Free Chat here.
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We played out of control from the tip-off. I’m very confused by the pace in which we tried to play this game.
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Chuck’s shot selection is bizarre.
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I’ve seen us make a lot of comebacks and have always felt we had a shot in those… This is not like any of those.
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My guess is we are still a top 20 team in the next poll.
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Got a better shot with the walk-ons at this point
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I could tell they would shoot more than 10% over their typical 3pt percentage once we gave them the shot of confidence.
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kJ?
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smooth move there, KJ
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Bill Self does not know how to coach perimeter D. He’s proven that.
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KJ = scrub Moore = scrub
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This is the worst I’ve seen KU look from start to finish in a game since the TCU “Topeka YMCA” game.
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Yes… That is the last time we looked this crappy.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Charlie Moore is not a D1 basketball player
So Charlie isn’t - – hmmm sure looks like he isn’t the only one - with this Olay TEAM defense if that what you want o call it - -this is a TEAM LOSS - -this won’t be the only time with the way this team attempts to play defense & guys jacking up shots.- - they said we were held when they said this 25 points under their average - -well ya that’s an obvious statement when you have 24 turnovers - just a pathetic effort
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Ever? Our record there fran?
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Good thing ISU isn’t a good 3pt shooting team. Only 52% today.
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No Doke (or Silvio), so this isn’t the end of the world
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Let’s real for a minute KJ, Moore and Lightfoot are all not D1 level players at least not at the power 5 level. Complete waste of scholarships IMO.
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kjayhawks said:
Let’s real for a minute KJ, Moore and Lightfoot are all not D1 level players at least not at the power 5 level. Complete waste of scholarships IMO.
Disagree
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I’ll be at the isu game, I got it!
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Never have I welcomed the Bill Self rotation trimming more than right now. KJ and Moore shouldn’t see court before the outcome of a game is certain.
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Aaand…yet another trey from the Clones. Seen this movie way too many times before.
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Texas Hawk 10 said:
Worst game by Dotson and Vick and Dedric all season.
last I heard Vick 7 turnover’s - - -Dotson 5 turnover’s high school ball
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Fran, why did Fred’s daughter go to ku?
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Came out of the locker room with even less poise.
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See you in Lawrence, clowns.
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Came out of the locker room with even less poise.
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Hope this motivates the team. Sky is not falling, but this was a messy loss.
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Fugly. Hopefully Grimes is getting in his groove. Earth to Vick. Earth to Vick.
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Rock Chalk, Shayok
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approxinfinity said:
Never have I welcomed the Bill Self rotation trimming more than right now. KJ and Moore shouldn’t see court before the outcome of a game is certain.
New rotation:
- Dotson - 40 minutes
- Grimes - 40 minutes
- Vick - 40 minutes if he’s hot, sub him out if he plays like an idiot. Sub Garrett
- Dedric - 40 minutes
- Doke - 30 minutes and sub Big Dave.
That’s it. 7 man.
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@approxinfinity excalty, they are completely a waste at this point. We maybe SDS to be successful this season and that may not happen.
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@Crimsonorblue22 The way we were playing defense - -the way we turned the ball over - wouldn’t of mattered - -Arizona State - - ya - -Today no way
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Shayok seems like a good kid
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Garrett needs to start over Vick and run point and let Dotson play off the ball. Dotson is better off the ball and Garrett is better when it’s in his hands running the show.
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Kcmatt7 said:
approxinfinity said:
Never have I welcomed the Bill Self rotation trimming more than right now. KJ and Moore shouldn’t see court before the outcome of a game is certain.
New rotation:
- Dotson - 40 minutes
- Grimes - 40 minutes
- Vick - 40 minutes if he’s hot, sub him out if he plays like an idiot. Sub Garrett
- Dedric - 40 minutes
- Doke - 30 minutes and sub Big Dave.
That’s it. 7 man.
I remember when we thought this team was deep.
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It’s funny. I thought we would be absolutely stacked.
We are not. We are thin. We do not shoot well.
Only positive today was Grimes. Except that for some reason he did something to piss Bill off and Self continues to put Moore in for him. Which is dumbfounding at this point.
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@Bwag me too
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@Kcmatt7 we don’t want any Mitch in that rotation?
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Taking Silvio and Doke out of this team too much to overcome.
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approxinfinity said:
@Kcmatt7 we don’t want any Mitch in that rotation?
Unplayable with a team that can’t shoot because he doesn’t look to score.
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We can’t afford Vick to turn into a vegetable. That’s the thing I struggle to believe we will overcome. When your lone deadeye is prone to bad decisions it’s a problem. Makes me think whenever he touches the ball he should be bombing and not looking to create. ? I don’t have the answer. Need to think about how we should be using him
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approxinfinity said:
We can’t afford Vick to turn into a vegetable. That’s the thing I struggle to believe we will overcome. When your lone deadeye is prone to bad decisions it’s a problem. Makes me think whenever he touches the ball he should be bombing and not looking to create. ?
He has 0 basketball IQ and all the talent in the world.
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@approxinfinity Vick has never been a dead eye shooter though. He’s always been streaky. Dotson is one that can be a dead eye shooter, but he needs to be off the ball more to get more open looks.
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NCAA should be sued for negligence. It should not take this long to look into the issue and make a ruling. Holding a school and a student-athlete in limbo indefinitely is either a sign of gross incompetence or of deliberate malfeasance. They should be called on it.
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@bskeet sadly if it was a Duke or UNC player the ruling would’ve been made months ago. Sometimes I hope the NCAA gets replaced at some point and isn’t so Biased, the ACC and SEC have been giving loop holes left and right year after year.
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Alabama and Clemson.
Nuff said.
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Bout the only positive thing today was seeing Q be aggressive and make some plays. Other than that, every step in AFH should hit my these guys for being lazy.
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We don’t have to look very hard at all for this . – - Vick - -7 turnovers - - -Lawson- -6 turnovers - - -& Dotson- -5 - - turnovers - = - -18 of our 24 turnovers - - + - 52% - - -3pt shooting- - -pretty easy not hard to figure out why the loss - - now who in here didn’t know they would Double every dam time Dedric down low when he touched the ball - -he needs to stop shooting the 3 – 17 % coming into this game
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I’m not sweating this game. We looked pretty crappy, played terrible, and got our ass handed to us. It’s January 5th, folks. We looked really bad at this time last year as well, and it worked out pretty good. No doubt we have a long way to go. I’m real excited to see Grimes play well. He was pretty much the only bright spot today. Hopefully Doke will feel good enough he’ll want to play for us at some point in the future, although I don’t think it would’ve helped much today. We live to fight another day.
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Ouch
