NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?
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All major sports leagues in North America are now on hiatus that are in season as MLB, NHL, and MLS have suspended operations for the time being.
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I was just googling H1N1 and it happened in 2009 and was considerably more deadly. Virtually everything when on business as usual. I still think we are blowing this way outta proportion. We have done nothing in previous pandemics that statistically are 20 and 30 times deadly than this.
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@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
I was just googling H1N1 and it happened in 2009 and was considerably more deadly. Virtually everything when on business as usual. I still think we are blowing this way outta proportion. We have done nothing in previous pandemics that statistically are 20 and 30 times deadly than this.
Maybe it killed a lot more people because it was business as usual…?
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I live in a small town. We all have a central post office to get mail (No door to door delivery). Everyone in town (1,500) will get it if one person does.
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@FarmerJayhawk it’s morality was much higher from the get go. We will be laughing at this in a month and talking about how insanely stupid it was. Remember which president was in and got a pass on this. Also the media didn’t go completely bananas when that happened or west Nile or Ebola or Zika.
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@dylans me too, not worried at this point personally.
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so - our boys, the number one team, won’t get to play in the big dance. obviously they ae going to have to cancel it. this just blows bing time - I’m soooo pissed
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@Bosthawk I am very upset myself, I will continue to be so if it blows over like it pretty much has in China now after a few months and they had the highest morality rate.
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@Bosthawk said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
so - our boys, the number one team, won’t get to play in the big dance. obviously they ae going to have to cancel it. this just blows bing time - I’m soooo pissed
well don’t feel like the lone ranger you no different then thousands of others I’m pissed too feel so bad for Doke but we know this was the RIGHT decision , like they were talking your putting the college players at risk to , the players them selves thinking well not really wanting to play but yet wanting to play for the team just can’t take that risk - sucks cause think this was OUR year , this screwing with our economy HUGE
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@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
@FarmerJayhawk it’s morality was much higher from the get go. We will be laughing at this in a month and talking about how insanely stupid it was. Remember which president was in and got a pass on this. Also the media didn’t go completely bananas when that happened or west Nile or Ebola or Zika.
We’ll be happy we took measures to protect a bunch of people. It’s the problem with getting people to believe these things actually work. They see “oh look, nothing happened!” And think it was all just hype. The patterns are really, really bad. If we can save lives by canceling some entertainment temporarily let’s do it. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
I was just googling H1N1 and it happened in 2009 and was considerably more deadly. Virtually everything when on business as usual. I still think we are blowing this way outta proportion. We have done nothing in previous pandemics that statistically are 20 and 30 times deadly than this.
To those who are young and have no respiratory or auto-immune issues, and only care about themselves – this probably seems like overkill because they are unlikely to be severely affected by this strain.
But for members of at-risk populations, it could be too little too late. Covid-19 is considerably more contagious than H1N1. No one has immunity, as it is novel. The mortality rate in at-risk populations may be as high as SARS.
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@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
@FarmerJayhawk it’s morality was much higher from the get go. We will be laughing at this in a month and talking about how insanely stupid it was. Remember which president was in and got a pass on this. Also the media didn’t go completely bananas when that happened or west Nile or Ebola or Zika.
Trump doesn’t have a dam thing to do with any cancelations of Tournaments - that’s all left up to the NCAA and Conference authorities easy to try and blame this virus on the President - -come on now leave the dam politics bullshit out of this. Were talking about people’s health. -We need to think about people’s health here just because some doesn’t have it or think they can get it is no reason to try and place crazy blame on others mercy
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@FarmerJayhawk ever read the boy who cried wolf? The more this happens and turns out to be not as serious, less and less will take it seriously. I’m really mad and not trying be a jerk but I still think this is getting a super crazy. I will agree to disagree with anyone my friend.
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@jayballer73 I posted that on the wrong thread my friend, my apologies.
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Kansas has suspended all athletic activities. They won’t be dancing even if there was one to dance
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@bskeet your not getting me my friend. If you google numbers. Pneumonia and the flu are more deadly to elders from numbers that I’ve seen. I’ve been saying we should quarantine elders for a week man. I’ve lost one set of grandparents to pneumonia. I think we should protect those who need it.
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@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
@FarmerJayhawk ever read the boy who cried wolf? The more this happens and turns out to be not as serious, less and less will take it seriously. I’m really mad and not trying be a jerk but I still think this is getting a super crazy. I will agree to disagree with anyone my friend.
Of course. I think a disease that kills 1% of people it infects with hundreds of possible new cases every day is pretty serious, but that’s just me.
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I hear your frustrations. I’ve definitely illustrated my skepticism in these blogs.
But we have a crisis now and have to come together and focus on what we need to do now. It’s a crisis in medical, financial and other areas.
The most important thing for all of us to do now is to look around us at the ones we love and evaluate their risk in this. Elderly and those with immune issues need to be protected. Do what you need to do… limit these people from human contact with others and then use social distancing, masks and gloves and a clean environment to help reduce risk.
