New 2019 Recruiting
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@dylans See Jeff run. See Jeff run fast
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Man… If we land Hampton and Enaruna I hope that we might also have a shot at getting Zeus Jackson and Poseidon Williams.
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Marco said:
Jesus, even the high schools - and I am truly hoping that Hampton reclassifies and that we land him - are in on it. How many of you out there reading this had enough credits to graduate high school after your junior year? Anyone, anyone? Now (whether you did or didn’t aside), what are the odds that these jocks have legitimately stockpiled so many credits? Thank you…
Closest I came was having enough at Semester my Senior year. Wasn’t ready to hit the job market yet so I took like 5 out of my 7 hours was physical Education of some sort - none of my buddies was able to grad early so I didn’t want to just sit at the house the afternoon while they were in /school lol
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@JAYHAWKFAN214 agree on the smart kid! His parents are bringing him up the right way!
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I guess what I am getting at is that these kids seem to decide spur of the moment that they want to graduate early and, wallah!, they already have enough credits to do so. See Jeff run. See Jeff run fast. It seems that I remember it all starting - can’t remember it happening before then - with Duke, even before Bagley, but I can’t remember the player right off the top of my head.
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@Marco I’m not sure. I thought maybe he had jumped around (up and back) classes. He’s already 18. But all I can find on his prep career is his 3 years at Little Elm https://www.usab.com/basketball/players/mens/h/hampton-rj.aspx
However, it’s been stated he’s out of Texas HS eligibility, so maybe he played a year elsewhere?
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I would have thought if he had plans to visit now that re-classified he would have already done so. Seems clear his intent is to go to Kentucky. They only have 8 scholarship players so I guess he sees that as a good situation for himself. He’ll be stuck behind Maxey, Quickley, Whitney & Brooks though.
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Can Hampton and Dotson co-exist on the court? Someone needs to be able to shoot on the perimeter…
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BeddieKU23 said:
Can Hampton and Dotson co-exist on the court? Someone needs to be able to shoot on the perimeter…
They’d fit better than Dotson and Garrett…
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If I’m Bill I’m reaching out to Zeke and Josh Green today and making sure they know he’s there for them if and when Miller gets fired
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Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Can Hampton and Dotson co-exist on the court? Someone needs to be able to shoot on the perimeter…
They’d fit better than Dotson and Garrett…
And you think he’d play over him? I’d love to believe that would happen but would Self. He love Marcus
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BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Can Hampton and Dotson co-exist on the court? Someone needs to be able to shoot on the perimeter…
They’d fit better than Dotson and Garrett…
And you think he’d play over him? I’d love to believe that would happen but would Self. He love Marcus
He can love Marcus and Still start Hampton over Marcus. I’m not so sure REALLY if Marcus is the type of kid that gets all caught up in starting . I think he is happy to do just whatever he can to help our team. Marcus could still see a lot of Quality minutes especially when he could Back up Dotson & Hampton and even the Small forward for a few minutes if needed.
I mean I know in the end run it’s all on Coach - - just saying if it was up to Marcus I don’t think it would really matter , just don’t see him as a type of kid that is - -well what’s the words I’m looking for , anyways I’m pretty sure they could work it out with a lot of problems. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Holyfield & Tucker would make bigger impacts then Green/Nnaji. Change my mind
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BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Can Hampton and Dotson co-exist on the court? Someone needs to be able to shoot on the perimeter…
They’d fit better than Dotson and Garrett…
And you think he’d play over him? I’d love to believe that would happen but would Self. He love Marcus
100%. I’ll have to find who it is, but someone on Twitter that seems somewhat knowledgeable said Self has personally been more involved with RJ than basically any recruit in recent memory. He wants him bad.
Garrett only started 13 of 30 games last season… I don’t know that Self is THAT in live with his game.
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For those of you that follow KU recruiting closely does it seem like this past year there has been almost no coverage of it? There just isn’t a good site that provides any information on updates on any of the recruits that we are after. I just never read anything about who we are visiting how visits went and such. Holyfield visited Monday and I literally haven’t seen one word about it.
