New 2019 Recruiting
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BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Ryan over at the Phog dropped these nuggets regarding Grimes.
Small fwiw, but if Grimes goes back to college it won’t be at Kansas. Have heard it’s possible he opts out and transfers, and now there are a few in the national NBA/Draft media that have mentioned it as well. I think there’s virtually no chance at him back at KU unless Dotson isn’t coming back AND Hampton isn’t joining the roster. Even then, I’m not entirely sure those bridges aren’t burned.
I feel bad for Grimes. I really do. It seems as though his inner circle is filled with delusional people who have and will continue to fail him. He should have never even declared.
This is one of my favorite movies, and this quote all too often comes to mind…
But what if this is all on Grimes himself?
I suppose it’s possible. But either way, whoever raised him let him get too big headed before he ever got to KU then. There was clearly no backup plan in case he struggled.
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Kcmatt7 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Hawk8086 said:
@BeddieKU23 I am worried about Wilson now. He was a fan of the Fab Five and he was named Jalen after…Jalen Rose.
Last I knew Jalen and Howard really didn’t like each other.
Yeah the only way Grimes is back is if Dotson stays in the draft and we whiff on Hampton.
Quoted today as saying that Howard getting hired at Michigan will probably end up bringing the Fab 5 back together.
I still feel some what confident -About Jalen. - -somethings going for us still
RJ being Jalen’s best friend - - how we really have his interest in the Sf situation - -stepping right into quality minutes , add those things on top of the Coach that he committed to come to Michigan to play for is gone - -add that to the fact that Yaklich sounds like he isn’t the happiest camper by not getting hired - -an with him being the lead recruiter for Wilson - -these things all have to play in our favor.
The top two Coach’s that was involved with you are gone or sounds like they are going to be gone - -you got a chance to play with your best friend - -one of the best schools in the game - -and like Jalen said never hear a gym as loud as KU’S atmosphere is just crazy - - - -He knows and really likes the KU Coach’s - -already got his visit sit up – even though Michigan was fairly quick with the hire – still kind of behind the 8 ball like Corey Evans is saying
We were in his final 6 BEFORE he committed the 1st time - I think we get him on Campus for his visit - can go a long way - -we might still be OK. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I would bet marquette is an option for Grimes.
Also, I mentioned this before I feel re Grimes transferring
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@jayballer73 I was going to say the same thing but you beat me to it. I want to say KU was his 2nd choice behind Michigan
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@BShark will he get to play right away?
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BShark said:
I would bet marquette is an option for Grimes.
Also, I mentioned this before I feel re Grimes transferring
I think G League. Another 2 years in college are very not appealing to his crew.
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@Kcmatt7 Rose lobbied publicly for Howard to get the job.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark will he get to play right away?
No which is why what @FarmerJayhawk mentions is a good point.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Ryan over at the Phog dropped these nuggets regarding Grimes.
Small fwiw, but if Grimes goes back to college it won’t be at Kansas. Have heard it’s possible he opts out and transfers, and now there are a few in the national NBA/Draft media that have mentioned it as well. I think there’s virtually no chance at him back at KU unless Dotson isn’t coming back AND Hampton isn’t joining the roster. Even then, I’m not entirely sure those bridges aren’t burned.
This is how we got Malik Newman and that worked out okay for KU. Hopefully it works out for Grimes as well wherever he ends up.
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Ryan posted this as well
"I think Dotson is coming back, but that is mostly pre-combine info. I don’t have any reason to believe that’s changed.
On Grimes - I don’t think his people want him back at KU regardless. The Vick situation was much different."
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Texas Hawk 10 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Ryan over at the Phog dropped these nuggets regarding Grimes.
Small fwiw, but if Grimes goes back to college it won’t be at Kansas. Have heard it’s possible he opts out and transfers, and now there are a few in the national NBA/Draft media that have mentioned it as well. I think there’s virtually no chance at him back at KU unless Dotson isn’t coming back AND Hampton isn’t joining the roster. Even then, I’m not entirely sure those bridges aren’t burned.