Help build their immunity with consumption of black elderberry, antioxidants (like blueberries), vitamin C, etc.
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@FarmerJayhawk once again Flu and pneumonia are similar statically.
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I’m gonna get off of here, I apologize if people think I don’t care, I do. I’m just not sold my friends. Everyone be safe!!
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You have expressed frustrations we all feel. Stay connected.
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@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
@jayballer73 I posted that on the wrong thread my friend, my apologies.
no we good no need to apologize it’s just that some people who feel they are over reacting making to much out of this - - most of those are one’s that basically have no need to worry. If they would listen to these athletes from ALL SPORTS they are all in agreement . David Price said reporting to camp in base ball said to a reporter on his way in - - -IT HAS TO HAPPEN referring to them suspending their activities , he said, I’ve got 2 kids -people saying they over reacting - -authorities have come out and said this is TEN TIMES - - -TEN TIMES as deadly as any dam flu. - it’s already mutated once.They have said a person could be tested and have such a mild case they could come back negative and still have the virus and continue to carry the virus and infect others
They are talking about how institutins may very well making the NCAA’S decision for them Like KU - -DUKE and some other institutions cancelling all activities and by doing so saying to the NCAA if there is a tourney - - -were not playing taking into consideration instead of play. - - I’m biased - -I would love for it to be played BUT this is the right decision. People wanna say they over reacting and to those people I SAY well YOUR under reacting
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Smart to keep a lid on this thing lest we become Italy. Can’t disagree with Long and Girod, though of course I’m horribly disappointed for Doke, Dot, Moss, and the rest of the crew who won’t get a chance to prove how good they were on the biggest stage.
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It’s been tough for me to pull away from games whether there is a crowd or not.
But I’ve come around to thinking it is best to cancel. It’s really about protecting those at risk. I am spending a big chunk of my time now creating a safer environment around my loved ones at risk.
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I think the debate will be hard to resolve. Even more of a challenge in the future when we look at things retrospectively.
If the curve flattens and the epidemic in the US turns out to be not as deadly and, instead have an impact that is similar to the common flu, the public health officials will see it as evidence the response was a success and skeptics will see it as evidence that it was overblown and a whole bunch of hooey.
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@kjayhawks There’s two things going on here. Sporting bodies are not caving to media pressure by cancelling or postponing events, they are listening to groups like the CDC and WHO and following their advice.
The people going out and buying multiple years with of TP and other sanitation products are the ones buying into the media fear mongering.
Pushing pause on life for 2-3 weeks to slow down the spread of this disease is a reasonable measure in this case based on what happened in Italy.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
@kjayhawks There’s two things going on here. Sporting bodies are not caving to media pressure by cancelling or postponing events, they are listening to groups like the CDC and WHO and following their advice.
The people going out and buying multiple years with of TP and other sanitation products are the ones buying into the media fear mongering.
Pushing pause on life for 2-3 weeks to slow down the spread of this disease is a reasonable measure in this case based on what happened in Italy.
Agree with the caveat that the people hoarding TP may be victims of anxiety disorders as much as it could be the media. I tend to not blame the media for every stupid thing that people do… just like I don’t blame video games for mass murders, cars for car accidents… guns, etc…
That said, not all media outlets practice responsible journalism and certainly provoke emotions… which quickly becomes fear for those who are susceptible.
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I’ll take some flack for this because not everyone shares my beliefs. Here’s what it boils down to for me personally.
Psalm 64:1 Hear my voice, O God, in my meditation; Preserve my life from fear of the enemy.
This applies to this and so many other things in the world. It’s not about the actual “enemy” (coronavirus, in this instance) - it’s about the FEAR of the enemy. The actual enemy is never as big as the fear of it, no matter what it is.
OK, you can start bashing me now.
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@nuleafjhawk said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
I’ll take some flack for this because not everyone shares my beliefs. Here’s what it boils down to for me personally.
Psalm 64:1 Hear my voice, O God, in my meditation; Preserve my life from fear of the enemy.
This applies to this and so many other things in the world. It’s not about the actual “enemy” (coronavirus, in this instance) - it’s about the FEAR of the enemy. The actual enemy is never as big as the fear of it, no matter what it is.
OK, you can start bashing me now.
I think that’s fair. Right now it’s hard to disentangle the impacts of the fear of the virus vs the actual virus.
The markets are all about speculation. The steep drop is partly — maybe mostly — a reflection of fear.
The actual impact of the virus is people missing work, racking up medial costs, causing some deaths… etc.
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If they want to make an actual impact stoppage of a few basketball games isn’t it. That’s just optics. All flights need to be stopped. All public transportation needs to stop. Ban groups of over 100 - sucks for bigger businesses as they won’t even be able to run right. Stop all inter-state traffic. Don’t allow people into or out of areas with known infection. Etc.
