The les miles effect in recruiting
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@Kcmatt7 basically took the words off my keyboard. Without a clear link to Ohio, it will be tough to beat out (in some order) Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Penn State, Kentucky, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Indiana and Purdue. And that doesn’t include Cincinnati, West Virginia and then close to home options like Akron, Bowling Green, Kent State, etc. for the three star that wants to stay in the area. That’s a hard hill to climb, and KU does not, at least not yet, have a link to Ohio.
We have a link to Louisiana. Without Hull (and now Miles), we would not be getting these guys from Louisiana. LSU, Alabama, Texas A&M, Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Arkansas, etc. would be taking those players.
I’d love for KU to get into Ohio (and Florida, Georgia, California), but we honestly don’t have the connections to win a lot of those battles right now. We do have the connections to get guys from the areas mentioned yesterday, and that’s how you can rebuild the program. Then you can reach into Ohio.
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I’m so happy to see these football boards talking about us recruiting the traditional football hot spots. The past several years we’re happy to get a couple of good walk ons and maybe a guy from Hutch Juco or somewhere.
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Donte Starks twitter is KU strong atm. Makes me think he is KU bound???
https://twitter.com/donte_starks8/status/1071536061514477568
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Benton Smith
@BentonASmith 20m 20 minutes ago
More KU announces Les Miles has hired Mike Ekeler as special teams coordinator. Last job was at UNC as LBs coach. Ekeler worked with Miles at LSU.
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@nuleafjhawk hey now on hutch juco!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Not a slam on them at all !!
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https://www.lubbockonline.com/news/20181212/desoto-receiver-breaks-tech-commitment
La’Vontae Shenault 4 star Wide Receiver re-opens recruitment. His lead recruiter at TT was KU’s new WR coach Emmett Jones.
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Looks like Les has filled 7 of the open coaching positions at this time. I am wondering if he will leave room to retain Hull, and at what capacity. Sounds like he is still working hard for KU. Hope it pays big dividends. Only 3 positions left to fill.
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Boy grabbing Starks would be a coup. 5 days.
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I heard at coffee this morning that the new Kitty coach would be in Lawrence tomorrow to talk with a couple Free State boys. This info from some kstate fans. Does anyone know who they might be? And is our staff in contact with them also? Sure hope we do not let them come into our home town and steal our kids. Especially if they are D1 worthy. DAMN!!!
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Big Clyde52 said:
I heard at coffee this morning that the new Kitty coach would be in Lawrence tomorrow to talk with a couple Free State boys. This info from some kstate fans. Does anyone know who they might be? And is our staff in contact with them also? Sure hope we do not let them come into our home town and steal our kids. Especially if they are D1 worthy. DAMN!!!
you can take it to the bank that the two he will be talking to is the one that is already committed to KSU- - what’s his name ( Garber or is it Barber & Dineen) – the talk has been since Synder resigned -that KU was trying to get Barber to flip - -there has been talk of him and Dineen wanting to be a package. - -Man I would think with Jax’s brother playing here he would want to come also - -it he comes to KU then the other might come here to with the other free state guys on the roster.
That is the two you can almost bet is the one’s he is coming to talk to - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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You know I almost think - -Coach is filling his staff - -wanting to fill his staff and announcing his staff - -THEN he will come out and announce Tony. - -I think Tony already knows that he has been retained - -Coach more then likely already told him - -everything been settled. - -Les just wanting to announce the others first , then let it be known about Tony - - Coach will get the other 9 signed - -I just think Tony is here. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 Have to find a role for him. He’s here, just don’t know what his title will be. At least that is my best guess.
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@jayballer73 Thanks. I do remember them saying the name Keenan Garber. Agree it looks like Dineen would want to follow his brothers.
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@jayballer73 I hope you and @kcmatt7 are right. He is still out there recruiting for us, which is great. But he is probably still under contract until Feb. like the other coaches.
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Big Clyde52 said:
@jayballer73 Thanks. I do remember them saying the name Keenan Garber. Agree it looks like Dineen would want to follow his brothers.
