NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?
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@bskeet said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
@jayballer73 Yeah… I heard it too. Just seems premature to make such a drastic decision.
Jay Bilas is talking about a possible reason for cancellation could be due to contractual and insurance issues the NCAA has.
Another probable factor would be the logistics of trying to rebook venues in a couple of months down the road when many of those venues are also probably going to be trying to squeeze in NBA and NHL games as well.
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We are all going to wonder for the rest of our lives whether this was the year we win it, Selfs second championship. What if, what if, what if. We had a pretty damn good shot this year didn’t we? Great defense, best point guard, arguably best big man, a well-balanced well coached core of team guys. And it wasn’t like there was another monster NCAA team that were better really.
What stunningly incredible bad luck. We will get through this virus, but it will take a few months probably, then hopefully we are wiser about epidemics, and can get on with our lives again. But we will always always wonder what if.
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@mayjay said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
So, is anyone thinking KU should have just caved and accepted a postseason ban this year?
Hell no, KU needs to raise a national championship banner for this year since we were the unanimous #1 ranked team in the final poll this season. Give the NCAA a middle finger since there’s no chance in hell the NCAA wouldn’t have the balls to declare Kansas and South Carolina the men’s and women’s national champions this season.
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Leave it to the NCAA to make a decision that is questioned and criticized by many people.
I mean, look at all the other organizations that have made decisions in the last 24 hours which seem to be universally supported… And then the NCAA does this.
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This title feels so damn empty. I feel so shitty for all the seniors that worked so hard to get to this point and now it’s just… over. Goes for baseball, softball, track, basketball. The NCAA should do the right thing and give them all an extra year if they want and waive the scholarship cap for a year so no HS kids get left out in the cold.
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They could have moved the midwest regional to AFH. It’s been hosted there in the past. I think they could have found the venues… but yeah, media contracts and the insurance liability… I’m sure it’s all very intricate. But super disappointing.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
This title feels so damn empty. I feel so shitty for all the seniors that worked so hard to get to this point and now it’s just… over. Goes for baseball, softball, track, basketball. The NCAA should do the right thing and give them all an extra year if they want and waive the scholarship cap for a year so no HS kids get left out in the cold.
100% agree with this. Also a great way to get a lot of athletes started in masters programs as well if they did something like this.
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Another heartbreaking story is Doke. The only way he was going to get to see his mom this spring was if KU reached the Final Four and could pay for his mom to fly in from Nigeria. I’d love to see the NCAA waive this rule for a one time exception and allow KU to fly Doke’s mom in for his graduation.
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@bskeet said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
They could have moved the midwest regional to AFH. It’s been hosted there in the past. I think they could have found the venues… but yeah, media contracts and the insurance liability… I’m sure it’s all very intricate. But super disappointing.
Hotel capacity in Lawrence is why AFH doesn’t host games anymore. As many fans that travel to the NCAA Tournament now, cities that host games have to have the hotel space and Lawrence doesn’t have the hotel space. That’s a big part of the postponement issue as well.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
Another heartbreaking story is Doke. The only way he was going to get to see his mom this spring was if KU reached the Final Four and could pay for his mom to fly in from Nigeria. I’d love to see the NCAA waive this rule for a one time exception and allow KU to fly Doke’s mom in for his graduation.
Hope KU still has it!
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@Bosthawk I posted on here a few days ago that, for the first time in my life, I believed we would win it all if we stayed healthy. Healthy, meaning not injured. I haven’t seen a team anywhere that could stay with us with a healthy Doke and Dotson.
I’m pretty sure the NCAA invented this virus to keep KU out of the limelight. (not really, but it feels good to say it)
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The men’s and women’s basketball tournaments have been canceled.
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Another potential issue with postponing the NCAA Tournament is how many teams would be missing players because of those players focusing on the NBA Draft at that point. Would Doke and Dotson play at that point in May or would they already be off campus at some training facility getting prepared for the NBA Draft Combine.
There’s just too many factors involved to feasibly host the NCAA Tournament in May.
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Disney is shutting down Disneyland in California until the end of the month. We’re going to end up like Italy in shutting down the country at this point to slow the rate of infection and not overwhelm our healthcare facilities.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
Disney is shutting down Disneyland in California until the end of the month. We’re going to end up like Italy in shutting down the country at this point to slow the rate of infection and not overwhelm our healthcare facilities.
hate to say it - - but your right my friend , just sucks gonna be almost a stand still, STILL gonna get worse with more cases and deaths - - period
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Now 1400 cases of Corona and 37 deaths
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Several school districts here in Houston have started postponing classes for the next week.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
Several school districts here in Houston have started postponing classes for the next week.
