Official Player Declarations Thread
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HighEliteMajor said:
Self’s only mishandling of Grimes was not sitting is tail on the bench. I’m not sure what else you can do for a kid.
Exactly. Just goes to show that some people are going to think what they will, and no evidence can change that. Grimes lacked the speed to play PG at the D1 level, let alone the NBA level. Honestly Grimes’ speed made him a 3/wing, if anything. You are what you can defend.
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@Crimsonorblue22 waaay too long of an article for an ex-Jayhawk who never produced in his one year. If he comes back I’ll read it with interest.
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Jaxson Hayes from Texas declared today
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Woodrow said:
Jaxson Hayes from Texas declared today
Makes sense. He’s a top 10 prospect. Then there are the KU guys.
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@dylans what are his stats at Texas?
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@Crimsonorblue22 A 6’11” springy athlete. 10pts 5 rebs, but more importantly 4.3 win shares, 27 PER. Lots of upside, no reason to get exposed in college.
Grimes is a non-athlete. 8 pts 2.5 rebs, 2 asts. 1.4 win shares, 8.7 PER. He wasn’t good according to advanced stats or the eye test, even though his points per game and rebs+assists are very similar in stats to Hayes. If he thinks he can play better he should come back and improve his draft stock. If he thinks he’s been exposed, he had better go while his HS reputation still means something.
I know which one I would take as an NBA gm if those were my two choices.
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@dylans I wasn’t comparing them. Shaka just doesn’t seem to get his bigs to score much
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@Crimsonorblue22 Shaka sucks. He’s wasted 3 straight loto big men
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@dylans I wasn’t comparing them. Shaka just doesn’t seem to get his bigs to score much
Sorry crim, I figured you were making a statement since his stats are readily available.
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If you’re a 1st round pick, leaving is a no brainer. If you are a 2nd round pick, I think leaving is probably the right decision. That’s a lot of money still. If you actually do latch on to the roster, it’s millions and you’re set for life as long as you aren’t an idiot. You’re very likely to make 6 figures overseas even if the NBA doesn’t pan out for you as a 2nd rounder.
All in all, you should become very rich playing basketball if you are projected to get drafted in either round.
If you are not guaranteed to get drafted, I think it is very very very very very stupid to leave. Get your degree or bust your tail for a summer and get yourself in a position to be guaranteed a lot of money to play basketball in the coming years.
I don’t have a problem with OADs. But I will say that Grimes is going to go down as one of the most disappointing players we have ever had step foot in the Fieldhouse wearing the Home Whites. Which is really sad.
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Great post.
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Cam Reddish declares for the draft.
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@kjayhawks If that is so…Hammering RJ Barrett is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard. He was a presumed sure fire OAD when he stepped foot on campus . And…he is going to be a lottery pick.
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@Kcmatt7 Second round picks don’t have guaranteed contracts and don’t sign for enough to be set for life if that’s their only contract which does happen. Playing pro ball in Europe doesn’t make one rich either unless you’re among the best of the best in Europe.
The only reason a projected second round pick should stay in the draft is of their projected to be undrafted the next year if they stay.
Grimes is an example of someone who should not be leaving at this point. If he’s even drafted, it’ll be a non guaranteed deal. Based in how he was playing at the end of this past season, had he stayed for his sophomore year and built off those last few games, he likely would’ve played himself into being a first round pick instead of the second round/undrafted player he will likely be this offseason.
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You know what they say about that ugly gal? I wouldn’t draft Grimes with your pick.
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My take on Grimes, and this may come as blasphemy to some, is that Hudy should have changed it up with him. I know at this age the normal thing is to increase strength. It is the rare case that enough base strength is there already, yet I think with Grimes if you look at him that was the case. He would have been better off on a program that lightened his weight. He would have been quicker and possibly had better stamina which may have helped his jumper.
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@dylans no what?
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@BigBad I could be way wrong on this, I’ve been wrong before. I never perceived that his problem was anything physical - looked like he had what it takes to play the game.
