Bragg Suspended Again
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@Crimsonorblue22 REALLY REALLY DUMB - – something smells here, I know he says it’s not related. - you know like a friend of mine called me from California a couple of minutes ago and say WTF he says you know who I feel bad for and I agree - -I feel sorry for Frank, this being his Senior year and this is the way this plays out - -HOLY SHIT, I feel when this is all said and done - one of two things will happen - -Bragg will either be dismissed from the team - -OR he will. walk. - - I and some others feel there has to be something that has happened to this poor kid, something in his personal life, just doesn’t add up - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@wissox NO way Mitch will be able to step up - he tries but he is JUST NOT PHYSICALLY READY - -and Coleby shoot his legs are history - -NOT Good – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Crimsonorblue22 Wait a sec - -pretty sure it’s coming
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@DanR ummm have you seen Coleby? he is lucky to be able to play 5 little lone 15 - -his leg is still really messed up - -still dragging it - no way is he gonna be able to help. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Pull his scholarship tired of this crap. No chance we win Saturday. Damn it
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@jayballer54 Thx for the info. This game saturday will be the first game I watch all year. So Bragg has been a beast?
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@DanR Bragg has stank up the place but Coleby and Lightfoot haven’t looked good ether.
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@kjayhawks at least lt
Hustles
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If you follow what Coach Self says you would know that he is high on Lightfoot. Apparently he plays well In practice but has yet to take the next step up and deliver at game time. Once he does that he will be a contributor. Hopefully the team can take this setback and use it as motivation.
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@Crimsonorblue22 very true, I think he will end up a solid player but is years away.
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Let it play out. Understand It’s frustrating. No need to throw stones at least until facts are KNOWN.
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@kjayhawks this will get him closer.
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I’m not against this team struggling right now. They have been playing on cruise control for way too long… it has been killing our development.
We are going to get punched in the face on Saturday… how will we respond?
I have a lot of hope and faith in this team. We’ve had it way too easy until Morgantown. Morgantown exposed our “innocence.”
Time to get off the canvas and kick some butt!
NO EXCUSES!
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This team is like the knight in Monty Python that keeps getting limbs lopped off.
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Whenever life gets you down, Mrs.Brown And things seem hard or tough And people are stupid, obnoxious or daft And you feel that you’ve had quite enough
Just remember that you’re standing on a planet that’s evolving And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour That’s orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it’s reckoned A sun that is the source of all our power
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see Are moving at a million miles a day In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour Of the galaxy we call the ‘milky way’
Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars; It’s a hundred thousand light-years side to side; It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand light-years thick, But out by us it’s just three thousand light-years wide. We’re thirty thousand light-years from Galactic Central Point, We go 'round every two hundred million years; And our galaxy itself is one of millions of billions In this amazing and expanding universe.
Our universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding, In all of the directions it can whiz; As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know, Twelve million miles a minute and that’s the fastest speed there is. So remember, when you’re feeling very small and insecure, How amazingly unlikely is your birth; And pray that there’s intelligent life somewhere out in space, 'Cause there’s bugger all down here on Earth!
Eric Idle/Juan Du Prez
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I just feel sick to my stomach about this team, have played like crap half the time and all these distractions I bet we end up losing 4 straight and 13 straight ain’t gonna happen. First round loss in the NCAAs.
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@kjayhawks I can imagine how self and the team feel.
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Let’s take a chill pill.
This seems worse than it may be because of the incident a month ago that turned out to not be Bragg’s fault. He was in the wrong place with the wrong person at the wrong time… but he was exonerated.
Then there is the rape case that recently cast a cloud over the whole team because of the location and the involvement of the team as ‘witnesses’. We don’t know what that means, but that’s presumably not Bragg’s fault.
As I read today’s news, it sounded like this incident was a violation of team rules… He might have been late for the bus and caused a delay… Maybe he cut classes… we don’t know.
That’s a lot of crap to sift through, but after all is said and done, it’s just one violation for Bragg. Most players get more than one strike, unless it’s really egregious.
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PHOF!!!
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See ya Carlton.
I have no problem saying your done here.
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@JayHawkFanToo Agree, the only thing I was trying to point out is " That Physically " Mitch can’t hold his ground right now. - I like the kid, I think he will be a rally good 4 year player for us. He might surprise me, this is not a negative against him, it’s just he needs a year with Hudy I feel to be able to add some bulk. Other then that, the little amount of time he has been on the floor I think he has been ok and will continue to improve with more playing time, which is here for him now. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I like the way Lightfoot looked last game. great tip in, several good rebounds. Remember, he doesn’t have to replace alot.
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He’ll have to play bigger then he is especially in the next 2 games.
My question stands here. If Mitch or Dwight were ready to step-in why has it taken 20 games and a suspension to get there. As you said its not like Bragg has played well where his game can’t be replaced. Mitch in the last two games has started to show some hint of improvement. Dwight has sat so many games its hard to expect anything other than his 5 fouls.
