Posts made by BigBad

@SlimShaddy54 said in The portal.:

@TYOHawk Do we remember who Frank and Devonte both were recruited by BEFORE Coach Self started recruiting them.–Most of the Schols were those so called schools recruiting them BEFORE SLEF was mid major.-- Then you have idiots that said Self couldn’t develop players.-- sure look like they became much , better players AFTER they had been here for some years

Development now is 6 months. Which is FAKE. In reality these guys are not developing anyone, they are just good at quick roster builds.

@kjayhawks said in The portal.:

Comparing guys like Jackson whom was drafted to a guy like KJ that likely is done with basketball is laughable. KJ and Juan are great guys and would’ve been fine serving in back up roles. I’ve always said KJ should’ve been a Mitch Lightfoot type of player. RusRob I think is somewhat comparable to Juan but was better defensively. Collins played plenty very similar to Remy in the 2022 tournament they pretty much went 50/50 for PT.

I’m comparing FAN REACTION. Cole had WAY more upside than Kaun or Jackson. The modern fan would ABSOLUTELY be annoyed when Kaun missed a layup or Jackson couldn’t shoot beyond 15’.

@TYOHawk Just start the Fire Bill Self thread.

No Diggy no doubt

https://x.com/MSwain247/status/1906695878737276962

@TYOHawk said in The portal.:

We are partly in this position we are in because Bill was loyal to mediocre players who should’ve largely been recruited over. I don’t care if they stay 4 years if they’re bad players. I consider Joel a Jayhawk just as much as I consider Jalen Wilson one. It’s easy to tell these kids to turn down millions for our satisfaction but that’s not reality.

Does anyone consider this: DeJuan and KJ came to Kansas BEFORE NIL. DeJuan was a kid Self didn’t really want anyway. He comes from a horrible upbringing and does not have the academic background. Works his butt off in a redshirt year and then helps Kansas win a title. KJ is another hard worker who lost his mom to cancer while at Kansas.

Yet some of you act like its insane for Bill Self to show loyalty to two kids who basically represent everything he believes in.

If we had the 2008 team this year 90% of the young dumb fanbase would be crying about Darnell Jackson and Rus Rob. Coach is stupid man! he needs to play Sherron and Cole more or they will transfer! At least that argument would have been about actual studs on the bench. The idea that Flory and Coit/Moore were somehow going to take this team to the promise land was fools gold anyway.

@drgnslayr said in The portal.:

This is going to make you sick…. Duke seems like they have D1 figured out. I hate that school.

What is working for Duke? Signing FOUR top 20 recruits last year including the overall number 1 guy? They’ve done this crap for years. Cal made final fours too.

There were people around here crying that we needed more one and dones when that was “the thing to do”.

The idea that you want a coach who has 25 years of success doing something to instantly change is hilarious.

There is no formula he can change to guarantee success now. It’s all over. If people want to point out Duke as the “formula” then you have to overtake them at ESPN and other media to become the darling.

I’ve moved beyond thinking this is college basketball anymore and I suggest the rest of you do the same.

You are cheering for an AAU team with a college name on the jersey. You are cheering for a bank name on the floor of the court.

Have fun watching Peterson play one season. If that is what you are interested in you could have watched him this year on youtube. Oh, he will wear a Kansas jersey for a year and he’s a lifetime Jayhawk!! Do any of you consider Embiid a Jayhawk? He’s the poster child for all this crap. The dude is nonstop injured(including at Kansas) and only cares about maximizing his bank account.

I’m sure I’ll watch the games next year but only because I have a 15-year-old son who will turn them on.

I’ve said this here before and obviously, my opinion and/or fandom doesn’t matter but when Bill Self retires I’m out.

There it is…Passmore

https://x.com/TravisBranham_/status/1906500333917843924

I have basically no interest in minor league sports. Especially one that changes the entire roster yearly. What a complete mess this has all become.

I just think Bill had a massive soft spot for KJ and DeJuan and didn’t recruit over them. I kind of give the guy a pass. KJ lost his mom to cancer while at Kansas and DeJuan had a rough childhood. The roster is now a complete redo. Bill has a chance to right the ship quickly with Peterson, Flory, and some transfers. If he cant compete next year it may be time.

@kjayhawks No he isnt. Self is still a great coach, he just struggled with roster construction the last couple of years. Hunter was an awful add if you are going to start KJ and Dejuan. You had to surround KJ/DeJuan or Hunter with shooters. Instead he played all 3 and added Storr who is a slasher and needs space and is a streaky shooter at best. Griffin to me is the red flag. He is a player that Bill Self would NEVER recruit. I’m still shocked he was on the team.

@approxinfinity said in Third 2025 basketball season:

Zeke showed up but ran out of gas. We really need one more scorer.

If one of Storr or Rylan would show up each game it would have helped all year.

Sigh….