The only information I really ever see is from Corey Evans or Eric Bossi and it is usually in their little weekly write ups. Just is a lot different than it used to be.
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@Woodrow new owners of the LJW and the good writers went to the KCStar who hates KU.
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Yeah there’s a lack of coverage as well as a lack of connection into the program by those that are paid to do it. If there was a huge market for KU basketball/football recruiting I think you would see it change. Football has to become prominent again though.
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Good points. I hope his investment into RJ pays off. Just going to sit back and see how it goes. These types of recruitments don’t usually pay off for Self. Hopefully that changes with this one
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@BeddieKU23 it will, I just know!
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Woodrow said:
For those of you that follow KU recruiting closely does it seem like this past year there has been almost no coverage of it? There just isn’t a good site that provides any information on updates on any of the recruits that we are after. I just never read anything about who we are visiting how visits went and such. Holyfield visited Monday and I literally haven’t seen one word about it.
The only information I really ever see is from Corey Evans or Eric Bossi and it is usually in their little weekly write ups. Just is a lot different than it used to be.
Matt Scott was the only guy with any real connections but obviously he wasn’t without fault. The guys at 24/7 now are just beat reporters.
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BShark said:
Woodrow said:
For those of you that follow KU recruiting closely does it seem like this past year there has been almost no coverage of it? There just isn’t a good site that provides any information on updates on any of the recruits that we are after. I just never read anything about who we are visiting how visits went and such. Holyfield visited Monday and I literally haven’t seen one word about it.
The only information I really ever see is from Corey Evans or Eric Bossi and it is usually in their little weekly write ups. Just is a lot different than it used to be.
Matt Scott was the only guy with any real connections but obviously he wasn’t without fault. The guys at 24/7 now are just beat reporters.
And even Matt had his faults… I don’t doubt he did his best, but he was often a tease and his CB picks weren’t reliable. He rarely staked his name to a definitive statement.
The problem may very well be that we as a KU collective have not jumped to a single site to generate enough traffic and revenue for a sports site to justify hiring a beat reporter. RR is THE place to talk about UK basketball. DD is pretty good as well from what I see.
We have people on LJW, the Phog, SB Nation, here and I’m sure a few other places. If we combined everyone, it would be as toxic as RR. But we might get a legit reporter… So there is a give and a take to it all.
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That is a good point about merging into one. 247 and Scout did it recently but even that pool of fans was one-sided in size with the Phog having way more. I don’t think many on here would stick around if this place one day merged with the Phog. Nightmare over there and takes away from some of the people that post on there that actually are good.
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Jake Weingarten on Twitter is saying Kyree Walker might reclassify to 2019, with KU and Arkansas being the leaders. Additional comment is that KU now has a chance to land two 5* guards this year. Interesting…
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Gorilla72 said:
Jake Weingarten on Twitter is saying Kyree Walker might reclassify to 2019, with KU and Arkansas being the leaders. Additional comment is that KU now has a chance to land two 5* guards this year. Interesting…
The other is RJ Hampton.
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Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
Woodrow said:
For those of you that follow KU recruiting closely does it seem like this past year there has been almost no coverage of it? There just isn’t a good site that provides any information on updates on any of the recruits that we are after. I just never read anything about who we are visiting how visits went and such. Holyfield visited Monday and I literally haven’t seen one word about it.
The only information I really ever see is from Corey Evans or Eric Bossi and it is usually in their little weekly write ups. Just is a lot different than it used to be.
Matt Scott was the only guy with any real connections but obviously he wasn’t without fault. The guys at 24/7 now are just beat reporters.
And even Matt had his faults… I don’t doubt he did his best, but he was often a tease and his CB picks weren’t reliable. He rarely staked his name to a definitive statement.
The problem may very well be that we as a KU collective have not jumped to a single site to generate enough traffic and revenue for a sports site to justify hiring a beat reporter. RR is THE place to talk about UK basketball. DD is pretty good as well from what I see.
We have people on LJW, the Phog, SB Nation, here and I’m sure a few other places. If we combined everyone, it would be as toxic as RR. But we might get a legit reporter… So there is a give and a take to it all.
