Emporia State EXI
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Hey we broke 80.
IT TOOK AWHILE
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2nd half observations: We can rebound. Dedric is still good. Grimes is still good. Dotson is a solid PG. A lot of coachable things we can improve upon.
Overall, a good 1st day imo.
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stoptheflop said:
Strangely, I’m no longer worried about the point guard play. Dotson and Moore have been great. But, what’s up with the front court? Except for Dedric, the front court didn’t show up.
Moore has shot good, but overall this game I think he has been below average as a PG. Like, entry passes and initiating the offense have not been really good for him. I’d prefer Garrett in that role even.
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Agbaji looks good to me.
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@stoptheflop KJ and Garrett can play the 4. Agreed, Doke and Mccormack were not good, and Vick shouldnt have ever played the 4 in the first place, but did not look good at the 3.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Agbaji looks good to me.
Ochai can shoot it a bit
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I jumped the gun on my observations. Ochai looks like he could be a dude. I hope he redshirts.
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Agbaji!
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We sure we want Agbaji to redshirt?
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1 and 0
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approxinfinity said:
We sure we want Agbaji to redshirt?
No that dude a talent
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Alright so the only thing I was really disappointed in tonight was Doke. He looked bad. He needs to be better.
The turnovers and the slow 2nd-half are typical things with young/new teams.
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Red.Rooster said:
1 and 0
So talkative tonight.
Also, I only had like 3 upvotes. So clearly a warmup game for you as well
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approxinfinity said:
We sure we want Agbaji to redshirt?
Yes, actually. He can shoot and is athletic but he looked lost in other regards. If he isn’t going to get many minutes this year and is willing, the year off just studying the game could really help him improve.
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@Kcmatt7 lol, don’t be greedy.
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31 points (11-16) and 15 boards for Dr. Lawson. What a beast.
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What’s the score?
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@wissox 93-55 final.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Alright so the only thing I was really disappointed in tonight was Doke. He looked bad. He needs to be better.
The turnovers and the slow 2nd-half are typical things with young/new teams.
- If spacing is better, I think he has more outlets to pass out of a double-team.
- He won’t be double teamed as much.
I wouldn’t be worried yet. He did look rough tonight though. I do think he may end up getting a degree here though… I don’t think the NBA would touch him still.
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@approxinfinity That was my thought. That kid is miraculous from 3.
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@Red.Rooster The rooster!!! Welcome back, buddy…
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I’m digging the pre-game and post-game from ESPN+.
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@wissox Lawson 31 points…15 rebounds…
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These kids staring at the camera are cracking me up.
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Also, Doke will do better when we aren’t running up and down the court like this. And you can bet that we won’t be able to do that all season long. Add in that we basically didn’t run an offense tonight.
Doke is not an NBA guy (yet). He is not meant for an out of structure type of play (yet).
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@KirkIsMyHinrich It was pretty good. I liked that Bahe color guy. I wish they would spend a few bucks, and lose the headsets for gueldner and his partner.
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KUSTEVE said:
@KirkIsMyHinrich It was pretty good. I liked that Bahe color guy. I wish they would spend a few bucks, and lose the headsets for gueldner and his partner.
Said it earlier in the thread and the bar is low, but Bahe is probably the best color guy we have had for these JTV games.
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Is there a box score anywhere? @BShark You were logging stats, right?
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The way garrett plays, he’ll get a lot of minutes. He is just nails in every way except the 3 pointer. His drive to the basket was a work of art.
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Gonna be weird having a low post Wooden Winner after a Guard Winner and a Guard Runner Up.
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I really like the ESU coach. His interview has been fantastic!
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Craig Doty. A name to keep in the back of your mind. Charismatic 33 year old. I’ll try to remind myself to keep up with ESU this year.
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@Kcmatt7 I like him too. I thought he had a good game-plan doubling the post and the defensive rotations were good. They made some tough shots. They were just out-classed in terms of personnel. I agree, good coach.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@Kcmatt7 I like him too. I thought he had a good game-plan doubling the post and the defensive rotations were good. They made some tough shots. They were just out-classed in terms of personnel. I agree, good coach.
They played with the future national champions for most of the 2nd half. No shame in how they played tonight.
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Craig Doty’s a well-spoken coach. I’m interested to see how his team does this year.
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Really like this Emporia State coach’s interview. He’s smooth, optimistic, complimentary with specific details. Sharp.
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@BShark Thanks for posting this.
I am surprised Dotson only had 3 assists. I am also surprised we shot 40% from 3. That’s encouraging.
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Self stealing Ochai last minute was such an underrated move. Dude finds gems.
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Oh ha. I just repeated you @Kcmatt7
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approxinfinity said:
Oh ha. I just repeated you @Kcmatt7
I think that it really just speaks to how charasmatic he seemed lol. Three of us made a point to say something…
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@KirkIsMyHinrich @approxinfinity Yeah, Doty did the best he could with the players he had tbh.
@Kcmatt7 Kid was about to commit to Wisconsin, KU got in there just in time.
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I think they just showed a graphic of the Jayhawks box score lines. 10 guys on it, and Doke wasnt one of them. ouch.
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15 of the 22 turnovers were from Dedric, Doke, Dave, and Mitch. Need to be stronger in the post and better passing out of it. Especially Doke.
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Well let’s be honest we - - On to the next game. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY won, pretty easily but get Emporia St credit they kept trying especially in the 2nd half. combination of things they played more relaxed and our defensive intensity fell off for sure.
Observations: – Doke just looked really , really bad - - - I think 7 boards - -not sure how many to’s h had-- -still looks soo mechanical . like he is thinking way to much he is going to do. - -McCormack had a rough opener , - - -Vick looked really passive, - - But the worst of all ? - - - -WAY , WAY , to many turnovers , this part for having that many turnovers is inexcusable. – yet having played to say from great - - still win by 38 so ya - -lots of time for improvement and it was the 1st game - -for sure a lot of things to work on.
Now for some positive: Let’s just get this out here right off the bat - -sure it was Emporia State but still - - – D Lawson IS for real , let’s make no mistake about that. Sure he isn’t going to do this every time out but dam he mad it looks so smooth 31 - & 15 not a bad debut. – - - -Dotson just played a very solid game - - he going to be fine. - - - Garett had a good game on the boards like 8-9 I think – - - - Charlie hit some nice shots made a couple of nice passes - -Grimes was ok - -not terrific but ok.
I think I’m just to spoiled nit picking but I know there was others that probably have some of the same thoughts - it’s ok 1st game - Again probably the biggest letdown for me was WAY to many TO’s lots of work to do. – Every thing considered I don’t think Coach Self gonna really be that happy with tonight’s performance.-- -Not sure if I would be looking forward to tomorrow practice. - -Time for the next game - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@approxinfinity HE got 2 points -came on a dunk – Damm
