Doke
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BeddieKU23 said:
The percentages don’t really tell the story. Confidence is key. Nobody on last years team was a confident shooter other then Grimes and Lawson. Both guys are gone. Hopefully the guys can develop confidence in their shooting abilities.
100% agree. I have faith they will. Both Dotson and Ochai have their roles set in stone for next season and will go through the offseason knowing what Self expects and will ask them to do.
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BShark said:
What if he comes back, stays healthy and is a complete badass?
He would be a badass for sure, but staying healthy is more of a challenge than him being a badass.
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" DECISION DEADLINE " - -Doke stays ? - - - Doke Declares ? - - T-Minus 15 hours and 43 minutes. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Doubt we hear until tomorrow. Doke’s a religious kid and probably doesn’t want to interrupt Easter.
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Matt Tait posted in the Phog 25 minutes ago - -Doke as of Saturday Night - Has NO WORD yet - Like Matt said - - tick - - tick - - tick. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Bill did say 10 days clears a lot of things up…
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Self saying he still hasn’t heard anything. Wonder if Doke is just going to let 10:59 come and go…
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Self saying he still hasn’t heard anything. Wonder if Doke is just going to let 10:59 come and go…
I dunno , But my merry go round is spinning back around to me starting to get this sick feeling again.
1st I felt there was no way he was coming back for his Senior year… - - Then the longer it has gotten with nothing I started feeling more and more every day that there was a good possibility he was coming back - - NOW at the last few hours - just feel he is going to drop a bomb shell and say he was declaring - -and talk about how it was a really tough decision and yada - -yada- -yada - -and I will go in deep deep depression with the way our recruiting has gone and then losing him on top of that. - I hop I am SOOOOO WRONG. - - -less then 3 hours till deadline - like someone said we probably for sure won’t hear anything till tommorrow - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Well Jeff Long looks like tweeted Check your local listings - - always wanted to say that - - end of May.
I couldn’t figure out what the hell he meant by that - totally threw me off. - -Somebody said - -the end of May is the last day a player can withdraw his name from the draft - -would be kind of hinting that Doke is declaring - Hope that’s not right. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer73 said:
Well Jeff Long looks like tweeted Check your local listings - - always wanted to say that - - end of May.
I couldn’t figure out what the hell he meant by that - totally threw me off. - -Somebody said - -the end of May is the last day a player can withdraw his name from the draft - -would be kind of hinting that Doke is declaring - Hope that’s not right. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Just messing with people. Tait is reporting Self hasn’t heard a peep from Doke.
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Still not a peep. I’ll be nervous until the NBA releases the list.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Still not a peep. I’ll be nervous until the NBA releases the list.
when will that come out
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jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Still not a peep. I’ll be nervous until the NBA releases the list.
when will that come out
Monday
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Jeez it never fails.
Even if his name isn’t on the list I wouldn’t jump for joy. He can still use KU and its facilities to get back to health by summer, field offers to play overseas and leave Self and Co high and dry. I’m not saying that’s what he’d do but you can’t assume anything about how kids do things these days. I hope their is closure soon so that Self isn’t held hostage on another roster spot he could be selling to someone.
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I would think Self presses him for a commitment one way or the other.
But still no word? Or is the rumor on the street he’s going overseas?
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@BeddieKU23 doke doesn’t seem to be that kind of kid.
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@BeddieKU23 As close to graduation as Doke is, I can’t imagine him leaving to go straight overseas without attempting the NBA route first. If he leaves KU this year, it’ll be to the NBA. If he doesn’t declare, he’ll be back for his senior season.
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With his injury history, I think Doke most likely makes the jump. The window for being a pro is short, particularly for a guy like Doke that has already experienced lots of injuries. Given his injury history, I doubt that Doke plays much into his 30’s. More than likely, he’s done professionally by 31 or 32, maybe even sooner.
Because of that, when he’s evaluating his pro prospects, the potential of one more year of earnings is huge because he only has maybe 10 or 12 years anyway, possibly fewer than that. That’s why I think he is gone. He is on track to graduate, but his pro opportunity window is shrinking (NBA window may already be closed). Doke could have an overseas career that nets him a few million by the time he’s done over the course of his career. He’s unlikely to ever be a star or net the huge payday, so having an extra year of earnings represents 8%-10% of his total career earning potential. Another injury plagued (free) college year might close that window, too.
I’d love to see him back at KU, but what’s best for him and his family is likely to jump to the pros.
