Poor Silvio
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Silvio, specifically, is going to crush WVU.
So are we to believe the poster that said someone on the team told him Silvio was playing Saturday?
@BeddieKU23 I must have missed the post about someone on the team saying SDS would play Saturday. Was that on some other site? The only thing I’ve seen is the Seth Davis tweet.
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Yeah someone on the Phog (now 247’s) KU site started a thread saying he heard Silvio will play and start Saturday. He was asked about his source and said someone on the team. After that he backtracked and said he had a family source- someone in his family lives in Lawrence and relayed the message to him. He think between the Seth Davis info and his information passed on to him KU fans should feel good about him playing on Saturday.
Certainly no verifiable information but we’ll know most likely within the next 24 hours or Saturday Morning whether that’s happening. I wouldn’t hold my breathe to it
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@BeddieKU23 I feel great about Silvio playing against WVU.
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Also that thread really heated up, just went to read it.
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I can’t say I share your optimism but I’ll be happy if it happens. If its a strategic move to wait until the last minute I understand
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bcjayhawk said:
BShark said:
Also that thread really heated up, just went to read it.
@BShark Link please?
https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Board/103719/Contents/Silvio-Saturday-127936942/
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Self: “I don’t have any Silvio news. As of today, none.”
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Like Eric Berry – day-to-day. In perpetuity.
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Per Jeff Goodman:
Kansas’ Silivo De Sousa’s lawyer Scott Tompsett, sends out a letter to media members, stating that whatever was done against the NCAA rules was done without his knowledge or involvement. Asks for NCAA to reinstatement him immediately"
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https://twitter.com/jessenewell/status/1085996530887286784?s=21
Link to full statement
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Lawyered up. Let’s see how quickly they rule now
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This would seem like the first real item that claims SDS didn’t have knowledge. I like that the lawyer asked for reinstatement, didn’t “demand” it. Maybe the lawyer knows something is coming, releases a statement, so it appears his involvement caused movement. Pieces are maybe coming together.
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If it ends up in court, I like SDS’s chances. A judge is gonna laugh at that small some of money compared to what Newton’s dad got, regardless of if the loop hole is closed or not, it’s definitely foolish to sit some one for pocket change.
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I honestly have no idea how this will play out, mostly because the NCAA is very arbitrary and there’s a lot of grey area with Silvio.
I think Newton’s dad got around $180,000 from Mississippi St for Cam to play there. The $60,000 for Silvio to play at Maryland was never proven. So we’re good there.
There’s also the fact that Silvio is from Angola, has only known his guardian, Falmagne, for 3-4 years, and didn’t know about the $2500 payment for classes made to Falmagne. I don’t know if this really matters but if the NCAA’s decision is at all opinion-based it could.
There are a couple of things to note about the Dewan Hernandez ruling: one, Hernandez (not a parent/guardian) was alleged to have agreed to take monthly payments from Dawkins Sep 2017 to April 2018; two, the NCAA has a precedence of taking it easy on elite/blue-blood type programs and slaughtering mid-major programs. And while Miami isn’t a mid-major, they are very far from a blue-blood.
I think we may know by tomorrow, though, when KU leaves for WVU. If Silvio is ineligible he won’t be able to travel with the team. If he is eligible then he can travel, obviously. This assumes that Kansas declared Silvio ineligible this week.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich I would bet money on a positive announcement tomorrow, if such a thing were able to be bet on.
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https://twitter.com/jayhawkslant/status/1086074609210802180?s=21
Statement from Long. Nothing earth shattering , but first I’ve seen him address the situation .
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Fact is nobody knows jack. I asked around today and KU likes their case and feels like the process has been relatively cordial between them and the NCAA (mostly agreeing to the facts of the case) but nobody knows what the NCAA will do. For all anyone knows they could ask for more information after reviewing the case and make KU start from square two. Once the case goes to the NCAA there’s no timetable on them ruling. They actually don’t have to rule at all. My stance since the trial has been Silvio plays but may not be for awhile. I think it’ll be before February but don’t feel great about anything earlier.
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@FarmerJayhawk The NCAA can always be counted on to be crap.
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Thanks for sharing what you heard.
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HighEliteMajor said:
This would seem like the first real item that claims SDS didn’t have knowledge. I like that the lawyer asked for reinstatement, didn’t “demand” it. Maybe the lawyer knows something is coming, releases a statement, so it appears his involvement caused movement. Pieces are maybe coming together.
And Eric Berry IS playing Sunday. It’s all coming together indeed …
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Silvio did travel to Morgantown… we will see if that means something positive. Usually ineligible players cannot travel on the road
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@BeddieKU23 It’s a good sign. And I don’t remember him being with the team in Waco last Saturday. Fingers Crossed
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@BeddieKU23 It’s a good sign. And I don’t remember him being with the team in Waco last Saturday. Fingers Crossed
I dont think he was. Hopefully some good news tomm
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I think he was
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He was … I saw him in the bench.