But he just never looked “all there” to me. Like he was thinking about his girlfriend, or what to post on facebook, or what was for dinner that evening. Just always seemed like he wasn’t mentally prepared.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@dylans no what?
You are truly blessed if you haven’t heard and I won’t be the one to tell you. Wait! I mean the saying!!! Nothing more, please don’t read into this. You’re beautiful human being. Yikes. I’m done.
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Devon Dotson declares with an agent. We will see whether he returns
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If Dotson is gone, yea, we’re going to struggle. I don’t think he is though.
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WOOF
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BShark said:
WOOF
Come on down RJ Hamp, oh wait probably go to Memphis followed by Duke, followed by some random team not recruiting him with cash
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His comment said he was keeping full ncaa eligibility so I would not say he was gone quite this quick. I would say he was doing the smart thing personally.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Yep. Sure sounds like he’s done at KU forever and ever. /s
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
WOOF
Come on down RJ Hamp, oh wait probably go to Memphis followed by Duke, followed by some random team not recruiting him with cash
I Just said the same thing. – If Devon does well enough in the NBA combine nd decides to stay in - -with him and Grimes both gone - leaves the door WIDE OPEN for Hampton to step right in - - major minutes. - Only thing is he said he would love to play with other elite talent? - - - - must be talking about mitch - -lmao - -but wait Mitch going to be playing point next year - -Garrett playing the 2 - -where would we play him lmao
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After seeing this - - wouldn’t surprise me at all - - Ochai see’s what’s returning and HE declares for the NBA - I mean hell why not? - -heard the trainer is declaring for the NBA might as well lol
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Hearing breaking news just now.
KU ball boy John Doe declares for NBA draft with intent to sign an agent.
When asked why he is forgoing his NCAA Eligibility with 3 years left, John cited KU’s 2018 2019 struggles with shooting the ball.
“Too much work tracking down missed shots this year”. " In the NBA These guys make shots at a higher rate and I think I’ll able to score a few autographs over time".
" great opportunity for the kid" was Self’s comment when we caught up with him outside Allen Fieldhouse.
Self was confident his program could absorb the loss citing the ever growing transfer market these days. " we will get a few real guys in here".
John was asked where he’d like to play, saying “LA of course, Lebron is out there, they tryin to get AD and some others”. Magic is gone, Walton is gone but they will rebound.
John thanked KU for his time as a Jayhawk, “God put me in a great position to have a successful career and of course Bill Self, a Hall of Fame coach has put me in the best position possible as well”. “Look at all the guys in the league”
John becomes the 18th program member to leave since the shocking 2nd round defeat against Auburn in the NCAA tournament. Currently KU has just two recruits signed for the 2019 2020 season. Self mentioned they are busy on the recruiting trail this time of year.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Hearing breaking news just now.
KU ball boy John Doe declares for NBA draft with intent to sign an agent.
When asked why he is forgoing his NCAA Eligibility with 3 years left, John cited KU’s 2018 2019 struggles with shooting the ball.
“Too much work tracking down missed shots this year”. " In the NBA These guys make shots at a higher rate and I think ill able to score a few autographs over time".
" great opportunity for the kid" was Self’s comment when we caught up with him outside Allen Fieldhouse.
Self was confident his program could absorb the loss citing the ever growing transfer market these days. " we will get a few real guys in here".
John was asked where he’d like to play, saying “LA of course, Lebron is out there, they tryin to get AD and some others”. Magic is gone, Walton is gone but they will rebound.
John thanked KU for his time as a Jayhawk, “God put me in a great position to have a successful career and of course Bill Self, a Hall of Fame coach has put me in the best position possible.”
John becomes the 18th program member to leave since the shocking 2nd round defeat against Auburn in the NCAA tournament. Currently KU has just two recruits signed for the 2019 2020 season. Self mentioned they are busy on the recruiting trail this time of year
Dam you beat me to the punch - -I said the Trainer going to declare. - like I said wouldn’t surprise me - Ochai see’s who is returning and HE declares - wouldn’t surprise me at all
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@jayballer73 , @BeddieKU23 - Any rumors on the guys selling soft drinks and food? You guys are hilarious!!
