2020 Recruiting
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A few things…
Good point from FAN214 let’s wait and see how he does. The staff seems to be high on him. We don’t know if he will wash out, maybe he has a Lucas/Mitch level love for the program. From what I’ve heard this is pretty close to the case. But you never know how kids react to Bill until they are on the team and at practices. We heard all the right things about McBride and he quit on the team. The good news is it’s not like we are counting on this kid for anything right away. He has time to improve.
Plus right now of all times I find it hard to take shots at any kid that still wants to be a Jayhawk.
@Kcmatt7 Respectable AAU numbers maybe they were quite bad before last circuit, idk. Reaaaally hope we find out more after his commitment. There could be any number of reasons why he was under-recruited. For whatever anyone wants to say about Garrett he is a D1 level player and was almost invisible before KU got involved. There has to be a story with this kid.
Bill Self and undersized athletic point guards, name a more iconic duo.
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Quote from Bill on the current class
“I thought it was more important this year than most just because of the unknown that waits out there,” Self said. “And I don’t mean unknown as being bad, unknown can be positive. You just don’t know when this will be concluded. … To have three guys like this jump on board now I think is a pretty strong move on their part, but also, more importantly, it helps us out and changes in my opinion what has been a fairly negative narrative that has been put out about us.”
“There’s been a lot of years, a lot of years, where during the fall period we [don’t] even have what’s thought to be a highly, nationally-ranked class,” Self said. “And I’m not saying this ranks up there with [the Andrew Wiggins, Joel Embiid, Wayne Selden class], but I do think considering everything that’s happened, I think it’s a terrific class. All three were our main targets. I don’t think we could have recruited better than we did at the respective positions that we were recruiting.”
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JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Woodrow said:
@jayballer73 That is my thought. I would have saved this for a grad transfer. This day and age there a high level kids year in and year out that can make a huge difference. This kid will transfer out in a year or two.
Let’s see how he does 1st before talking him down
Nobody is talking him down, but what people are saying is the truth , there is a reason why he has not received P-5 offers - - not ONE - -there are a lot of kids that have skills – just NOT P-5 skills - - -sure he might look like he has got better skills on his high light reel - - it’s because it’s HIS HIGH LIGHT REEL - -sure not going to show liabilities on a highlight reel.
Might be amid Major but there are people that follow this kids - -watch them see their level of athlete - -these people do these things for a living , think you can pretty well take what they say about the individual as solid. - NO P-5 offers other then KU - -just makes you wonder - -KU really going out on a limb - -it’s ok - If Coach thinks he is legit enough to take the chance and offer? - - then who am I - -that’s why Coach is Coach and I’m the Couch potato - -still doesn’t mean a person can’t scratch their head and go - - - hmmmmm - - things that make you go hmmmm - -time will tell, just hope people realize not all kids are a Frank Mason - -or Devonte Graham - -even they had other offers – time will tell
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For what it’s worth…one of my best friends from college (who is a fellow KU grad) is the head coach at the D-2 school that is the other listed offer (Dallas Baptist). He loves Jossell’s game, but said he isn’t the kind of recruit that would get fans excited. That said, he couldn’t believe that Jossell didn’t have at least mid-major D-1 offers. Apparently there might be an AAU teammate of his that KU is after too.
My buddy thought he was in pretty good shape to get him and then KU spent a whole day with him in Dallas. He thought it was just a casual visit and then he saw the same tweet we all did announcing KU’s offer. We were texting today and he’s hoping Jossell will go the hat route and have the KU and DBU hats on the table and then to have the press release say ‘Jossell chose Kansas over Dallas Baptist’.
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focojayhawk said:
For what it’s worth…one of my best friends from college (who is a fellow KU grad) is the head coach at the D-2 school that is the other listed offer (Dallas Baptist). He loves Jossell’s game, but said he isn’t the kind of recruit that would get fans excited. That said, he couldn’t believe that Jossell didn’t have at least mid-major D-1 offers. Apparently there might be an AAU teammate of his that KU is after too.