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He hasn’t been ineligible
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
He hasn’t been ineligible
“It’s time for the NCAA to be fair to Silvio and immediately reinstate his eligibility,” wrote Scott Tompsett, of Tompsett Collegiate Sports Law in Kansas City, Mo.
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That settles that then I suppose.
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Silvio was in Waco. He’s been traveling with the team all season so this isn’t an indication one way or the other.
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Once Cheick De Alexander gets reinstated we’re gonna tear up the Big 12!
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Ya, my mistake. I heard it said by multiple posters on a different site and assumed they weren’t all wrong.
Still have my fingers crossed.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich I’m glad you’ve got your ear the the rail, just having fun with it. I’m hopeful too.
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approxinfinity said:
@KirkIsMyHinrich I’m glad you’ve got your ear the the rail, just having fun with it. I’m hopeful too.
You’re good. I don’t take anything anyone here says personally except for @BShark. And if BShark says anything I’ll just burn his house down tbh.
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Apparently KU has not declared DeSousa ineligible at this point since he has traveled with the team. NCAA rules would not allow him to travel had he been declared ineligible. If you read the statement carefully it states that KU prepared to declare him ineligible, not that they have done so. Obviously things are still some distance from being worked out.
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Exactly. As I’ve mentioned before, this is solely KU’s decision to hold him out. KU just wants affirmation that they will receive no penalties if they play SDS.
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Let’s all hope he brought his uniform!
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I’m not sure that’s right about taking ineligible players ? WSU takes teddy buckets-the West Virginia player declared ineligible, but I thought they said it was determined by the school about traveling. I’ve been wrong before.
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@SouthernHawk Which statement?
The statement made yesterday by Silvio’s attorney Scott Tompsett said:
“It’s time for the NCAA to be fair to Silvio and immediately reinstate his eligibility.”
Implying that Silvio was ineligible at the time that statement was released.
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Previously, on Monday, a report from Seth Davis of the Athletic emerged that suggested KU could be moving forward with the process regarding the investigation into De Sousa’s eligibility by declaring him ineligible and asking the NCAA for reinstatement. Davis also made an “educated guess” that De Sousa would be “likely,” but “far from definite” to play in the Jayhawks’ next game against West Virginia.
This is what I meant by he was eligible and that we were declaring ineligible so we could move on declaring time spent sitting was enough!
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I hope that made sense?
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@Crimsonorblue22 Sure. But that report from Davis was published on Monday the 14th, 3 days prior to the statement from Tompsett.
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My understanding is that when there is a serious question about eligibility the NCAA and the school put a hold on the player’s eligibility status pending the school’s investigation, and then the findings are submitted. Then the NCAA makes its own review and determination.
Playing a player in a hold status means you are playing a player not determined to be eligible. At best, you can only hope to get away with it if all the facts completely dispel any questions about eligibility, but I think that even in those circumstances a school commits a new violation.
The NCAA determines every athlete’s eligibility. Until an athlete is declared eligible, you cannot play him. Silvio’s back at square one in this process.
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Guys I just feel and believe me I would hope to have Silvio – just like you , but we need to just realize , it’s not going to happen. - -Things just get crazy sometimes - -someone hears something and things blow up and people just run wild with it. - -It’s not going to happen guys.
If he hasn’t hit the floor by now at this stage in the season - - -he is not going to , The NCAA doesn’t give a tinkers dam about the kid/any kid - -gonna be their demise . - - I want him to/just not happening.
I have read of the phog , people on there making statements such as OH WELL they probably just not gonna say anything and then we see him in the line up Saturday – Coach Self just being quiet. – Really? - -what is your foundation for that statement? - -I mean what does Coach have to gain on us by Saying I have heard exactly Nothing - -Nothing at all? - -what does he have to gain by telling his fans that when Silvio is ready to play? - -he has nothing to gain - -why would he lie to us about something like that - -he doesn’t, I just think we have what we have to finish this year – I think we have seen the last of Silvio on a KU floor sad to say but I think he leaves at the end of the year when the dust is settled - -thanks to the NCAA - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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A good article that summarizes the SDS status. Quotes from Self regarding KU’s choice to withhold SDS from competition.
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Yes, but with the news yesterday about his attorney, the KC Star said earlier this week he was deemed ineligible by KU. And I’m pretty sure only eligible players can travel. I could be totally off though. From Top cap journalist
I was told it was a schools decision about an ineligible player traveling w/team. We usually don’t take them. But our transfers went with us last year. Guess that’s different.
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Hes in street clothes not playing today
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@Crimsonorblue22 Basically just in limbo. At this point the NCAA decides his fate
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@BeddieKU23 True. Of course we could have been playing him all along. We chose not to, and probably (obviously) wisely. The NCAA, much more importantly, will decide our fate.
I wonder how quickly the NCAA would have moved if we had played him?
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