Everything is insane. Kansas has a down year and bill self releases a statement. St. John’s wins a REGULAR season title and act like they win the national championship

https://x.com/stjohnsbball/status/1895974443127882013?s=46

I live in Ohio, and I’m sorry, but it’s become obvious to me that a LOT of Kansas fans under 30 are spoiled brats. I think the fact that they are also Chiefs fans makes this worse. They haven’t really experienced losing, so they can’t handle it. Mix the age, the keyboard warrior mentality, the media-driven modern win it all or you are just a loser narrative, and it’s a mess.

@wissox said in Man is KU is really going to stomp Colorado tonight!:

It’s seeming the lightbulb is at least warming up for Rylan.

He was way more decisive on the catch.

You can tell the coaching emphasis is ball movement and player movement.

@kjayhawks said in Tonight's game:

@BigBad Self having zero accountability for this roster is laughable. We have 3 or 4 years guy…… they SUCK! We gave away 2 good recruits to get Hunt that would be 3 year players right now and are better than Hunt/KJ most nights. Hunt was lazy as hell last year but still brought back. AJ Storr is on is 3rd school in as many years and a known to half ass it. Self wanted him and he’s here.

“ZERO accountability”

What do you want? Him to be fired today? Send back his salary? What exactly? You don’t think the guy is embarrassed? He’s insanely competitive but all of his characteristics that make him a great coach don’t fit the transfer portal and soft kids era.

I’m not naive and understand the end is near. However, I believe he deserves more respect then what some people are showing.

@dylans Not to mention Indiana

@rcjhdraft

This is a coach who built the program around developing 3 and 4-year guys and mixing in stars. He’s done this for TWENTY years. The 3 and 4 year guys were pushed hard and the strong survived and then thrived. So now we are expecting him to change and get guys turned around in 6 months? Not going to happen. You can call that “archaic” if you want that’s fine. Or you can get into playing shooters over bigs. None of that matters. What matters is the game is now about mercenaries and you need AAU style coaches. 1-2-3 Family chants are an absolute joke. 100% of these kids would bail on their “family” for a bigger payday.

@rcjhdraft said in Tonight's game:

@BeddieKU23 said in Tonight's game:

Self mailed in the game starting 3 bigs. That was a new low for him

It’s looking like 2 straight seasons of Self mailing it in after it looks like the team doesn’t have it. Pretty embarrassing given his wage.

What about the players “wage”? GTFO! Self at least has earned his over YEARS of work and success. He’s proven he cares. These kids have proven NOTHING.

Those boys straight up quit! I’m sure glad they are getting paid now.

@dylans said in Fair Weather Fan: You need the program builders in place first.

The transfer rules have made the coaching staff and the players themselves too impatient to stick around and DEVELOP.

The whole thing is a mess. If the transfer rule remains, the most “successful” coaches will be like AAU coaches. They will be the best at identifying the mercenaries that will fit together well for one season.

Once Bill Self is gone so am I. I’m 50 years old. I played JUCO in the early 90s, watched the heyday of college ball, and saw Kansas win 3 titles. I won’t miss what all of this has become.

@SlimShaddy54 said in KJ Adams:

@BeddieKU23 100 % correct, they feel they haven’t been given a decent chance - - now here is the time for them to prove themselves, show that they can.

People who say this have never coached a day in their life.

Do you understand the “first or second mistake” you want Self to let them play through is more like the 100 and 101st mistake Self has seen from them including practice?

All you "The game has passed Bill Self by"guys…HAHAHAHAHAHAhah

@nuleafjhawk I’m a chargers fan so I can tell you it’s becoming obvious chiefs fandom arrogance and rediculous expectations are leaking over into Kansas basketball.

@kuballin10 Ok man. I for one NEVER bought into the #1 ranking. I also understand you don’t win titles year after year, hence I don’t get upset like you do.

@Crimsonorblue22

Man, this thread…

People bashing Self and somehow it’s all on him?? These fn players get PAID NOW. How about STFU, quit pouting, and do what the coach says? You know the coach who knows what it takes to win.

I made my third trip to Kansas for the UNC game from my home in Ohio this season, mostly because my son who’s 14 enjoys it. The Fieldhouse and Coach Self are the main draws now because the players change yearly in the NIL era so it’s not for them anymore. Seeing Mayo, the local kid, have a great game that night was refreshing. I’ve loved college basketball for a long time, but all of this is getting toxic and tiring. Once Self retires I’ll probably lose interest.

My son and I made a last minute trip from Ohio for this game. Our first time back since 2020 senior night. It was an awesome night in the fieldhouse. Such a great environment.

@dylans said in Furphy:

That NBA teams think he is ready surprises me. Furphy absolutely sucked in the second half of pretty much every game he played at KU.