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@Blown Great poem, and wise words to pause and let it work out. However, from history when Bill says “violation” of team rules, it seams that generally means we never find out exactly what is was and it is Bill-speak for " pack your bags son, you have pushed me past the limit"
I hope I’m wrong and CB can get it back together. It does seem like the articles with his name and the term "drugs (or drug pariphinalia) " continue to surface. That is not good. Guilty by association? Maybe. Where there is smoke there is fire. Perhaps.
I do know never in a million did I think this sort of crap is what we’d be talking about with this team.
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If Mitch can rebound the ball on the defense, and snag an occasional off rebound, he’ll be better than Bragg for our team.
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@kjayhawks Not looking good, have to agree the streak I think is in real jeopardy, this could be a very long bad stretch. Time to circle the wagons, play with pride and even more determination. It’s just that we can not get in ANY kind of foul trouble, just no one to fill in. - -If Mitch can just give us a few him and Mitch maybe, maybe we can work through this. I mean it’s not like Bragg was a scoring machine, we was ALREADY getting our point production elsewhere. We just need Mitch and Dwight to eat up some minutes try to get some rebounds if Lucas gets in foul trouble - -I’m just trying to get some kind of positive take- any take other then negative out of this. I bet Baylor - -WV and others are licking their chops right about now like a pack of wild dogs circling for the kill and our streak. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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When you begin to see stories like this, then you have to wonder if this is the last we see of CB:
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/jan/26/tom-keegan-bragg-suspension-might-equate-addition-/
Sounds like marijuana, if you read between the lines. Playing with a “clear head”?
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@BeddieKU23 said:
He’ll have to play bigger then he is especially in the next 2 games.
My question stands here. If Mitch or Dwight were ready to step-in why has it taken 20 games and a suspension to get there. As you said its not like Bragg has played well where his game can’t be replaced. Mitch in the last two games has started to show some hint of improvement. Dwight has sat so many games its hard to expect anything other than his 5 fouls.
They aren’t ready, but one or both will have to play now. Sucks.
@BeddieKU23 said:
See ya Carlton.
I have no problem saying your done here.
Wouldn’t break me up inside. KU will be okay next year in the post if it’s Doke/Preston/Lightfoot/random late recruit.
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@KUSTEVE I’m kind of wondering but I sure don’t want to get that started but I did wonder that MAYBE it was him that has the drug paraphonia sorry about the spelling but hope you get the jest at McCarthy? - -ya I know Coach said this wasn’t related BUT still makes me wonder? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@KUSTEVE I read there’s nothing upstairs!
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Losing Bragg stinks. Now there is no backup height. Coleby is mentally shot and Lightfoot is 6’5" tall trying to play the post in D1. I love Lightfoot mentality, but his frame is too short and light. The loss of Bragg wouldn’t be nearly as big without the loss of Dok.
As it is now our guys whom Bill says are already distracted by the rape investigation are now distracted by Bragg. Hope they snap out of it and focus only on the game at hand. That’s the best way thru distraction/turmoil -do your job and do it well.
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@dylans Kentucky people saying they think that this will just make Ku come out and play our butts off. That things like this gets team to rally around. Some saying they wish we would been at full strength, some saying actually what did Bragg bring to the table other then 5 fouls. - Not as bad mouthing as what I thought they would be laying it out. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@kjayhawks @BeddieKU23 I understand it seems like he is off the tracks. But the first incident wasn’t really his fault. He put himself in a bad situation, sure. But he was found innocent so lets not hold the first incident against him.
This is more of the fact he has been playing like crap. Neither of you would say that if it was Frank or DG or JJ. Bragg is part of the KU family and we need to support him. I’d rather us slap him on the wrist and keep him on the right path then just say screw it and let him go completely off the tracks. We don’t even know what he did. So how is it fair to judge him?
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I hope Bragg has not gone all Brannen Green on us. He seemed to get quite a few warnings before being pointed to the exit.
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So…he is suspended indefinitely which means he will be back for the Baylor game, right? After all Duke has established “indefinite” to mean 1 game and Duke and Coach K are the ultimate authority according to ESPN and the MSM…right?
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@JayHawkFanToo Hard for me to envision Bill Self falling into the wimpy footsteps of Coach K regarding “indefinite suspension.” I would say that CB is out for at least two games. Not knowing what this suspension is all about, and not having viewed Carlton’s commitment in practices, I still have watched him closely in recent games. The kid has been offered the opportunity to bounce back from his late night goofball involvement in the “girlfriend fracas” several weeks ago. His value on court appears to rank as about a 6 on a 10 pt. scale. He might not return to this squad for the duration…although I suspect that he, like Greene, will get ONE MORE CHANCE. His tenure at KU is in deep jeopardy.
