NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?
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Big 12 done too
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@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
Wonder if they would try to move it back to like May if this stuff clears out?
I may be mistaken, but I believe the Ivy League has cancelled spring sports already - like baseball.
I don’t think it’s going away soon. I really hope I’m wrong.
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The nfl isn’t thinking about canceling, because only Tom Brady and the oldest coaches are at risk. Lol
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28891831/nfl-not-delaying-start-league-year-coronavirus
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Maybe I’m preaching to the choir, but when I hear people say: “…but there’s only 1000 cases in the US…” I feel they are missing some key points:
- There aren’t enough test kits to test everyone with symptoms.
- The incubation period is at least 14 days, and consequently…
- … an unknown number of people are infected, and unaware and un-symptomatic
- It is known to be highly contagious and easily transmitted…
- which means you might not have to come in contact with a contagious person, but simply in contact with something that was in contact with a contagious person.
- I’m not even talking about mortality rate, which is unclear as well.
- It’s a novel virus, which means no one has immunity.
- Best estimates are that a vaccine is a year away.
Given the unknowns, and the few knowns, I conclude that the actions are prudent. It sucks, but the population needs to take 2 weeks pause at least to let the infected people develop the symptoms so we can get a better sense of the scope.
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Is it possible that all the young folks that statistics have proven will survive the virus will now have anti-bodies to protect them when they are elderly and no longer need to fear the virus? Is it possible it has a latent period like chicken pox and shingles? Are we under or over reacting? Either way it should’ve been done a month ago.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 My spring break is next week. I definitely didn’t shake every kids hand as they walked in the door today! Stood there with my hands in my pockets and said “Good Morning!”
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@benshawks08 elbows
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i’m not a epidemiologist but my understanding is that this virus is corona-style which is not one that people tend to develop immunity as compared to chicken pox/shingles… I think it’s a different strain…
People can get the coronavirus more than once, experts warn — recovering does not necessarily make you immune
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-risk-of-reinfection-2020-2
Not sure of the validity of this, so would encourage looking for other sources.
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@bskeet said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
i’m not a epidemiologist but my understanding is that this virus is corona-style which is not one that people tend to develop immunity as compared to chicken pox/shingles… I think it’s a different strain…
COVID-19 shares about 90% of its DNA with SARS from what I’ve read.
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@bskeet said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
i’m not a epidemiologist but my understanding is that this virus is corona-style which is not one that people tend to develop immunity as compared to chicken pox/shingles… I think it’s a different strain…
People can get the coronavirus more than once, experts warn — recovering does not necessarily make you immune
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-risk-of-reinfection-2020-2
Not sure of the validity of this, so would encourage looking for other sources.
That doesn’t sound promising for an effective vaccine then.
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@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
That doesn’t sound promising for an effective vaccine then.
Entirely possible. HIV took a long time to get under control. SARS, H1N1, Zika…not sure what’s available.
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Maybe with the NBA shut down we’ll get a bonus year of Dok (hardship waiver medical or otherwise) and Dot. Ok, I know I’m dreaming…
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Baseball and NHL suspending as per ESPN
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Sports Armageddon.
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Looks like we will all have an opportunity to reevaluate our lifestyles.
Great opportunity to work on family relationships.
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@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
The nfl isn’t thinking about canceling, because only Tom Brady and the oldest coaches are at risk. Lol
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28891831/nfl-not-delaying-start-league-year-coronavirus
The NFL also doesn’t have much going on either right now. It’s easy enough to FaceTime Pro Day drills and interviews and still get the information teams need/want on players.
The next thing in their agenda that’s going to be affected is the draft in April in Las Vegas. In a little over a month. I’d expect that to be closed to the public based on projections of when the spread of this disease should slow down.
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@drgnslayr said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
Looks like we will all have an opportunity to reevaluate our lifestyles.
Great opportunity to work on family relationships.
This board counts as a family, right?