For a stark contrast look at the Maryland 24/7 forum, it’s huge.
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BeddieKU23 said:
That is a good point about merging into one. 247 and Scout did it recently but even that pool of fans was one-sided in size with the Phog having way more. I don’t think many on here would stick around if this place one day merged with the Phog. Nightmare over there and takes away from some of the people that post on there that actually are good.
Basically 90% of this board would not last on the Phog. I agree.
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Gorilla72 said:
Jake Weingarten on Twitter is saying Kyree Walker might reclassify to 2019, with KU and Arkansas being the leaders. Additional comment is that KU now has a chance to land two 5* guards this year. Interesting…
Interesting…
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BShark said:
Gorilla72 said:
Jake Weingarten on Twitter is saying Kyree Walker might reclassify to 2019, with KU and Arkansas being the leaders. Additional comment is that KU now has a chance to land two 5* guards this year. Interesting…
The other is RJ Hampton.
I’d be ok with this. He looks like a multi-year guy to me though. I don’t know what he thinks he is, but he’s a little rough around the edges.
Great size. College ready physique. Decent athlete. Plays with a physicality. Handles are roughhhh. Pretty good finisher. Not shooting .400 from 3, but better shooter than JJ. Goes after rebounds.
Looks to me like a modern day 4 man not really a wing.
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Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
That is a good point about merging into one. 247 and Scout did it recently but even that pool of fans was one-sided in size with the Phog having way more. I don’t think many on here would stick around if this place one day merged with the Phog. Nightmare over there and takes away from some of the people that post on there that actually are good.
Basically 90% of this board would not last on the Phog. I agree.
Phog was around before this place. I chose here for a reason. Thanks @approxinfinity !
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Walker is a lot like Tucker honestly. Big, physical wings with very good athleticism who can really stroke it. Last year Walker shot 47% from 3 and 77% from the line in HS ball. Dude can play, and is a great fit at the 3 for us. But yeah, he and Tucker can’t play together since that would leave only Dotson on the ball.
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@FarmerJayhawk Exactly what this program needs a lot of. Athletic guys who can shoot.
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Going to be tough to beat out Arkansas but I’d take Walker in a second.
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BShark said:
Going to be tough to beat out Arkansas but I’d take Walker in a second.
Same. No guarantee he’s a one and done either.
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I don’t think reclassing is done for 2019 yet by a long shot. You’d be dumb to be in that 2021 draft if you can be in the 2020 draft instead. I wonder how many more guys are able to do it. Just going down the ESPN 60 list:
- Mobley
- Hampton
- Johnson
- Brown
- Barnes
- Boston
- Todd
- Cunningham
- Christopher
- Suggs
- Walker
- Roach
- Brakefield
- Dante
- Juzang
- Williams
- Cooper
Yea I’m done. Like 90% of the top guys are old enough. I expect several more names to start popping up.
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dylans said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
That is a good point about merging into one. 247 and Scout did it recently but even that pool of fans was one-sided in size with the Phog having way more. I don’t think many on here would stick around if this place one day merged with the Phog. Nightmare over there and takes away from some of the people that post on there that actually are good.
Basically 90% of this board would not last on the Phog. I agree.
Phog was around before this place. I chose here for a reason. Thanks @approxinfinity !
Tell the good ones to come on over!
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Yes! Thanks, @approxinfinity! I’m not sure there are any good ones left over there, though…
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@BeddieKU23 Mr. Hampton (yes, he is already pro - being paid) will be going to KU.
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@BeddieKU23 Dotson will not be coming back. The starting line-up for next season will be Dok, De Sousa, Agbaji, Hampton and Tucker - McCormick, Holyfield, Enaruna, McBride and Braun coming off the bench.
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@Marco source? Gut?
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Clairvoyance and scrying.
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We suck if Dotson isn’t back.
If you are right on all that I’ll buy you a beer Marco. :p
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BShark said:
We suck if Dotson isn’t back.
If you are right on all that I’ll buy you a beer Marco. :p
HE WILL
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I’ll try and say this Again - maybe more simply - - DEVON DOTSON - - - is NOT GOING ANYHWERE this year. - he is using this for an informational tool. - Finding out where his weakness is according to the NBA.
