Bill RE: Next Season



  • @BeddieKU23 We should have 5 or 6 ranked teams all season next year. And I’d bet that 3 or 4 can crack the top 10.



  • @Hawk8086

    Thanks, This will be updated when there’s information to add.

    Yes Self has to hit a home-run this spring and everything starts with the PG issue. There will be anywhere from 2-5 open spots depending on departures. That is a lot of open space he can offer to late signee’s/transfers etc.

    Ideally KU should get to 12 scholarship players for 17-18 and maybe find another sit-out transfer with as much upside as Newman/Cunliffe. Because looking further down next year Doke, Newman, Vick, Preston will have draft decisions.

    What guys sign with KU late and how returning players improve will determine a lot for next year. Newman/Vick/Doke will have to make big jumps



  • @Kcmatt7

    Will be interesting to say the least. With Baylor/WVU returning what looks like 3 starters each they will definitely be the biggest competition again.

    Is Baylor really that good without Motley? I would say no right now. Will be an experienced team though and Drew snuck in 2 red-shirt years from Vital/Jolly both Top 100ish kids.

    How will WVU do without Adrian? I have no idea how any of the transfers/freshman will be but I bet Huggins found at least one gem in that bunch.

    TCU looks like it could take the biggest jump forward. Brodziansky could be a 1st team All Big-12.

    Oklahoma should improve simply because everyone but Woodard will be back. Hard to replace Woodward though.

    The league might actually be down a bit. The league has been consistent this year with great PG play but next year we are looking at half the league with a new PG.



  • @BeddieKU23 My thoughts on OU are that they have the athletes on that team and I have faith in Kruger.

    TTU should surprise. I like their coach as well. Passion for the school feeds into guys. Especially seniors. Not to mention a couple of his newcomers should be able to play.

    I do think Baylor will be that good without Motley. Drew has been finding guys for that spot for years now. If there is one thing he knows how to do it is get big athletes on the block.



  • I’d call Garrett a CG. Otherwise agree with most points. Need a PG badly. Get Young or Duval and KU is a top 5 team.

    Ryan posted on the Phog that if we get Duval then it is thanks to Adidas.



  • @Kcmatt7

    It sure is hard to criticize Drew’s ability as a recruiter. He has always found great players, many not well known before coming to Baylor.

    Baylor continues to creep up in quality, a little at a time.



  • @drgnslayr

    His sneaky move was getting Vital and Jolly to red-shirt this season. Vital is a great athlete and Jolly was highly recruited wing originally committed to Cal. Drew gets these kids to invest in the long game and take full advantage of the sit-out year



  • @BShark

    Yeah I only did normal positions, Garrett is a unique player. I’d call him simply a player (utility type) that can play the 1-3. They don’t make 6’6 guards on tree’s that can run the point like him. I think that aspect is forgotten with him, Marcus has run point for years



  • @Kcmatt7

    Evans and Smith for Tech are studs. Next year I can see them taking another step. Not sure about the rest of the team though.

    Motley is a All-American candidate, if Baylor doesn’t skip a beat next season I’ll tip my cap to them.



  • @BeddieKU23

    Well, that is part of coaching. Drew seems to be good at recruiting and decent in developing players.

    It is hard for me to flip the switch and start respecting Drew, because I think he got to where he is the same way Cal did.

    And both Cal and Drew are at a success level now that they don’t have to rely on a bag of dirty tricks. As they start working with higher ethics they are both bound to win over a lot more followers.

    But what about coaches like Lon Kruger? He is a man of principles (and not just recently acquired). He has worked his butt off for a long, long time to get where he is today. He didn’t take any short cuts.

    Coaches like Lon help me keep the perspective on who I choose to respect.



  • @BShark

    Having seen the Duke board mention Marcus Keene as a possible grad transfer guard, got me thinking KU would definitely throw their hat after him. Can’t imagine he stays where he is, either leaving for the NBA or grad transferring. 30 point scorers don’t grow on tree’s. Would be an interesting get if all available options fail…



  • @BeddieKU23

    Talk about a kid that has fought his way up, started at Youngstown State. He looks like he would be a solid stop gap option.



  • @BeddieKU23 If we whiff on recruits, he would be a fantastic backup plan. Imagine the offense with him and Newman on the same team…



  • @Kcmatt7 @BShark

    I have caught a few of his games this year and he’s electric. The game winner he had the other night was a typical performance from him. Has some toughness and flair to him. He rebounds and passes the ball as well so its not like he’s getting 30 a night because he’s Kobe’sque shooting every night. He’s shooting 47% from the field on 21 fg attempts per game.

    He would be the most sought after transfer if he does go that way. It would be interesting to see how he transferred his ability to a Power 5 school though. Illinois is the best team they have played all year which isn’t saying much for his competition.



  • Chris Smith taking an official visit to UCLA.

    Will have to pay attention to him after if he doesn’t schedule other visits…



  • @BeddieKU23 FWIW, I have seen that we might have some interest in this Chris Smith, I personal don’t know much on him, haven’t kept up on what we are saying on him BUT - -FWIW, I just read that the last two CB’S from 247 predicted him to UCLA - -shows us up 60- 40 over UCLA but like I said they just gave the last two predicts to them. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • @jayballer54

    Seems like the smoke is for UCLA as they are getting him to visit this week. Wouldn’t be surprised if he commits



  • @BeddieKU23 ya, go figure. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • @BeddieKU23

    Someone smart said UCLA was in there too when KU and TCU were mentioned. Can’t remember who though, might have been Ryan Noel.