This is how we got Malik Newman and that worked out okay for KU. Hopefully it works out for Grimes as well wherever he ends up.
That is so true. Unfortunately the shoe is on the other end this time.
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Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Ryan over at the Phog dropped these nuggets regarding Grimes.
Small fwiw, but if Grimes goes back to college it won’t be at Kansas. Have heard it’s possible he opts out and transfers, and now there are a few in the national NBA/Draft media that have mentioned it as well. I think there’s virtually no chance at him back at KU unless Dotson isn’t coming back AND Hampton isn’t joining the roster. Even then, I’m not entirely sure those bridges aren’t burned.
I feel bad for Grimes. I really do. It seems as though his inner circle is filled with delusional people who have and will continue to fail him. He should have never even declared.
This is one of my favorite movies, and this quote all too often comes to mind…
But what if this is all on Grimes himself?
I suppose it’s possible. But either way, whoever raised him let him get too big headed before he ever got to KU then. There was clearly no backup plan in case he struggled.
Do you think most players in his position have the same attitude? Isn’t it kind of rare to find those OAD types that have no ego and are humble? It seems rare to find them but I could be wrong. So I don’t know that Q is acting any differently then most kids in his position would. I know none of us on here are experts when it comes to the draft and what these kids should do with their lives but I can’t imagine many KU fans agreed he was ready to jump to the pro’s. Somehow someway he and his camp thought so and now reality has started to set in…
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Grimes opting out, transferring – perhaps a good decision for all if that’s where his head is.
I’m sure all of this is all Bill Self’s fault (in the mind of his “people”).
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Texas Hawk 10 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Ryan over at the Phog dropped these nuggets regarding Grimes.
Small fwiw, but if Grimes goes back to college it won’t be at Kansas. Have heard it’s possible he opts out and transfers, and now there are a few in the national NBA/Draft media that have mentioned it as well. I think there’s virtually no chance at him back at KU unless Dotson isn’t coming back AND Hampton isn’t joining the roster. Even then, I’m not entirely sure those bridges aren’t burned.
This is how we got Malik Newman and that worked out okay for KU. Hopefully it works out for Grimes as well wherever he ends up.
I agree. Wish the guy the best, I really do.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Ryan over at the Phog dropped these nuggets regarding Grimes.
Small fwiw, but if Grimes goes back to college it won’t be at Kansas. Have heard it’s possible he opts out and transfers, and now there are a few in the national NBA/Draft media that have mentioned it as well. I think there’s virtually no chance at him back at KU unless Dotson isn’t coming back AND Hampton isn’t joining the roster. Even then, I’m not entirely sure those bridges aren’t burned.
I feel bad for Grimes. I really do. It seems as though his inner circle is filled with delusional people who have and will continue to fail him. He should have never even declared.
This is one of my favorite movies, and this quote all too often comes to mind…
But what if this is all on Grimes himself?
I suppose it’s possible. But either way, whoever raised him let him get too big headed before he ever got to KU then. There was clearly no backup plan in case he struggled.
Do you think most players in his position have the same attitude? Isn’t it kind of rare to find those OAD types that have no ego and are humble? It seems rare to find them but I could be wrong. So I don’t know that Q is acting any differently then most kids in his position would. I know none of us on here are experts when it comes to the draft and what these kids should do with their lives but I can’t imagine many KU fans agreed he was ready to jump to the pro’s. Somehow someway he and his camp thought so and now reality has started to set in…
I’m really looking forward to the OAD Rule being gone. But, of course, there are only so many teams in the NBA and eventually - yeah, I’m calling it - the player’s union is going to balk at all of the young players coming in and taking away from their fat second, third and fourth contracts (forcing veterans out). Let us not forget that OADs or even kids going to the league straight out of high school is - Malone, Garnett, Kobe and LeBron aside - a relatively new thing. The league will very soon mandate that they have to be 20 or even 21 years old to enter the draft - mark it! Their product has suffered for awhile now, which is why they instituted the rule to begin with.
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De Sousa can play this coming season! Bigtime news!
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@Marco doubter
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Marco said:
De Sousa can play this coming season! Bigtime news!