Cancelling games is window dressing and frankly a bunch of crap unless it’s just the start of something more sweeping.
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@bskeet said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
@nuleafjhawk said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
I’ll take some flack for this because not everyone shares my beliefs. Here’s what it boils down to for me personally.
Psalm 64:1 Hear my voice, O God, in my meditation; Preserve my life from fear of the enemy.
This applies to this and so many other things in the world. It’s not about the actual “enemy” (coronavirus, in this instance) - it’s about the FEAR of the enemy. The actual enemy is never as big as the fear of it, no matter what it is.
OK, you can start bashing me now.
I think that’s fair. Right now it’s hard to disentangle the impacts of the fear of the virus vs the actual virus.
The markets are all about speculation. The steep drop is partly — maybe mostly — a reflection of fear.
The actual impact of the virus is people missing work, racking up medial costs, causing some deaths… etc.
I’m not going to bash you my friend. - your totally fine, we all have our stances - -we just pull together now and make it through this together
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Well they were talking to the Iowa Coach McCaffery ? - was asking him if he thought or had heard of a time frame where they just might postpone the tourney - play in a couple of Months. He said nothing for sure but said if they might try he said he had heard from a couple of other Coach’s - -and yes a possibility of re-scheduling for MAY. - -Said there would have to be a lot go into re-planning getting things sit -but you JUSTNEVE KNOW - they said though you need facilities to be availibilty - College players concentrating on their NBA future
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@jayballer73 Hey, KU might be healthy by then!
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Three new cases of Corona here in Kansas all from Johnson County - -all men from 35-65 - -contacted from a conference in Florida
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@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
@jayballer73 Hey, KU might be healthy by then!
YAY , there is a possibility maybe a little better then what some might think - -but yet having said that probably won’t
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May madness…now that is insane.
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@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
May madness…now that is insane.
May Madness
Hey-- you better get the TM on that now. You know how the NCAA is about things like that!
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@bskeet Yeah totally. I’m on a group text with a concert promoter, a project manager at a major movie theater company, a lawyer, a non-profit employee, and a film editor, and just about all of them are voicing fears about the immediate future of their employment and livelihood. Those fears are very real but also hard to gauge the true future impact of this pandemic. Most of us in that text thread have purchased houses within the last 5 years and are still paying mortgages, two couples have kids under 1 who require daycare. And while you might say why would they pay for day care if they have to stay home, well, don’t pay for day care in a city like Austin and watch that spot disappear.
I’m certainly not going to bash what I think is a pretty sound observation that fear of a thing is usually worse than the thing itself.
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I’m sure some of you heard the Texas players were quite concerned about Andrew Jones - name right? The player that had cancer who has a compromised immune system. Maybe that should help us think of others for those of us that can’t do that!
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@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
If they want to make an actual impact stoppage of a few basketball games isn’t it. That’s just optics. All flights need to be stopped. All public transportation needs to stop. Ban groups of over 100 - sucks for bigger businesses as they won’t even be able to run right. Stop all inter-state traffic. Don’t allow people into or out of areas with known infection. Etc.
Cancelling games is window dressing and frankly a bunch of crap unless it’s just the start of something more sweeping.
Sports is often the catalyst for social issues in this country rightly or wrongly. The hopeful effect of this will be that without sports around, people will take heed of the warnings given by the CDC and WHO and not flippantly dismiss them because it doesn’t directly affect them. They’ll see people that are generally considered invincible because of the health and conditioning most athletes are in taking precautions and realize they need to as well.
Rudy Gobert’s story has really pissed me off since it came out that he’d been very dismissive of it and making light of the situation and now he has it and spread it to at least 1 teammate and who knows of he spread it to any opponents yet or not
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@Texas-Hawk-10 weird he was the one, karma?
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@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
If they want to make an actual impact stoppage of a few basketball games isn’t it. That’s just optics. All flights need to be stopped. All public transportation needs to stop. Ban groups of over 100 - sucks for bigger businesses as they won’t even be able to run right. Stop all inter-state traffic. Don’t allow people into or out of areas with known infection. Etc.
Cancelling games is window dressing and frankly a bunch of crap unless it’s just the start of something more sweeping.
That’s how they seem to be flattening the curve elsewhere. Exponential growth is hard to wrap a brain around.
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Ready or not here it is. I just hope that fear of the virus is worse than the actual virus.
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@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
Ready or not here it is. I just hope that fear of the virus is worse than the actual virus.
New Cases of the Virus in NY jumped by like 110 new cases in a 24 hour period. - went to like 330 now
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Ohio authorities estimate 1% of the state is carrying it. That’s almost 120,000 people.
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Listening to them talk with Jay Bilas, he is saying that he had been getting quite a few texts within the last 15 minutes and saying they would be all in favor of POSTPONING the tourney not Cancel.
Like Postponing for like a Month and then seeing where we are at and if no change or thing like that then Cancel
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