He had a Solid year - not a GREAT year but a solid year. - He knows he needs to improve yet in area’s - -More consistency with his shooting. - -His 3 pt shot needs to improve - if you look back most of his 3’s were wide open 3’s - -that won’t happen in the NBA - most of the time last year he was so wide open on 3’s he had time to set his feet plant and shoot.
Question is can he create his own shot? - can he get his jumper of the dribble? - Ya he can drive - but can he consistency get his shot when he wants. - -He could tighten up some yet with his Handle - -at times a little loose with the ball - These are things that he will get feed back on.
He comes back next year works has another Solid year he can work himself into a middle or lower 1st round possibly. - -He tries this year would be a middle 2nd round - -DEVON will be back - well if he has any sense he will. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@approxinfinity No source, just a gut.
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@BShark Okay, I’ll take you up on that.
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@jayballer73 I respect your opinion, but I don’t think that Dotson can much improve his stock, I really don’t. Hell, look at what Frank did his senior year and he was still a second rounder, ditto for Devonte.
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@marco I agree that he probably can’t improve his stock much, but he is a pretty efficient shooter and I think he understands that he is only effective when it’s in rhythm and wide open. I don’t see him changing that approach to try to wow anyone with his shooting ability.
I think what we will get is a stronger, smarter leader for the team when he returns after the draft (and I totally think he is coming back). I would be willing to say that Dotson isn’t really ever going to be a starting NBA PG with his lack of size. Frank was insane and had athleticism like I’ve never seen and what did that get him? I think it’s likely we have at least one, maybe two more years. He is a perfect college 1. If he goes to the draft, I couldn’t help but expect to see him go LATE or be left on the board after the second round.
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Marco said:
@jayballer73 I respect your opinion, but I don’t think that Dotson can much improve his stock, I really don’t. Hell, look at what Frank did his senior year and he was still a second rounder, ditto for Devonte.
I would fall back a little on the Frank/Dotson comparisons. Dotson is 6’2, not 5’11 and Height does matter. I’d be interested in seeing what Dotson’s Wingspan is compared to Frank’s as well. Frank made up for his height by being a world class athlete at 5’11.
Dotson was already a better defender coming to KU then when Frank left KU. Dotson will hold his own defensively from what I’ve seen of him.
Where they are similar is they both came to College as more of a scoring guard then PG. Dotson’s role at KU changed over the course of the season and by seasons end Self was relying on his offense more then anything. Frank was always juggling being a team manager and a scorer. Dotson has to improve his PG skills if he’s going to stick at the next level. He should absolutely watch film on Cassius Winston and how he runs Michigan St. Winston doesn’t have blurring speed like Dotson does but his feel for the game and his ability to get to certain spots on the court are almost impossible to stop. I think Dotson can improve on everything coming back. Shooting from the perimeter, mid-range, we saw very little in his arsenal outside of straight line drives to the hoop. Does he have a floater? He’s far ahead of where Frank was after his freshman year. Another year could definitely get him into the 1st round potentially.
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@BeddieKU23 I’d compare Dotson to Damian Lillard and would say he will always be more of a scoring lead guard in that respect. Lillard raised his freshman scoring ppg of 11 to 20 his sophomore year. I think Dotson could raise his similarly from 12 to 20 if he comes back.
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BigBad said:
@BeddieKU23 I’d compare Dotson to Damian Lillard and would say he will always be more of a scoring lead guard in that respect. Lillard raised his freshman scoring ppg of 11 to 20 his sophomore year. I think Dotson could raise his similarly from 12 to 20 if he comes back.
Good points. I do agree that I see Dotson always being a scoring guard. There’s nothing wrong with it either, Winston for example however found a balance between the two his Jr year which is why I believe if Devon watched his film he could definitely learn a few things. I also don’t think its out of the question he raises his scoring from 12 to 20. He’s capable and with all that left this season he’s the most likely person to step up and take on more. I hope he lives in the gym working on his shooting and confidence in his game this summer. Same for Ochai.
