2020 Recruiting
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FarmerJayhawk said:
It’s grade and course completing dependent so nobody really knows for sure.
If he reclasses, redshirt? Or legit competition for McBride as the backup PG?
In my mind, he’s much more of a pure PG than McBride who I feel is more like a short Combo guard.
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@Kcmatt7 I think redshirt. He’s not a guy that’s going to leave early so having an experienced PG on the roster when OAD goes away will be a big advantage.
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dylans said:
Reclassifying to redshirt is kinda funny. Hurry up and wait.
Better to have him in Lawrence than Wichita.
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BShark said:
Great news.
Sounds like jayballer is torn on this kid. He’s gonna wait and watch his offers blow up but also not worthy of the 13th scholarship. Really makes you think.
Oh how we question lol. - - not really torn actually - -just me - -I would as soon leave it open - he just doesn’t wow me looks very ordinary - had some critical to’s late in the game - - forced passes - -yes I watched the entire game - -got beat on the drive while playing defense more then once resulting in a foul. - -just wasn’t really overwhelmed by his play - -never really heard the commentators talking about him much - -he did play a lot - -so I’m not gonna jump off a cliff cause we take him
As far as him waiting for his Scholi’s to blow up - -that’s coming from what others have said possible - - I just happen to agree I think IF he is all that like some are trying to make him out - -then ya like they say he will more likely then he will stay in 2020 -and get numerous offers.
You can throw all the shade ya want - - I know it sounds like a forked tongue - -I won’t be mad if he comes - -I won’t lose sleep if he doesn’t pretty much when it’s all said and done. - -The main thing I don’t want to see is us getting to a point where just offer to have that body. - -He redshirts? - -then possibly he can help - -as far as him challenging Mcbride this year - for back up point - - - -I don’t think Issac would have much to worry about. - - McBride is quicker - - Better shooter and good defensively - - There ya have it - -if he comes – WELCOME ABOARD - -make me a believer - - I mean he from Missouri right? - - Soooo SHOW ME - - lmao - -just having some fun guys don’t get your skivvies twisted. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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As a little side not to this guys - - - - just saw where Jerry Meyer and Cris Fisher both picked Harris to KU - -to go along with Evan - - CB said been 4 predictions - - haven’t seen the other - -but the CB has KU at 100 % - -so had to be a KU pick also - - there you go – -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Okay, it is now time for Coach Marco to interpret and read between the lines, and it is as I predicted (I am also a crystal ball reader when it comes to moves that we will make after making moves… Lol). We already have McBride, and if we sign Harris - regardless of whether he is in 2019 or 2020 - we will not sign Nix or any other five star PG and I am fine with that - feed the horses! Now, if we are no longer targeting point guards who then besides Thompson and Todd should we be?
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KU leads for Caleb Love.
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@FarmerJayhawk Yeah, I saw that too. Prediction, we won’t sign him. We’ll already have two point guards who are both four stars and more than serviceable. No, scratch that, we’ll have three point guards if also including Garrett.
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@Marco the staff wants at least 2 guards in 2020. If Harris doesn’t reclassify he’d be the third. They don’t want to rely on McBride as a 30 MPG guy as a sophomore. Harris won’t be ready to be the guy either. Love and Thompson are such good fits because they’re interchangeable on both ends. Both have the length to slide to the 3 in a small lineup. Chasing all these 6’0 ish guards doesn’t give us near the flexibility we want.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
KU leads for Caleb Love.
Big time
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Love retweeted something about KU coaches being 4 deep for his game. Bodes well you would think.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Love retweeted something about KU coaches being 4 deep for his game. Bodes well you would think.
Very much so. Get Love, Thompson, and Harris then call it good.
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Bold Harris prediction - Reclassify redshirt transfer. Prove me wrong Missouri boi. Please be a diamond in the rough.
Color me jaded, but the 3-4 year guys I’d like are ranked 30-80.
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@dylans Bold prediction, aside from what the KU staff might want @FarmerJayhawk - and I agree, Love is bigtime - we will have only McBride, Harris and Garrett as our depth point guards. So, let’s move on to the frontcourt, who?
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@dylans Mostly posting this as a reminder to myself for later since I’m about to go to sleep.
Interesting range of 30-80. I’m curious now how many kids in that range do stay 3-4 years. I’ll do breakdowns tomorrow over the last few classes that apply (so starting with 2017) and tackling each group of 10 (30-39, 40-49 etc) and seeing the percentages. My gut instinct would be not a lot in the 30-50 range are there 4 years.
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Marco said:
@dylans Bold prediction, aside from what the KU staff might want @FarmerJayhawk - and I agree, Love is bigtime - we will have only McBride, Harris and Garrett as our depth point guards. So, let’s move on to the frontcourt, who?
I’m watching Mady Sissoko, Dawson Garcia, Josh Hall, and Isaiah Todd.
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Seen a few 247 articles in the past week mention the rise of Bryce Thompson and his recruitment and don’t even mention KU… Wondering what’s up with that when he’s clearly a TOP target and has interest. No mention of his recent visit.
Anyways Bryce is now a 5 star prospect, ranked #20. Huge jump for this guy. Hope we can pull him and Love together
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@BeddieKU23 Man, if we could pull Thompson and Love I would be ecstatic (hope my gut feeling is wrong. It wouldn’t be the first).
@FarmerJayhawk gave a list of frontcourt players. It would great to add Todd and Garcia too.
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I wish you all would put videos up of these kids you talk about. Or use full names. Consider it your good deed for the elderly…lol.
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@BShark Mason 76, Graham 36. Seems to be the sweet spot.
