Jayhawk-Warrior chat here.
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Kcmatt7 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Kcmatt7 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Kcmatt7 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
StLJhawk said:
Fair enough. I Just have trouble with the “entitlement” vibe here sometimes. We can’t win em all.
Cool. I have a problem with our perimeter defense.
17 points so far in the 2nd half… I still think this team ends up being dominate defensively. My 1st half meltdown has been rescinded.
291st ranked team in 3-point defense. Got torched in the 1st half knowing that Marquette was going to shoot 3’s. Played better in the 2nd half. Good. Still a lot of work to do if they want to be a dominant defensive team.
Based on what? Percentage? I can find favorable stats. 3rd ranked Kenpom defense before the game. And I’ll go ahead and say it will still be ranked top 5 after holding a good offensive Marquette team to under 70 points.
Yes, based on 3-point percentage. As I’ve said for the 100th time now. And my complaint was about Kansas’ perimeter defense and opponent 3-point percentage. Thank you for finding KenPom stats for me, though.
Thanks for finding 3pt % for me.
I complained about opponents shooting 3’s against Kansas. I found opponents 3-point percentage against Kansas.
You found random KenPom stats. Good job I guess?
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@BShark I’m glad to see Duke lose. And that Kentucky took a loss too.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Kcmatt7 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Kcmatt7 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Kcmatt7 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
StLJhawk said:
Fair enough. I Just have trouble with the “entitlement” vibe here sometimes. We can’t win em all.
Cool. I have a problem with our perimeter defense.
17 points so far in the 2nd half… I still think this team ends up being dominate defensively. My 1st half meltdown has been rescinded.
291st ranked team in 3-point defense. Got torched in the 1st half knowing that Marquette was going to shoot 3’s. Played better in the 2nd half. Good. Still a lot of work to do if they want to be a dominant defensive team.
Based on what? Percentage? I can find favorable stats. 3rd ranked Kenpom defense before the game. And I’ll go ahead and say it will still be ranked top 5 after holding a good offensive Marquette team to under 70 points.
Yes, based on 3-point percentage. As I’ve said for the 100th time now. And my complaint was about Kansas’ perimeter defense and opponent 3-point percentage. Thank you for finding KenPom stats for me, though.
Thanks for finding 3pt % for me.
I complained about opponents shooting 3’s against Kansas. I found opponents 3-point percentage against Kansas.
You found random KenPom stats. Good job I guess?
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And just like that, we looked like a ranked team.
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Will Virginia break 50 points?
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@Bwag no
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Bwag said:
Will Virginia break 50 points?
Probably, but maybe not 60.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Kcmatt7 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Kcmatt7 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Kcmatt7 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
StLJhawk said:
Fair enough. I Just have trouble with the “entitlement” vibe here sometimes. We can’t win em all.
Cool. I have a problem with our perimeter defense.
17 points so far in the 2nd half… I still think this team ends up being dominate defensively. My 1st half meltdown has been rescinded.
291st ranked team in 3-point defense. Got torched in the 1st half knowing that Marquette was going to shoot 3’s. Played better in the 2nd half. Good. Still a lot of work to do if they want to be a dominant defensive team.
Based on what? Percentage? I can find favorable stats. 3rd ranked Kenpom defense before the game. And I’ll go ahead and say it will still be ranked top 5 after holding a good offensive Marquette team to under 70 points.
Yes, based on 3-point percentage. As I’ve said for the 100th time now. And my complaint was about Kansas’ perimeter defense and opponent 3-point percentage. Thank you for finding KenPom stats for me, though.
Thanks for finding 3pt % for me.
I complained about opponents shooting 3’s against Kansas. I found opponents 3-point percentage against Kansas.
You found random KenPom stats. Good job I guess?
Its just simply not the only stat that matters for a defense as a whole. And I’d think after a 2nd half of clearly making the adjustment you’d see that? You’re right, we need to improve and do better on a consistent basis. But, we showed that we can. What did we allow, four 3s in the 2nd half? That wasn’t just cold shooting. That was good perimeter defense.
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@Kcmatt7 The 2nd half was a very encouraging sign. I hope they keep it up!
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I wasn’t complaining about our defense as a whole, I was specifically complaining about our 3-point defense. Before the game. During the game. After the game.
Yes, the perimeter defense was better in the 2nd half. I agree.