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Replace Bragg with Tyler Self. At least he’s smart and hustles.
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But, but, but…isn’t Duke supposed to be the gold standard according to the main stream media?
I guess the sarcasm in my previous post did not come through…
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@REHawk said:
@JayHawkFanToo Hard for me to envision Bill Self falling into the wimpy footsteps of Coach K regarding “indefinite suspension.” I would say that CB is out for at least two games. Not knowing what this suspension is all about, and not having viewed Carlton’s commitment in practices, I still have watched him closely in recent games. The kid has been offered the opportunity to bounce back from his late night goofball involvement in the “girlfriend fracas” several weeks ago. His value on court appears to rank as about a 6 on a 10 pt. scale. He might not return to this squad for the duration…although I suspect that he, like Greene, will get ONE MORE CHANCE. His tenure at KU is in deep jeopardy.
Doesn’t offer much on defense, would think he’d be the type to do well against Baylor with his midrange jumper but JJ has that position on lockdown. And Bragg can’t pass out of the post nearly as well as required. The game moves too fast for him still. Hopefully next year.
Meanwhile, we’ll do fine without him at home against Baylor. He sits at least 2 games.
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If it has to do w/school work, it may be over if he gets caught up or takes care of business. Didn’t that happen w/BG for the ou game? 2 years ago, there? Perry was hurt too.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Would seem unlikely it is a school work issue, as the semester just started about a week ago, right?
My speculation which is 100% speculation is that there is possibly a connection in the drug paraphernalia found during the rape investigation and this suspension.
I watched Self’s presser yesterday as well as Hawk Talk Radio. He seems to be very distraught/concerned about this investigation.
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“I just feel sick to my stomach about this team, have played like crap half the time and all these distractions I bet we end up losing 4 straight and 13 straight ain’t gonna happen. First round loss in the NCAAs.”
Come on… get it together. That’s the noise of the purple kitties. You’re a Jayhawk. We don’t go down without a fight… and the fight has just begun.
We just took a jab from the Mountain boys. No big deal. All they do is make us focus every year and play better.
You never win a trophy without taking some punches.
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Well I read now where there is the drug case pending and they have notified the individual for a court date but didn’t release the name. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Blown When are grades reported? It’s been 40 years for me but i seem to remember first week or two of second semester but I assume technology has improved that.
My speculation is that I don’t have enough information to speculate about Bragg. From comments Self has made I think he does not have all the information he needs about the investigation himself. That would leave me in his place distraught and concerned, also ready to smack down anyone that steps out of line in any way.
As far as the investigation goes I believe if a player was directly involved the name would have been released by now. That is what happened with Bragg in the last incident. Public figures tend to be named early on while others are often not until charged. I hope this is sorted out quickly and accurately for all concerned.
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@Kubie Grades reported from last semester would have likely happened weeks ago. I can’t speak specifically to KU right now…but in other institutions grade were posted a few weeks after the end of the last semester which was Mid December.
And you are right; it is not fair to Carlton to speculate.
Self seems more upset about this incident, to me, than he let on when charges were pressed against Carlton the first time around. There seem to be “unknowns.”
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Again, unless you know for a fact it is a KU player, why even bring it up? I bet you a million to one that every single dorm at KU has lots and lots of drugs and drug paraphernalia and it is not a big deal anymore…in some states is not even a misdemeanor anymore. It was that way when I went to school a long, long time ago and it is even more prevalent now,. Should every student living in any dorm be considered a suspect just because there are some potheads living there as well? I think not and neither should be the basketball team players.
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@Blown he was really po’d w/that reporter asking if he was covering info!! I was too. If it was drugs wouldn’t he already have sat him? Meaning he already knew? I’m grasping here
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You have it right. The presser was streamed live on Facebook and I watched most of it and Coach Self reacted very strongly to the insinuation that there might be a cover up; I have never seen him that upset, he really took it personally. I will guess that whatever the deal is with Bragg was learned after the press conference and Coach Self did not know about.
KU has a group of volunteers that is at every class players take making sure they go to class, so the coaching staff knows immediately if a player has or is cutting classes. If a player like Perry Ellis, which is/was an outstanding student, cuts a class or two it probably would not be a big deal, but if a student that is not dong well cuts classes, it would be since it could potentially affect eligibility and program academic goals. I know a few of the KU players are academic all conference but I don’t have information on Bragg’s academic standing, so I could not say one way or another.
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@drgnslayr oh you never have to worry about me giving up man. I’ve been rock bottom more than once, I would’nt wish my life on my enemies. I’ve never been out worked or huslted bye anyone…ever. The trouble is I ain’t in a Jayhawk uniform, tell that to our boys. I call like I see it my friend.
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@Crimsonorblue22 above the shoulders or in the building?