All of Ohio down for the next few weeks. Chapel Hill-Carrboro will postpone starting Monday.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
Several school districts here in Houston have started postponing classes for the next week.
don’t doubt that at all. – I was telling friends that here in Kansas our Public Schools are all going to follow suit too, following our State Univerisities lead , with suspending class. – Had a Statement come out where the upper ups were saying they were leaving it to the individual districts about how to go - - such as it read shortening classes , suspending class closing and such - - it’s coming
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And now pretty much every district in the Houston area that isn’t on spring break next week will be closed for the week.
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These wounds will fester. 1994 the White Sox were one of several favorites to win the World Series. The group of owners, including the Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf forced the lockout to happen. No world series. Major bummer, still sucks. Frank Thomas’ best shot at winning a ring. Technically he got one in 2005 but was hurt. Of course a big difference is the entire team comes back the next season. We won’t see Dok or Dotson again. Combined with the potential sanctions this is a bitter pill.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
Ohio authorities estimate 1% of the state is carrying it. That’s almost 120,000 people.
This should sink in: Ohio officials estimate is that 120,000 are infected and contagious, but only have 5 confirmed cases.
For every confirmed case, there are about 20,000 infected.
There are more than 1000 confirmed cases in the US right now. That works out to 20 million infected in the US – using Ohio as the estimate. That’s about 15% of the population or 1 out of 6-7 people that you and I know.
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Well, I made the fatal mistake of checking in on other teams Boards, seeing what they were having to say about the Cancellation of the NCAA tournament - - I should of known better ,.
As usual Kentucky greater then though fans had their comments : - - Opened up their thread and BOOM very 1st one, about Corona? - - Oh hell now it was : - Well we lost three on the win total and then showing the graphic of their winds to KU’s All time wins - nothing to do about what caused Cancellation - -I swear to God.
@nd one I saw : Will Kansas hag a COVID 19 Banner? , – then says WHEW for once we didn’t blow a 18 point lead ( help me please WHAT? ) what the hell is that suppose to be referring to ? and then says going to hang next to the Helm’s bread wrappers- -see funny huh?
People say we as KU fans have a paranoia about UK - - ummm NEWS FLASH - -you might wanna switch that - this crap is crazy - -all kinds of things going on and they want to spend their time worry about poor little KU. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 18 point lead I believe was the tre Burk Michigan game.
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@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
@jayballer73 18 point lead I believe was the tre Burk Michigan game.
ahh , ya from you bringing that up NOW ya I remember that ,so probably so.
Just sucks , this I feel was going to be a special year. Our ranking in NET defensively , the combination of Doke & Devon - -now we will have neither , every way I look at it man - -THIS WAS OUR YEAR
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B9otuzfBsNw/
Some fun that Holly Rowe and Doke had this morning at Sprint Center.
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Not surprising at this point, but the McDonald’s All-American has been canceled now. The game was supposed to be here in Houston and I was planning on going to see Bryce in person, but guess that ain’t happening now.
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@Texas-Hawk-10
so sad about everything!
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On a positive note, my bracket is perfect
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@Bosthawk said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
We are all going to wonder for the rest of our lives whether this was the year we win it, Selfs second championship. What if, what if, what if. We had a pretty damn good shot this year didn’t we? Great defense, best point guard, arguably best big man, a well-balanced well coached core of team guys. And it wasn’t like there was another monster NCAA team that were better really. What stunningly incredible bad luck. We will get through this virus, but it will take a few months probably, then hopefully we are wiser about epidemics, and can get on with our lives again. But we will always always wonder what if.
We have the argument that we have lost the most because we were the odds on favorites. And we will always carry the “what ifs.”
But as this moves on I’m feeling pretty good about myself and other Jayhawk fans quickly coming to terms with this situation realizing that human lives trump a basketball game.
We had a damn good season and I’m satisfied with that. We were blessed with some really outstanding games, like the Baylor game in Waco.
I’m already thinking about next season and I’m wondering if we will be over this virus by November.
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How long has KU Buckets been around (I’ve been a member for only a couple of years)? I mean, man, think about it - nothing to talk about right now, but bad things…
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What really pisses me off is it was this year! Last years team sucked why not then?!? Next year KU isn’t likely to be eligible for post season play. I’m super bummed our boys best chance in years was robbed.
Will 2019-20 NCAA champions be crowned in college basketball and other sports whose championships were canceled?
The NCAA hasn’t provided a definitive answer on this, but it’s difficult to envision anything beside a simple “no.” College football crowned a champion based on polls for a number of years, so Kansas and South Carolina would win titles in men’s and women’s basketball if the NCAA decided to do it that way – but that seems unlikely. In all likelihood, there’s going to be a blank line in the college sports annals next to 2019-20.