  • @BShark

    One of them did say that. Looks like UCLA was able to weasel the first visit.

    Not really sure why he’d go to them when they have Wilkes/Ball at SF coming in, plus Riley/Hill at the 4.

    I may have jumped the gun saying he would commit but there hasn’t been much talk about Smith and what his decision timeline was or if he was the type that would pop after 1 visit.



  • @BeddieKU23 I freaking love Keene. The guy is a monster.



  • @KUSTEVE

    Had a 40 point game again the other night. I believe he tied Adam Morrison for the lead in such games in a season. Crazy good



  • @BeddieKU23 I play in a little college fantasy basketball league, and you pick a lineup every week. The catch is you can only use the guy once. Keene was my first player used.



  • KU has offered 6’3 Combo Guard David Duke. Could possibly be a reclassify to 2017.

    Currently a 3-Star guard. Very athletic from video I found.

    Schools after him (KU) Nova, Cuse, UConn, Florida, and NCST.



  • @BeddieKU23 That isn’t a 3 star if those are the schools after him.



  • @Kcmatt7

    He is currently. He, athletically could be a 4 star. Being in the 18 class for right now but willing to move up in the right situation.



  • @BeddieKU23 Link to a tape?



  • @Kcmatt7

    on 247 ranked 173rd in the country. Switched schools to Cushing Academy this year a known D-1 producer.

    Another vid, his coach says he was 5’6 as a freshman and now pushing 6’4,6’5





  • Oh, great, David Duke might play for KU. Must have been recruited by the yell leaders who did that photo… (jk)



  • @mayjay

    I knew someone would be here with the reference!



  • @BeddieKU23 I saw the name and not the photo… I thought the original DDuke was just a faded nightmare until he became a recurring one this past year. PTSD!



  • @mayjay I’m afraid we’ll be hearing a lot more of the nightmare one of him.



  • @mayjay

    David Duke? I would have though he would be a MU lean…



  • @BeddieKU23 said:

    KU has offered 6’3 Combo Guard David Duke. Could possibly be a reclassify to 2017.

    Currently a 3-Star guard. Very athletic from video I found.

    Schools after him (KU) Nova, Cuse, UConn, Florida, and NCST.

    Want.



  • @BeddieKU23 said:

    @Kcmatt7

    on 247 ranked 173rd in the country. Switched schools to Cushing Academy this year a known D-1 producer.

    Another vid, his coach says he was 5’6 as a freshman and now pushing 6’4,6’5

    Lol at his ranking.



  • @BShark

    I don’t think many national people have seen him. He was at a small school before Cushing. If he doesn’t re-classify he’s probably one of those guys that just shoots up the rankings. Reminds of Vick in his situation.



  • @BeddieKU23

    I’d love for him to reclassify and then pick KU.

    And yeah I see it difficult for him to not be top 75 if he doesn’t reclassify. If he does the rankings are often done hastily so who knows. Would be a good get which is what matters.





  • @BShark

    The want meter just went up 100% after that 2nd video. He’s definitely a 6’4ish guard now.

    I see coaching has worked on his shot. In his soph film he dipped his head before going up, now you see the long release as one smooth transition.



  • @BeddieKU23 So is this kid a possibly safety net in pace of Young if we don/t land him? - -I see you say combo, but think we are good on combo next year aren’t we? - - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • @BeddieKU23

    I can see a lot of Vick in him…



  • @BeddieKU23 So, from watching my thinking maybe, another Devonte? - -Can shoot some outside jumper, - - drive the ball a little bit, makes some nice passes ? - -Devonte again? - - -Yes ? - -No ? - -Maybe?- -Just what I thought first glance.- - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • @BeddieKU23 Ya my meter went up to since the 1st one I saw, now not so much Devonte lol - - -looks pretty dam athletic. So do we think he might re-classify? - - Never ceases to amaze me how these names just keep popping up out of the woodwork, - this would be nice - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • @jayballer54

    No idea what option he is.

    Just sounds like KU is the latest program to enter the picture. The talk is he might be able to move into the 17 class in the right situation. If he doesn’t then he will be a heavily recruited 2018 option. I imagine the East Coast schools will have an advantage with him. He went from having offers from Brown and Rhode Island among others to KU, Nova, Cuse, UConn, etc. Tells you how much he’s improved his game.



  • @jayballer54 said:

    @BeddieKU23 So is this kid a possibly safety net in pace of Young if we don/t land him? - -I see you say combo, but think we are good on combo next year aren’t we? - - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

    I’d like to see KU get this kid even if Young picks KU. Should have the room but would he do it is another story.

    @BeddieKU23 said:

    @jayballer54

    No idea what option he is.

    Just sounds like KU is the latest program to enter the picture. The talk is he might be able to move into the 17 class in the right situation. If he doesn’t then he will be a heavily recruited 2018 option. I imagine the East Coast schools will have an advantage with him. He went from having offers from Brown and Rhode Island among others to KU, Nova, Cuse, UConn, etc. Tells you how much he’s improved his game.

    https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/new-england-s-david-duke-sees-stock-on-the-rise

    “From the point of having no offers, it has been motivation. I went through some injuries but I haven’t allowed for any of that stuff to hold me down,” the Cushing product stated as he then rattled off those remaining in touch with him the most often. “Creighton, Providence, NC State a little bit, Kansas talks to me every game day, Northwestern a lot and Rutgers.”

    EVERY GAME DAY. Article is a little over 2 weeks old.



  • Chris Smith to UCLA.


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