Awesome news - - think this puts and end to Jalen though - -but that’s ok - -SILVIO is BACK
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You guys get a chance - check out on Jalen’s Twitter - - see the post Prison Mitch sent on the 18th of MAY - -really cool video that Jalen retweeted.
Prison Mitch said: - - -Here at Kansas we don’t just watch History , we make it . - - -Join the family and create your own legacy - - Mitch - - that’s our boy – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Jalen has nothing to do with Silvio. He wants to be a 2/3, so if anything this helps the cause!
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Jalen has nothing to do with Silvio. He wants to be a 2/3, so if anything this helps the cause!
I’ve been saying this too. Definitely a wing.
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jayballer73 said:
Marco said:
De Sousa can play this coming season! Bigtime news!
Awesome news - - think this puts and end to Jalen though - -but that’s ok - -SILVIO is BACK
He is projected to be a wing.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Jalen has nothing to do with Silvio. He wants to be a 2/3, so if anything this helps the cause!
that’s good news - - -so then it’s going to boil down to us and Michigan - -him re-committing - -I really don’t consider NC in the picture
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SPRING BILL
Bring the hammer down. Slam it down to the ground.
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If signing RJ and Wilson — or anyone —means that Agbaji won’t start, no thanks. We need to cultivate this potential star.
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I think Ochai is closer to Releford than a star guy. Which is fine, you need Relefords.
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Adding RJ and Wilson to the class brings it back into the top 10 nationally. Would be pretty crazy after all that went down this last year.
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BShark said:
Adding RJ and Wilson to the class brings it back into the top 10 nationally. Would be pretty crazy after all that went down this last year.
BUT SELF CANT RECRUIT ANYMORE AND WE HAVE TO FIRE ALL THE ASSISTANTS LIKE YESTERDAY
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@jayballer73 I’m not sure about that. Isn’t Wilson a 3?
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Jalen has nothing to do with Silvio. He wants to be a 2/3, so if anything this helps the cause!
That’s what I thought. And you were right about De Sousa, Farmer. I was wrong, and glad that I was.
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BShark said:
Adding RJ and Wilson to the class brings it back into the top 10 nationally. Would be pretty crazy after all that went down this last year.
You can say that again.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Adding RJ and Wilson to the class brings it back into the top 10 nationally. Would be pretty crazy after all that went down this last year.
BUT SELF CANT RECRUIT ANYMORE AND WE HAVE TO FIRE ALL THE ASSISTANTS LIKE YESTERDAY
LMAO - - - now you stop that sir lmao - if I didn’t know better I would think there might be a teaspoon of sarcasm in that statement lol - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Marco said:
@jayballer73 I’m not sure about that. Isn’t Wilson a 3?
yes sir he is - - just yet another example of my old feeble mind at work lol - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BShark which players are being pursued by which assistants?
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approxinfinity said:
@BShark which players are being pursued by which assistants?
Snacks is the lead on Hampton and Wilson.
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BShark said:
approxinfinity said:
@BShark which players are being pursued by which assistants?
Snacks is the lead on Hampton and Wilson.
he seems to be the lead on everyone we ever have a chance of getting. Norm did his best with Achiuwa…
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Question that I’ve been wondering about … why is it that we assume that Wilson’s going to come in here and start, or be an immediate contributor? And that Enaruna might redshirt? Enaruna is actually ranked a touch higher than Wilson with Rivals, and Enaruna is just about 10 spots below Wilson at 24/7. Both are listed as wings. The only difference I can discern is Wilson’s shooting ability (though there are positive comments about Enaruna too). But from a quickness standpoint, guarding the 3, I’m not sure about that with either of them.