Not really sure how this is going to turn out , I was thinking we had a good shot with these guys, but again have been reading and AGAIN it’s just a he said - - she said like a bunch of ol ladies gossiping but , just read to day that supposedly - - Les didn’t want to offer Jax a scholarship but KU wanted him to walk on - - hearing that the Dineen family wasn’t reeving that to well. seeing that they had 2 other Dineen’s already play for us at KU
I guess the new KSU coach has had an in home visit with Jax and the family – went pretty well - -and THEY offered a full ride stressing that fullback was a part of their offensive set. - -Then I guess North Dakota or South whichever the hell it was NDS - also had offered a full ride
So with those two schools offering full rides to a walk on that’s not good if true - -you combine that with Garber already giving a verbal to KSU -it could turn out that indeed Jax teams up with Keenan as a package and commits to K-state , again just jibber - - jabber like old ladies how solid info is it? - -I dunno. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Well sounds like a pretty sweet opportunity for us on another flip. - - -Keith Miller who had committed to Texas Tech - -just decommitted from Tech.
Of course Jaden Russell out doing his part recruiting for us lol. - -He Tweeted to Miller: ( my boy got that KU offer and realized we are building something special - - - - tweeted to Miller you already one move closer to becoming a Jayhawk not just make the call and the rest is history. - - - Miller responded I hear ya family ) - -so hmmm you never know - -he would re-connect with Jones if he comes here. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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SO just to let all doubters thinking we had no chance - - - Dante Starks will decide between LSU -& KU Monday - -so see indeed WE DO have that shot - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 my lsu buddy says hes a wrap to lsu hes the one that told me we would get pooka
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ReggieKansas said:
@jayballer73 my lsu buddy says hes a wrap to lsu hes the one that told me we would get pooka
well guess we shall see- - he is not very happy with their fanbase at all
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Well ya , looks like we might have possibly missed on Dante Starks - -went to the Louisiana Boards and went under their football recruiting - -found the article about commits.
Said in the article Devante on a post/twitter seen where it said Starks was going to sign on National signing day that he changed his mind and on his twitter he stated he was going to be signing @ 8;00 a.m. 12-19 - -at Jalen Ehret High School - -that was tweeted at 11:44 on Dec 14th
Well time to move on - -ew are going to be all right - -thought we had a real shot - -anyways rock chalk all day long baby
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https://twitter.com/Val__jr/status/1073992908049694720
Hard to see Agbaw ending up anywhere but KU…
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@BShark - was this section (from which the video was taken) full of player visitors on OV or Un-OV? The section seemed a bit disinterested, sitting when the rest of the fieldhouse was standing. It was a combination of parents and teens with official badges of some sort.
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Added Ezra Naylor today. Big bodied JUCO WR. For w/e reason, the staff is going HARD after wrs, they must not like what is on the roster already.
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Well have read at least of - Reggie Todd receiving his offer - -a former SEC receiver , - Ray Vchasek was in - – -Justin Ford has closed his recruiting and announcing then the commit Of Naylor.
So we have went from ONE commit to now FIVE - -and we know there will be more - -just interesting to see who that’s gonna be. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BShark said:
Added Ezra Naylor today. Big bodied JUCO WR. For w/e reason, the staff is going HARD after wrs, they must not like what is on the roster already.
And it’s a big need. We’re graduating 4 scholarship WR’s and the returnees are less than inspiring.
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BShark said:
https://twitter.com/Val__jr/status/1073992908049694720
Hard to see Agbaw ending up anywhere but KU…
Oh it’s done.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Added Ezra Naylor today. Big bodied JUCO WR. For w/e reason, the staff is going HARD after wrs, they must not like what is on the roster already.
And it’s a big need. We’re graduating 4 scholarship WR’s and the returnees are less than inspiring.
I think he just instantly in love with the environment - -always a big recruiting for us. - -ya it was basketball - -but it NOW can really help us in football to
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I’ve got a question and it doesn’t deal with any one here or AT LEAST I haven’t seen anyone here mention of this.
My question is and a lot of others wondering also - -noticing already there are some that is disappointed at our recruits so far - -not liking the caliber of recruits we pulling in. - -My response to a train of thought like that is - - -WTF
Come on know – let’s get real - - -pull your baggie out - -take a good hit - -then step back - - slap your bitch as and get a really good cold hard dose of what people call – REALITY.
What in the hell are some people thinking? Coach Miles coming in here at this late of stage in recruiting and we have some just insane idiots that just because it’s Les Miles he is ONLY going to land 5 * recruits - - -umm HELLO - - - -Houston - - we have a problem - -for these kind of thinking idiots - -get your head - -out that ass and realize , no matter who the hell you are it’s gonna take time - -just try and remember how sorry this dam program’s shape it’s in
So to thoseof you thinking like that – now Step Back give yourself a good really fricken hard sucker punch to the groin - -and say oh shit guess maybe these others are right. - -He comes in and has to try an assemble a staff - - plus recruit in what like right about 2 months?