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Gorilla72 said:
@jayballer73 , @BeddieKU23 - Any rumors on the guys selling soft drinks and food? You guys are hilarious!!
lmao - - not yet - - -stand by - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BeddieKU23 Good stuff!
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Yep. Sure sounds like he’s done at KU forever and ever. /s
You about gave me a heart attack. I thought a new statement had been released.
I need a sarcasm font.
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dylans said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Yep. Sure sounds like he’s done at KU forever and ever. /s
You about gave me a heart attack. I thought a new statement had been released.
I need a sarcasm font.
I tried with the /s man!!
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Welcome to Kansas.
Where you dont even need to play to declare for the draft.
http://m.kusports.com/news/2019/apr/15/ku-sophomore-silvio-de-sousa-facing-potentially-im/
All out redicilous
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@BeddieKU23 Are you referring Grimes? Hold on, I’m being told Grimes actually DID play this past season.
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HighEliteMajor said:
@BeddieKU23 Are you referring Grimes? Hold on, I’m being told Grimes actually DID play this past season.
I can confirm he played, he just didn’t play very well.
I guess when you play at KU now your so famous and good playing in games isn’t even required to try and make the NBA
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BeddieKU23 said:
Welcome to Kansas.
Where you dont even need to play to declare for the draft.
http://m.kusports.com/news/2019/apr/15/ku-sophomore-silvio-de-sousa-facing-potentially-im/
All out redicilous
Do you blame him? Might as well go through the process while the NCAA decides whether you get to play this decade.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Welcome to Kansas.
Where you dont even need to play to declare for the draft.
http://m.kusports.com/news/2019/apr/15/ku-sophomore-silvio-de-sousa-facing-potentially-im/
All out redicilous
Do you blame him? Might as well go through the process while the NCAA decides whether you get to play this decade.
I dont blame him at all but if this is what playing for KU has become, I’m not impressed. Such as life as a fan these days. Silvio has been screwed every which way this year. Shocked he didnt leave already
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@BeddieKU23 at least he can show himself. Not a lot of choices for him.
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If Silvio can’t play for KU next year he needs to figure out his best course of action. The feedback will be invaluable to his decision making process.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BeddieKU23 at least he can show himself. Not a lot of choices for him.
Show himself where? Very unlikely he’s getting a combine invite. Maybe he gets a few workouts.
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@BeddieKU23 Just curious - why do you feel like he won’t get an invite?
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nuleafjhawk said:
@BeddieKU23 Just curious - why do you feel like he won’t get an invite?
Only about 60 guys, give or take a few, get invited. I very much doubt Silvio cracks the 60 most intriguing players. It’s not out of the question, but it’s also very unlikely imo.
Besides the 60 guys getting mocked, you have guys going undrafted I know teams will want to see more than Silvio. Kerwin Roach, Martin Brothers, Luke Maye, Donta Hall, Matur Maker.
Throw in some guys from overseas. Throw in a few more guys that inexplicably leave.
I think it will be very hard for Silvio to make the cut as he is not elite size, and has not shown any ability the NBA is currently coveting.
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@Kcmatt7 but those that don’t get invited, don’t they still get some feedback of some sort? I’m pretty sure they know they won’t get in that 60.
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@Kcmatt7 Thanks for the feedback. I was wondering, because everyone (KU fans) made such a big deal about him the past …hundred years - however long it’s been since he’s been our pine rider. I thought he was supposed to be like Zion if he ever got to lace up.
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nuleafjhawk said:
@BeddieKU23 Just curious - why do you feel like he won’t get an invite?
For starters the fact he didn’t play last year.
I was optimistic about his potential this past season and felt his absence was as big as losing Doke. He just fit what the team needed down low.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Yes, it does let them get some feedback usually.