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Dotson was extremely good tonight. He shut down Markus Howard completely in the 2nd half.
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I would love to hear Selfs halftime “talk” . Going to assume there would be a lot of “bleeps”
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@Kcmatt7 we allowed 10 attempts- that is the key. Cut their attempts by more than 50%.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
I wasn’t complaining about our defense as a whole, I was specifically complaining about our 3-point defense. Before the game. During the game. After the game.
Yes, the perimeter defense was better in the 2nd half. I agree.
I will say that I’m surprised Bill didn’t make it an emphasis this season (so far) after the Nova game.
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When KU decides to guard they are scary good. When they don’t, they are very beatable.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
I wasn’t complaining about our defense as a whole, I was specifically complaining about our 3-point defense. Before the game. During the game. After the game.
Yes, the perimeter defense was better in the 2nd half. I agree.
This team will get better as the year goes on. This is typical of KU in November. KU will still win 30+ games, they will still win the regular season title, they will still be a 1 or 2 seed, they will still be in the KC region starting out in either Des Moines or Tulsa.
None of the issues with this team are things we haven’t seen from a Bill Self team just about every year in November.
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BShark said:
Dotson was extremely good tonight. He shut down Markus Howard completely in the 2nd half.
Dotson was the MVP tonight, imo.
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@Kcmatt7 I’d vote Dedric, but Dotson was very good.
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dylans said:
When KU decides to guard they are scary good. When they don’t, they are very beatable.
This team should not struggle on either end at any time. Too much talent.
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Hmm , Dedric plays against Quality opp. – Look how he played against Michigan ST = =Big time - - tonight 26 points and 12 rebounds. - -Is this how i’s going to be ? - -but last to starting to show Think they say he had 19 and then 26 tonight - -hope he can continue to improve as the season goes on ,
This game against Tennessee is gonna be a war. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer73 said:
Hmm , Dedric plays against Quality opp. – Look how he played against Michigan ST = =Big time - - tonight 26 points and 12 rebounds. - -Is this how i’s going to be ? - -but last to starting to show Think they say he had 19 and then 26 tonight - -hope he can continue to improve as the season goes on ,
This game against Tennessee is gonna be a war. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
3 assists 2 blocks and just 1 turnover as well. Great game from Dedric.
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BShark said:
@Kcmatt7 I’d vote Dedric, but Dotson was very good.
He came to play tonight. And his rebounding is so good night in and night out that I probably don’t appreciate it enough.
I just thought Dotson was pesky on D all night long and made a ton of good decisions on O. His speed alone was responsible for at least 8 points tonight.
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@Kcmatt7 Very excited about Dotson. Especially if we get 3 years.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 do we win the Natl Championship? Do we have the talent to?
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Who can explain Marcus Garrett’s shooting style? I’ve never seen a successful shooter with one shoulder away from the basket. Garrett doesn’t even try to square his shoulders. But, I like how active he is, just not his shots.
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@Kcmatt7 and yet we have struggled at both ends at times. I do agree with @Texas-Hawk-10 that we will grow and continue to improve.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 It seemed the Roy Williams teams would sometimes come out in November and be as good as they were going to get all season. I like that Bill’s teams get better all season.
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Go CLE
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KU held Marquette to 21 points in the second half; did not score in the first 9 minutes or so. I call this very good defense.
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Watching the Above the Rim feed. Not bad!
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Dotson was a stud, but after all my doggin on Dedric so far, he kept cool and, somewhat Perrylike in its quietness, had a great game. I give him the mvp. Tho without Doke (as usual) we’d have been hurtin
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I didn’t think Dok was a factor at all: 6 pts. 4 rbs and 0 blocks. I thought he should have been put back in during the last 2 min when the game was won just to get him back on track offensively. Dok’s defense was solid during the little time the refs allowed him play.
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Doke on the bench all late first half, got our butts kicked. Doke playing hard all early second half, out scored them 22-0. Coincidence?
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StLJhawk said:
Doke on the bench all late first half, got our butts kicked. Doke playing hard all early second half, out scored them 22-0. Coincidence?
Doke is very important.
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Bwag said:
@Kcmatt7 and yet we have struggled at both ends at times. I do agree with @Texas-Hawk-10 that we will grow and continue to improve.
I believe both statements are true about every team in college basketball in November!