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KUSTEVE said:
I wish you all would put videos up of these kids you talk about. Or use full names. Consider it your good deed for the elderly…lol.
We probably need a new thread with a list of “persons if interest” with their 247 linked next to them
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30-39
2017
Still in school: Silvio, John Petty (barely), Paul Scruggs, Chaundee Brown, Ethan Thompson
Gone: Jalek Felton, SGA, Lindell Wigginton, Brandon Randolph, Daniel Gafford
2016
SR: Cassius Winston, Alterique Gilbert, Udoka
Left after JR year: Tyus Battle, Kyle Guy
Left before that: Zach Collins, Lauri Markannen
LOL: Cunliffe, Javin DeLaurier
The 2017 guys could still leave before their senior year of course. I bet at a minimum Silvio does. It’s a crapshoot.
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Kcmatt7 said:
dylans said:
@BShark Mason 76, Graham 36. Seems to be the sweet spot.
Both had major KU bumps.
Also this. 24/7 shows national ranking history thankfully. When KU started recruiting Graham he was ranked #196.
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To add, the 2018 class saw two players in the 30-39 range go OAD
Tyler Herro & Luquentz Dort.
I would wager a few pennies we see Reggie Perry, Ayo, Javonte Smart & Kira Lewis join after this year. 60% likely gone after two years.
Joey Baker will be around, Brandon Williams knee’s will likely get in his way of leaving early, McCormack is a 4 year guy and I have no idea on Cherry’s career arc but all I saw him do at AZ St was chuck 3’s so who knows.
The 30-39 range is definitely not what people think it is
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Kcmatt7 said:
dylans said:
@BShark Mason 76, Graham 36. Seems to be the sweet spot.
Both had major KU bumps.
Yeah, but the major KU bumps this go around got the guys into the 90-150 range. Pretty unimpressive. Diamonds in the rough are tough to find and guys in this range rarely make an impact in their first 2-3 years.
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@approxinfinity I think this will need to be a bigger class than last year. Plus the timing of the FBI stuff and rumors swirling hurt a lot. 2018 was a big class when needed, 20 needs to be big and typically Bill does his best work in these spots.
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I answered him on discord but basically it’s guys I think KU is firmly leading for.
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Crap. Still can’t delete things. Enjoy!
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If there is no new post on that thread it will disappear unless you actively search it out. Personally I only go to unread topics. I don’t believe editing the OP will bring it back up.
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@bshark. Answering before the question. - FYI it still doesn’t show up in the unread topics. Your thread, your prerogative; just a heads up if you want traffic. If it’s just for yourself it’s perfect.
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@dylans Not meaning to toot my own horn but we could pin it if it is felt that it is important enough.
I will be editing the OP with new information as I hear about it.
Ty Berry will play his SR year at Sunrise: https://twitter.com/Ty_Berry23/status/1151191415281635336
A bit of 1 + 1 here with Dajuan Harris who was going to be at Sunrise this upcoming year.
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@BShark I bet his newton coach is not happy. Unless he was a pain? I doubt it. He does hate, really hate, KU!
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark I bet his newton coach is not happy. Unless he was a pain? I doubt it. He does hate, really hate, KU!
Um the coach?
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Newton coach.
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Good for Berry, not so good for KSHAA basketball.
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dylans said:
Kcmatt7 said:
dylans said:
@BShark Mason 76, Graham 36. Seems to be the sweet spot.
Both had major KU bumps.
Yeah, but the major KU bumps this go around got the guys into the 90-150 range. Pretty unimpressive. Diamonds in the rough are tough to find and guys in this range rarely make an impact in their first 2-3 years.
Just no winning for Bill lol. Can’t recruit OADs or program guys…
Have to be high impact freshman who are okay with sitting the bench. All 5 of them.
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Most kids transfer to sunrise Academy so they can get better in get more chances to get scholarships from coaches
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@Crimsonorblue22 I bet that his Newton coach was not happy at all. But great situation for Ty he gets to play with the #5 kid in the country in the 2020 class,. Also heard that Tom Izzo was a steady presence at Tys games this past weekend in Atlanta, along with Michigan University.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
New offer. He was terrific this weekend. https://247sports.com/Player/Kerwin-Walton-4605721
Sure seems to be a lot more offering to middle on the top 100 and then even guys like this - - and like McBride - - & Braun last year maybe a change of plan/attack in recruiting - -maybe looking at more 4 year quality guys for room to improve - - -
It could be with this new rule coming into effect before to longer , maybe Coach is changing approach/attack. Could be he is looking to start making more of an concerted effort on 4 year types of guys that has room to develop. - Good solid quality players - - yet 4 year players and possibly a little less on the Elite that we know with more then not probably will jump straight to the NBA. - So Coach getting a little head start - I dunno just a thought. - He starts recruiting these types of players now - -leaves less chance of getting left out from the elite and then having to scramble for other players to fill holes on the roster - - I really don’t have a problem with good solid quality 3-4 year players with a OAD sprinkled in if we can still land them - -might work out okay - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Yes sir
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@alwaysajayhawk We won’t sign Berry if Harris commits - as simple as that. (edit) I didn’t see @FarmerJayhawk 's post before sending this.
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@jayballer73 That’s kind of what I have said and am thinking, and - but we’ll always nab a couple of high profile recruits - I am all in!
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FarmerJayhawk said:
BOOM https://twitter.com/evandaniels/status/1151308190384054272?s=21
I’ll take that. I say quit concentrating on PGs in the 2020 class, focus elsewhere.
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No way. We still need an impact guard if not two.
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@BShark We will need a big guard and a 2/3 swingman, not a point guard.
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We still need 2 guards, possibly a wing, and 2 bigs.
