a better coach.
OSU only 1m a year ? STUPID. Oh, and let the rumors end now. Bill Self is not going to OSU.
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@truehawk93 $1 mil/year for a guy in his 4th year as a D1 head coach isn’t ridiculous. That’s pretty much what he should have been earning given his achievements at SFA.
Underwood left OSU for the same reason Frank Martin left KSU amd it wasn’t because of money, it was because of a bad relationship with the AD.
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Most wins in first four seasons – Division I history
COACH RECORD SEASONS
Brad Stevens 117-25 2008-11
Shaka Smart 111-37 2010-13
Brad Underwood 109-27 2014-17
Everett Case 107-22 1947-50
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@Texas-Hawk-10 The lack of a good AD relationship may have kept him from trying to get a comparable salary to stay, but the money lured him away.
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You have it exactly right. He was making $1.3M at OSU which is about right for his experience. The main issue appears to be his relationship with the AD. He notified OSU after he accepted the Illinois job…he had no intention or desire to negotiate.
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The first thing that pops into my head… are there any recruits they have we could cherry pick?
I think Underwood had a problem with the overall environment of OSU. It just simply is NOT a basketball school.
I remember not too long ago when Ford was begging OSU students to attend games from their cafeteria. Just imagine that at Kansas?
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@drgnslayr But wouldnt you say OSU has more basketball history than IowaState? Henry Iba. Eddie Sutton. Jack Hartmann. Bill Self. I’d say OSU has more basketball tradition than KSU does, who has more than ISU.
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History? Yes.
OSU has football. And football is king. Hey… ISU coaches don’t have to go beg for student fans to show up. That was embarrassing.
ISU fans are into it… big time.
If I recall right… there were a lot of empty seats in Stillwater for their season-ending game with Kansas. And it was senior night! Seriously? Fans can’t show up for senior night playing Kansas?
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@drgnslayr Oh, I may have missed it. G-Iba Arena looked fairly full to me vs KU…
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@Texas-Hawk-10 You may be the D1 head coach salary man, but my guess is, he went for a kind of evaluation with the AD of OSU and they basically gave him a “sub-standard” eval. He likely had Illinois calling him at some point during the season. My guess is, out of respect for OSU, he gave them a chance to pony up something a bit more to his season finish. I think they held steady with a poker face, and held at 1m (to your point), and LOST. Stupid. I don’t care what you say, the man deserved more money, but OSU decided he wasn’t worth anymore as a “4th year D1 coach.” He was proven at SFA, and he provided some good games, showed some promise. You pony up something on good faith.
Your comment as “isn’t ridiculous” wasn’t too ridiculous to Underwood, hence he left. Also, some on this board are calling him some disrespectful names. The man earned my respect. He did more in his first year than Ford did the last 3-4 years at OSU. There’s more to this than money. The B12 lost a great coach. Yes, it was stupid of OSU to let him walk after 1m his first year. WOW, stupid move on OSU’s part. They will not find a better coach at ALL.