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@HighEliteMajor Wilson is much more ready to contribute immediately. Enaruna has a lot higher ceiling though, hence his higher ranking.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
@HighEliteMajor Wilson is much more ready to contribute immediately. Enaruna has a lot higher ceiling though, hence his higher ranking.
true - however Evan Daniels also said that he though Wilson was actually under rated and should be like 10-15 spots higher then they have him
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find it kind of funny/humorous Was scouring other fan bases/boards - - looked at K-State - - -looked at Michigan - - - Looked at N Carolina - - - -Looked at Duke - -and then I checked out Kentucky. - - Out of these , - Kentucky was the one that you can smell the fear, - -worries of what this does for KU’S season.
their whining was music to my ears, goes to show their inferiority complex showing it’s ugly head , the rest of the fan boards was for the most part talking like they felt Silvio decision was the right decision - -Hell Duke fans making comments such as -The Champions Classic just became tougher - - -KU gonna be loaded - - KU Being a legit final 4 contender - -NOT KENTUCKY lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I’m going off of what my eyes tell me and not ranking.
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jayballer73 said:
find it kind of funny/humorous Was scouring other fan bases/boards - - looked at K-State - - -looked at Michigan - - - Looked at N Carolina - - - -Looked at Duke - -and then I checked out Kentucky. - - Out of these , - Kentucky was the one that you can smell the fear, - -worries of what this does for KU’S season.
their whining was music to my ears, goes to show their inferiority complex showing it’s ugly head , the rest of the fan boards was for the most part talking like they felt Silvio decision was the right decision - -Hell Duke fans making comments such as -The Champions Classic just became tougher - - -KU gonna be loaded - - KU Being a legit final 4 contender - -NOT KENTUCKY lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I’ll take it a step further @jayballer73 and I never said this about our last team (wasn’t as high on it as most). If all of the pieces fall into place - as well as an outside shot to give balance - and everyone stays healthy, I think we could win it all. Which I guess is what you are saying, right?
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Marco said:
jayballer73 said:
find it kind of funny/humorous Was scouring other fan bases/boards - - looked at K-State - - -looked at Michigan - - - Looked at N Carolina - - - -Looked at Duke - -and then I checked out Kentucky. - - Out of these , - Kentucky was the one that you can smell the fear, - -worries of what this does for KU’S season.
their whining was music to my ears, goes to show their inferiority complex showing it’s ugly head , the rest of the fan boards was for the most part talking like they felt Silvio decision was the right decision - -Hell Duke fans making comments such as -The Champions Classic just became tougher - - -KU gonna be loaded - - KU Being a legit final 4 contender - -NOT KENTUCKY lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I’ll take it a step further @jayballer73 and I never said this about our last team (wasn’t as high on it as most). If all of the pieces fall into place - as well as an outside shot to give balance - and everyone stays healthy, I think we could win it all. Which I guess is what you are saying, right?
But we have to add two more very important pieces… “Come on sevens…!” Roll!
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@Marco - I said the before last season. If we had SDS to start last season, I thought we had a decent chance to go undefeated. That assumed everyone healthy, contributing, etc. I think what we saw of our team early, with Vick being a huge factor, that was possible. Of course, undefeated is a high bar, but maybe a two or three loss season was entirely reasonable.
@FarmerJayhawk @jayballer73 @BShark That is all helpful. I do like Wilson’s ability to shoot the ball as being in the mix for time at the three.
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HighEliteMajor said:
@Marco - I said the before last season. If we had SDS to start last season, I thought we had a decent chance to go undefeated. That assumed everyone healthy, contributing, etc. I think what we saw of our team early, with Vick being a huge factor, that was possible. Of course, undefeated is a high bar, but maybe a two or three loss season was entirely reasonable.
@FarmerJayhawk @jayballer73 @BShark That is all helpful. I do like Wilson’s ability to shoot the ball as being in the mix for time at the three.
I like Braun, McBride and Agbaji being able to contribute from three, as well.
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I am not sure how Braun and McBride find minutes. Maybe one but not both. And neither if Dotson, RJ and Wilson are all on the team.
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BShark said:
I am not sure how Braun and McBride find minutes. Maybe one but not both. And neither if Dotson, RJ and Wilson are all on the team.
Maybe in spot situations.
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If we can get three guards who shoot comfortably in the 40s from 3 can 2 bigs work?
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@approxinfinity I’d say yes, but who are these three guards you speak of?
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@FarmerJayhawk Can Jalen defend at the 3? I’m afraid he’s a 4 hiding out at the 3.