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So then why couldn’t he just declare his intentions by the date he was supposed to. SMH
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I guess I’m crazy, but I think he has way more to gain by coming back than leaving. At this moment, he wouldn’t make a ton overseas. He could legitimately get drafted though if he can make it through next season healthy.
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HE IS BACK!!
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Woodrow said:
HE IS BACK!!
Weird, never would have guessed.
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BShark said:
What if he comes back, stays healthy and is a complete badass?
2 out of 3 so far.
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LETS FORKING GOOOOOO
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no flippin way!!!
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If he can’t stay healthy he will need that degree.
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@approxinfinity Or maybe he could become a doctor and fix his own boo-boos…
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approxinfinity said:
If he can’t stay healthy he will need that degree.
Eh
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I think HCBS knew BB banquet night that Doke was returning because Coach said he was comfortable with his team for next year. Coach could have told Hurt that Doke would return so make your decision on that information.
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This is good news, but it still doesn’t fix the problems KU had this year. And that is completely dependent on Doke staying healthy.
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justanotherfan said:
This is good news, but it still doesn’t fix the problems KU had this year. And that is completely dependent on Doke staying healthy.
No, but we’re still in it for a lot of terrific fits. Hampton, Tucker, Holyfield, and Precious. Land one big and one small and those problems are much, much better.
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Alright, Silvio’s turn.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Alright, Silvio’s turn.
Appeal’s turn*
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BShark said:
1ST good news we have gotten this off season. - -Now with hope that Dotson comes back - -slowly salvage this dam thing yet. - -If we can get Hampton to re-classify and commit here we be all right
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Kcmatt7 said:
Alright, Silvio’s turn.
I think that he might just get that Appeal - -like you know time served and eligible this coming season - -I know dream - -but hey it’s MY DREAM – let me dream it lmao
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@jayballer73 Nice hype video.
I disagree on “getting Hampton to commit and reclassify”. Theres a whole lot of writing between the lines on that statement.
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approxinfinity said:
@jayballer73 Nice hype video.
I disagree on “getting Hampton to commit and reclassify”. Theres a whole lot of writing between the lines on that statement.
Na - - simple - - re-classify - -commit period lol
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approxinfinity said:
@jayballer73 Nice hype video.
I disagree on “getting Hampton to commit and reclassify”. Theres a whole lot of writing between the lines on that statement.
I’d put a nice chunk of change on Hampton being in 2019. KU or Memphis.
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@FarmerJayhawk Agree with this based on what has been said about him and the fact that he is out of TX HS hoops eligibility.
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BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Agree with this based on what has been said about him and the fact that he is out of TX HS hoops eligibility.
I will add that prep school is an option if he graduates early. The Anfernee Simons/Thon Maker/Jalen Lecque route.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
approxinfinity said:
@jayballer73 Nice hype video.
I disagree on “getting Hampton to commit and reclassify”. Theres a whole lot of writing between the lines on that statement.
I’d put a nice chunk of change on Hampton being in 2019. KU or Memphis.
me too as he said that he was very seriously considering it again
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Hmmm , very interesting statement from Coach Self while talking about Doke returning in a statement this afternoon.
Coach Self stated : - - I’m said he ( Doke ) got hurt BUT happy for our program. - Here is what I think is interesting statement:
Coach Self said " IF things fall the way we think they could potentially fall , then this ( Doke ) is a big piece to Anchor what could be a real fun year next season "
Hmmmmm , to me – this tells me that Coach Self is feeling pretty confident that there very well could some players we are sitting very well with that we don’t know - - OR that we do know that they Staff - - is feeling really good about Maybe I’m reading to much in that statement - -BUT then again Maybe I’m not - -Could be he knows something not being mentioned. - -hope I’m seeing this right - -I think we gonna be ok. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 - I suppose Self could be in reference to Grimes and SDS potentially coming back?
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Silvio definitely. Grimes definitely not barring a Vick-esque change of heart. Better to focus on Hampton and Tucker.
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Silvio has stated he will come back if he wins the appeal. I believe him.
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Gorilla72 said:
@jayballer73 - I suppose Self could be in reference to Grimes and SDS potentially coming back?
I don’t know - -if it’s Silvio for him to make a statement of this , would be like saying they are REALLY confident that Silvio’s appeal will win out - just not sure. - Could be about Holiday - -OR Tucker - OR Hampton also. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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We will better next year, line up of Dot (If he returns, which I’d bet heavily on), Garrett, Ocahi, David and Doke, with Mitch, Braun and McBride off the bench. That’s if we dont sign anyone else.
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Still have to fine another big like no matter what