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It sure does, my friend!
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Not great for retirement funds. Might have to work extra now. This is the real tragedy. I’m out of shape about sports, but the economy is getting bent over and being gently screwed with a chainsaw right now. Might present a buying opportunity for someone if they can figure out the bottom.
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This thing is toast
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@Crimsonorblue22 One kid got a fist bump…
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@dylans LOL… well, the market’s growth over the last 2 years was a house of cards. The debt skyrocketed… lots of Fed fiddling and infusing funds… the bloodletting is scary, but not totally unexpected.
Also, you are absolutely right that this is an opportunity if you have resources and happen to time things right.
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All major sports leagues in North America are now on hiatus that are in season as MLB, NHL, and MLS have suspended operations for the time being.
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I was just googling H1N1 and it happened in 2009 and was considerably more deadly. Virtually everything when on business as usual. I still think we are blowing this way outta proportion. We have done nothing in previous pandemics that statistically are 20 and 30 times deadly than this.
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@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
I was just googling H1N1 and it happened in 2009 and was considerably more deadly. Virtually everything when on business as usual. I still think we are blowing this way outta proportion. We have done nothing in previous pandemics that statistically are 20 and 30 times deadly than this.
Maybe it killed a lot more people because it was business as usual…?
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I live in a small town. We all have a central post office to get mail (No door to door delivery). Everyone in town (1,500) will get it if one person does.
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@FarmerJayhawk it’s morality was much higher from the get go. We will be laughing at this in a month and talking about how insanely stupid it was. Remember which president was in and got a pass on this. Also the media didn’t go completely bananas when that happened or west Nile or Ebola or Zika.
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@dylans me too, not worried at this point personally.
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so - our boys, the number one team, won’t get to play in the big dance. obviously they ae going to have to cancel it. this just blows bing time - I’m soooo pissed
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@Bosthawk I am very upset myself, I will continue to be so if it blows over like it pretty much has in China now after a few months and they had the highest morality rate.
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@Bosthawk said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
so - our boys, the number one team, won’t get to play in the big dance. obviously they ae going to have to cancel it. this just blows bing time - I’m soooo pissed
well don’t feel like the lone ranger you no different then thousands of others I’m pissed too feel so bad for Doke but we know this was the RIGHT decision , like they were talking your putting the college players at risk to , the players them selves thinking well not really wanting to play but yet wanting to play for the team just can’t take that risk - sucks cause think this was OUR year , this screwing with our economy HUGE
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@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
@FarmerJayhawk it’s morality was much higher from the get go. We will be laughing at this in a month and talking about how insanely stupid it was. Remember which president was in and got a pass on this. Also the media didn’t go completely bananas when that happened or west Nile or Ebola or Zika.
We’ll be happy we took measures to protect a bunch of people. It’s the problem with getting people to believe these things actually work. They see “oh look, nothing happened!” And think it was all just hype. The patterns are really, really bad. If we can save lives by canceling some entertainment temporarily let’s do it. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
I was just googling H1N1 and it happened in 2009 and was considerably more deadly. Virtually everything when on business as usual. I still think we are blowing this way outta proportion. We have done nothing in previous pandemics that statistically are 20 and 30 times deadly than this.
To those who are young and have no respiratory or auto-immune issues, and only care about themselves – this probably seems like overkill because they are unlikely to be severely affected by this strain.
But for members of at-risk populations, it could be too little too late. Covid-19 is considerably more contagious than H1N1. No one has immunity, as it is novel. The mortality rate in at-risk populations may be as high as SARS.
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@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
@FarmerJayhawk it’s morality was much higher from the get go. We will be laughing at this in a month and talking about how insanely stupid it was. Remember which president was in and got a pass on this. Also the media didn’t go completely bananas when that happened or west Nile or Ebola or Zika.