I think with the amount of time Les ha had - -assemble staff and then umm let’s go back down memory lane shall we? - - GOOD - -so let’s take a lil looksie back to not that long ago -we had ONE – - -ONE fricken recruit with nothing on the horizon - -and yet now we have FIVE – Five in that short amount of time - -are they 5 * - no - -but for the amount of time Coach has had - -he has done fine
Now you give Les and the Staff a full year to recruit? - -you just sit back - - hide and watch - -see how this guy recruits - - Holy Bat Shit - -I mean GOG - -DOGGIES - - REALLY? --SERIOUSLY? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Just got a commitment from Naylor’s team mate Andrew Parchment. Another WR.
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Parchment and Naylor are freaky athletes. Really big too. Immediately juices the running game. Both should be here next month.
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BShark said:
Just got a commitment from Naylor’s team mate Andrew Parchment. Another WR.
like some are saying I think we are probably done in this class with Juco WR’S - -watch his film - -he looks a little taller then 6’3 to me - -more like 6’4 or even a tad then that - -looks long nice hands
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@BShark Our top 3 receivers in Booker, Johnson and Sims all graduated so not a huge surprise.
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@jayballer73 people are just bit**ing to do it, unfortunately all fans bases have those guys. I thought we’d be lucky to get a few 4 stars with this class. If that doesn’t happen then so be it, as you said it’s plenty late in the game and most guys will probably sign here in the early session. The most important thing is to fill up all 15 spots we can with the most talented guys we can get. I don’t like seeing a high number of jucos but we have to get what we can at this point. Next years recruiting class will the one that Miles should be judged off of. If we can win 4 ( MM was the last coach to win more than 3 in 2009) or more games, that would be huge to show guys how fast he can turn this around with the right talent.
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KU does have a couple of good receivers coming back. Stephon Robinson was solid all year and Daylon Charlot came on strong the last couple of games to give himself some momentum going into next season. KU really only needs one more reliable receiver for next year to have a solid receiving group.
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Cole Mueller decommitted. Have to take it as a sign they have 15 better in mind.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Cole Mueller decommitted. Have to take it as a sign they have 15 better in mind.
Has to be the case. Seemed upset based on the tweet.
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like is pointed out off other sites. - -There was no thank the staff or thanks for the opportunity at the end of his tweet.
Sounds pretty much like the staff told him umm sure you can come out - -BUT - -you might wanna check out other opportunities - -Might of wanted him to try and change to another position. - -just kind of think that umm - - - - ya. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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We got Terry. My god I love that kid.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
We got Terry. My god I love that kid.
Amazing find, imo.
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HUGE GET.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Cole Mueller decommitted. Have to take it as a sign they have 15 better in mind.
Perhaps not necessarily next season but more likely moving forward when the staff has had a chance to recruit and the message its sends is that KU will be getting high caliber prospects and 3 star players might not see much playing time in the future.
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BShark said:
HUGE GET.
I see what you did there.
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Terry could be a very interesting player for KU. He’s maybe a bit of a project, but he has the physical tools to be an interior force. Even more importantly, he opens a potential secondary recruiting pipeline into Mississippi. While KU can’t necessarily count on always getting into a state like Mississippi for recruits, having connections there will always help, as Mississippi turns out a good amount of talent every year.
So far we have three HS players and three juco players. Parchment was previously at Northern Illinois, while Naylor committed to Kennesaw State (FCS) out of HS. That should immediately boost the offense by having a new QB and some new threats on the outside.
Still looking for some defensive signings at the juco level. Having the HS guys is good for the future, but the D could use some stabilizing forces as well with Dineen graduating.
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Expect a lot of news these next two days. I expect 3 or 4 more guys. Definitely 2.
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Flipped JUCO DE Caleb Sampson. Former Missouri player before JUCO.
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3x3 guy. Huge.
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I’d say Miles is thinking he’s got 15 players ready to come and that’s why Mueller decommitted. We probably would have kept him if we were gonna be a man or 2 short.
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I’m surprised we haven’t heard anything from Jax Dineen at this point. I’d say the attempts to turn Garber either failed or didn’t happen with the receivers we have just got. One other kid here in KS I thought we would try and turn was McCullough, 3 star safety outta Blue Valley North thats got a verbal to Miami (OH). You never whos name will come thru once the fax machine gets fired up tomorrow.
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@kjayhawks rumor is we didn’t offer Jax a full scholarship, or wanted him to blue/Grey shirt.