While Furphy at times completely outclassed the entire roster, if he truly leaves he will be the least accomplished OAD in KU history. Furphy helped KU to its worse record since they were on probation in 1989 and he did absolutely nothing at an elite level. I’d love to watch him continue to develop at KU, but if he’s going to go pro I wish him the best in Europe or wherever he ends up.

The NBA draft is like the MLB draft now. It is all based on potential, not what they are currently.

As far as the “the least accomplished OAD in KU history” , Cheick Diallo will never be matched!

KJ somewhat reminds me of a more athletic Darnell Jackson. Self loves those type of guys no matter their non-fit to the modern game.

Big 12 is a step up from the Summit League. We had high hopes for Timberlake as well. People that look at shooting percentage and assume it translates, have never played the game. Every level change is an increase in game speed. Being sped up ruins the flow you are used to in your shot. I’d bet only the special ones can make the jump in levels seamlessly in one season. Let’s hope Mayo can!

@kjayhawks said in Sams club game chat:

@mayjay I’m still mad we played UCLA in California in 2007.

I bitch about that at least 2x a year!

I thought UNC got screwed this year. Arizona is the 2 in the west.

I love everything Juan has done for KU but 5 years is too much. Imagine Tyshawn Taylor getting a 5th year. It would be more of the same. But he is one of Self’s favorites so he’s not going anywhere.

Lets Goooooooooooooooooo

@kjayhawks said in BYU Thread:

@BeddieKU23 I’m gonna ask a Honest question here, is this Bill Selfs worst coaching job? This team has 2 all-Americans likely, 3 draft hopefuls and a Cousy award finalist. In 2019 we had no talent and 2015 we had super young talent. I think this team may end up worse than those 2, tho on paper should beat those teams by 25 points.

What has always made Self’s “bad talent” teams still win was the continuity of players in the program who learned to play defense. Even if a guy wasn’t that talented on offense by the time he saw significant playing time he was already molded by Self and co. to bring it on the defensive end and understand team defense. Like Self has always said, “You have to be able to win games while not hitting shots”. Four players(Hunter, Timberlake, Furphy, Elmarko) have played significant playing time this year are first-year guys at Kansas. Add that to the lack of a consistent three ball on offense and this is the result.

It’s time…and maybe this lights a fire in Elmarko. ZERO shot attempts in a road conference game was unacceptable.

I had a great time. Indiana fans are always gracious and really know the ball. It was a great atmosphere even though the students’ last day of classes was Friday. My spoiled son has been to Allen(2020 Senior Night), Rupp(last year), and now Assembly Hall.

Was a great game to be at!!

Let me know. My son(13) and I will probably get there around 11:00

Yep…I live just North of Dayton Ohio so its only 2 and a half hours away.

Well, I bought tickets for Saturday’s game so I guess I’m officially BACK!!!

LOL

@chriz said in Anyone else feel this way?:

I thought it was just me. Honestly I lost a lot of interest when Mahomes started playing for the Chiefs. I only have so much sports attention to go around.

I’m a Chargers fan so I have only enough sports pain to go around…LOL

Kansas was usually my respite.

@MoonwalkMafia said in Anyone else feel this way?:

I think this is kind of a wild take. We are a year and a half removed from a bunch of kids (that were 3 and 4 star recruits) from the KC area winning a national championship at KU! Two of them are starters on this years team! I’m also pretty sure that Ochai, McCormack, and Jalen Wilson all graduated. Dajuan Harris and KJ Adams will graduate, and if Christian Braun hasn’t already, he will.

I actually think that team has made all of this worse for me. It seems like it was officially the end of it and we at least got to see it culminate in a championship. It was awesome and it’s never going to be like that again

@FarmerJayhawk Nice job labeling an entire sport’s history by bringing up maybe the top recruit of all time. Obviously, there has been a wink-and-nod type of thing with the absolute top guys forever. I’m talking about recruiting kids that actually want a degree, and actually love the school. I’m aware you cant fill a roster full of Lightfoots and local studs like Braun and Ogbaji but it would be nice to have a few.

If Im going to watch pro sports, Id rather watch the best of the best and have moved towards NBA.

This is the first year in almost 40 that I’ve lost interest. I didn’t even watch the Kentucky game. I really like Harris but other than him I just don’t care. This isn’t COLLEGE basketball anymore. None of these kids actually care about the school, the team, a free education, or anything else outside of their bank account. Am I supposed to cheer for Dickenson this year because Kansas outbid everyone for him? Am I supposed to follow “recruiting” which now is just a kid deciding on Nike or Adidas and THEN picking a school? Am I supposed to cheer for kids who would bolt on this team for a better payday in a heartbeat?

I’m sure I will watch Maui because I’m off work this week but I’ve just lost the feeling I used to have for this team and this sport.

This is a MASSIVE low point for me with this transfer/NIL stuff. If it is like this yearly I’m going to have a real hard time watching this.

I think NBA will have to start looking at this. It could be long term tampering if you think about it. If when a free agent Cuban would have an edge.