Trump doesn’t have a dam thing to do with any cancelations of Tournaments - that’s all left up to the NCAA and Conference authorities easy to try and blame this virus on the President - -come on now leave the dam politics bullshit out of this. Were talking about people’s health. -We need to think about people’s health here just because some doesn’t have it or think they can get it is no reason to try and place crazy blame on others mercy
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@FarmerJayhawk ever read the boy who cried wolf? The more this happens and turns out to be not as serious, less and less will take it seriously. I’m really mad and not trying be a jerk but I still think this is getting a super crazy. I will agree to disagree with anyone my friend.
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@jayballer73 I posted that on the wrong thread my friend, my apologies.
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Kansas has suspended all athletic activities. They won’t be dancing even if there was one to dance
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@bskeet your not getting me my friend. If you google numbers. Pneumonia and the flu are more deadly to elders from numbers that I’ve seen. I’ve been saying we should quarantine elders for a week man. I’ve lost one set of grandparents to pneumonia. I think we should protect those who need it.
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@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
@FarmerJayhawk ever read the boy who cried wolf? The more this happens and turns out to be not as serious, less and less will take it seriously. I’m really mad and not trying be a jerk but I still think this is getting a super crazy. I will agree to disagree with anyone my friend.
Of course. I think a disease that kills 1% of people it infects with hundreds of possible new cases every day is pretty serious, but that’s just me.
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I hear your frustrations. I’ve definitely illustrated my skepticism in these blogs.
But we have a crisis now and have to come together and focus on what we need to do now. It’s a crisis in medical, financial and other areas.
The most important thing for all of us to do now is to look around us at the ones we love and evaluate their risk in this. Elderly and those with immune issues need to be protected. Do what you need to do… limit these people from human contact with others and then use social distancing, masks and gloves and a clean environment to help reduce risk.
Help build their immunity with consumption of black elderberry, antioxidants (like blueberries), vitamin C, etc.
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@FarmerJayhawk once again Flu and pneumonia are similar statically.
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I’m gonna get off of here, I apologize if people think I don’t care, I do. I’m just not sold my friends. Everyone be safe!!
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You have expressed frustrations we all feel. Stay connected.
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@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
@jayballer73 I posted that on the wrong thread my friend, my apologies.
no we good no need to apologize it’s just that some people who feel they are over reacting making to much out of this - - most of those are one’s that basically have no need to worry. If they would listen to these athletes from ALL SPORTS they are all in agreement . David Price said reporting to camp in base ball said to a reporter on his way in - - -IT HAS TO HAPPEN referring to them suspending their activities , he said, I’ve got 2 kids -people saying they over reacting - -authorities have come out and said this is TEN TIMES - - -TEN TIMES as deadly as any dam flu. - it’s already mutated once.They have said a person could be tested and have such a mild case they could come back negative and still have the virus and continue to carry the virus and infect others
They are talking about how institutins may very well making the NCAA’S decision for them Like KU - -DUKE and some other institutions cancelling all activities and by doing so saying to the NCAA if there is a tourney - - -were not playing taking into consideration instead of play. - - I’m biased - -I would love for it to be played BUT this is the right decision. People wanna say they over reacting and to those people I SAY well YOUR under reacting
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Smart to keep a lid on this thing lest we become Italy. Can’t disagree with Long and Girod, though of course I’m horribly disappointed for Doke, Dot, Moss, and the rest of the crew who won’t get a chance to prove how good they were on the biggest stage.
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It’s been tough for me to pull away from games whether there is a crowd or not.
But I’ve come around to thinking it is best to cancel. It’s really about protecting those at risk. I am spending a big chunk of my time now creating a safer environment around my loved ones at risk.
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I think the debate will be hard to resolve. Even more of a challenge in the future when we look at things retrospectively.
If the curve flattens and the epidemic in the US turns out to be not as deadly and, instead have an impact that is similar to the common flu, the public health officials will see it as evidence the response was a success and skeptics will see it as evidence that it was overblown and a whole bunch of hooey.