– Jeff Borzello
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yes sir - -what chaps my ass is THIS WAS OUR YEAR. - so we get screwed this year get nothing and then next year – more likely then not we are going to be in a post season ban from the tourney - -yippee
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#Why did the NCAA cancel its championships rather than explore postponements, particularly in men’s and women’s basketball?
The NCAA was believed to be exploring options for postponement throughout the day on Thursday, but several logistical hurdles prevented this from being a viable option.
A growing number of universities around the country are closing for the foreseeable future due to this worldwide pandemic, so the lack of a defined timetable to return to campus would put the NCAA in a bind. It’s hard to send an entire campus home for a month, bring students back, have the teams practice for a week or two and then hope to start an NCAA tournament. And that’s not even accounting for the ability to secure arenas, secure travel and identify television programming windows for men’s and women’s basketball in particular. It’s a great idea in theory, but not great in practice.
There’s simply a calendar issue, too. In men’s and women’s basketball in particular, many players without remaining eligibility would be pursuing their professional options or attempting to start their post-basketball careers. The NBA is able to delay things for a few weeks and reassess, because it’s able to extend its season into the middle of the summer with no issue. It’s likely impossible to do that in any college sport, particularly one expected to end in March or early April.
– Jeff Borzello
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Allow me to answer this for you Borzello - Because the media was calling out the NCAA as dragging its feet. This forced the NCAA to cancel the tournament instead of using a couple days to fully explore all options.
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perhaps but he does have a point i mentioned on here somewhere. The players can’t practice can’t even stay together. Some of the players will have summer commitments like internships for their post college employment that if they blow off could affect them down the road. Most venues are booked months in advance if not years. Just what group loses their scheduled activities f the tourney dates are moved?
About the only viable path forward i could see would be to cancel round by round with the higher seeds moving up hoping as time goes on you could get the round of 8 or perhaps just the final 4 played somehow. While for the 1 seeds that would be a great deal for the other 60 teams it would be even more heartbreaking than canceling.
The tournament is a major logistics accomplishment and trying to move it would be a major event that in itself would take months to arrange.
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Small venues? No crowds? Nba is practicing
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@dylans There were no other options. Every sports organization realized this after the NBA guy tested positive. If there had been a reliable projection of how long the virus would continue to increase spreading, options could have been discussed. But with China taking 3 months to control the spread, the most reasonable projections are several months away. That is way beyond the ability of the NCAA to schedule anything, and then meanwhile schools would have to continue to house teams somehow while graduating athletes would normally be moving on to careers. All with the possibility of it crashing down when even one teams gets quarantined.
It happened. Life goes on–fortunately.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
Small venues? No crowds? Nba is practicing
might be practicing but the commissioner was saying today if they have to postpone season for 6 weeks then so be it. Actually they are discourgaging players to practice together. - -working out fine but practice together - -not so much
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It happened. Life goes on–fortunately.
It’s not - that’s why a distraction would be fantastic.
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@jayballer73 I don’t think the NBA is going to have a season this year.
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@kjayhawks Really? Who did you have winning it? What was the score?
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NBA is completely different from NCAA.
NBA has agency and player’s union. We shouldn’t look at these two groups and expect everything to go the same.
And their leagues are structured totally different for venues, insurances, etc. There are several unions involved concerning any issue with the NBA.
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There should be no more talk about postseason bans for Kansas. It should end here.
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@approxinfinity I agree but the NCAA won’t - everyone got the same punishment and KU was the “only” cheater.
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I think the NCAA will back the f down after this. Nobody is going to be calling for bloodletting. BC (Before Coronavirus) vs AD (After Da Coronavirus)
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This sucks, wife doesn’t want to go with the kiddos and this stuff going around. It’s raining so we just sitting inside with no sports to watch. 2020 officially sucks
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@drgnslayr It actually looks intimidating…We have the Truth, the Process, and Doke can become the Intimidator of college basketball. Not to barrow Dale Earnhardt Sr. from NASCAR. Could you imagine driving the lane only to meet Doke with a face mask?
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@Kubie Sorry, all cancelled. Your life is cancelled. You are confined to house quarantine. I hope I’m sounding pathetic, because as serious as this is, I believe it’s reached some ridiculous proportions.
In fact, I think we should cancel this entire website…ok, maybe not. But exaggeration is always great when trying to make a ridiculous point. Plus, I’m going through bball withdrawals. I think this is a pandemic in and of itself. I think there are proven symptoms for college bball withdrawls. I’m experiencing many of them and more to come.