My buddy thought he was in pretty good shape to get him and then KU spent a whole day with him in Dallas. He thought it was just a casual visit and then he saw the same tweet we all did announcing KU’s offer. We were texting today and he’s hoping Jossell will go the hat route and have the KU and DBU hats on the table and then to have the press release say ‘Jossell chose Kansas over Dallas Baptist’.
Thanks for the scoop. Also the last part was hilarious. I wonder where one can buy a Dallas Baptist hat. XD
We’ve already signed his AAU teammate Gethro Muscadin.
Scott Chasen talked to his HS coach as well as Gethro and had this to say: Expecting an announcement tonight, possibly a signing in the morning. Talented kid. He’s worked on a lot of aspects of his game, and he’s the type of kid that gets others invovled and doesn’t mind sacrificing his body. Takes charges, stays late at practice help teammates. Helped build a good HS culture. KU has been on him for a little while, but sounds like he was a late find into this year.
Glad to know your buddy agrees with @Kcmatt7 and myself. The lack of almost any offers is bizarre. I am hoping post commitment we get a story or two about that.
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Well , Meyer - - - Daniels - - - Chasen - – & another all showed their CB for our upcoming commit - - glad to get this over with - been a heated recruiting battle - -Jus hope he doesn’t jump ship and commit to DB at the last minute.
Just having a little fun don’t get all serious on this. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer73 said:
Well , Meyer - - - Daniels - - - Chasen - – & another all showed their CB for our upcoming commit - - glad to get this over with - been a heated recruiting battle - -Jus hope he doesn’t jump ship and commit to DB at the last minute.
Just having a little fun don’t get all serious on this. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
So your saying he might take other visits after committing. Oh god the horror, I’m so done with this guy. why cant we chase the 5 stars! Ugh.
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BeddieKU23 said:
jayballer73 said:
Well , Meyer - - - Daniels - - - Chasen - – & another all showed their CB for our upcoming commit - - glad to get this over with - been a heated recruiting battle - -Jus hope he doesn’t jump ship and commit to DB at the last minute.
Just having a little fun don’t get all serious on this. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
So your saying he might take other visits after committing. Oh god the horror, I’m so done with this guy. why cant we chase the 5 stars! Ugh.
yes , yes I’m afraid we might lose him at the last moment to DB -who needs 5 * when w can get game changers like this lol
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@BShark Seen the Jossell kid play AAU basketball this summer, definitely not a KU basketball type of player, the kid is 5"8 at best and had a very hard time getting his shot, I really don’t understand this one !
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https://twitter.com/onekrob2/status/1195157837590253569?s=21
Appears Kk Robinson is down too KU and Arkansas . I assume KU is window dressing.
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alwaysajayhawk said:
@BShark Seen the Jossell kid play AAU basketball this summer, definitely not a KU basketball type of player, the kid is 5"8 at best and had a very hard time getting his shot, I really don’t understand this one !
Welcome to the crowd - -you are right along with many others here and other sites
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Woodrow said:
https://twitter.com/onekrob2/status/1195157837590253569?s=21
Appears Kk Robinson is down too KU and Arkansas . I assume KU is window dressing.
pretty much
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alwaysajayhawk said:
@BShark Seen the Jossell kid play AAU basketball this summer, definitely not a KU basketball type of player, the kid is 5"8 at best and had a very hard time getting his shot, I really don’t understand this one !
He has improved and grown a bit. That said he isn’t cracking the rotation next year. Which is fine because even with Dotson going pro we have a lot of good guards and wings.
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FWIW, Kyree Walker wants to enter the 2020 draft. KU would only be interested if he wanted to come back for 20-21. Since that’s not the case, KU won’t be an option. KK obviously isn’t signing in the fall but I don’t expect KU to circle back unless something weird like Christian Braun transferring happens. (Not that Braun is going anywhere. Just an example of the type of weird it would take)
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Latrell jossell has committed to ku
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Got heeeeem
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One thing I have to agree with on from another poster , an that is - -With the roster and the way it shaped up for 2020 , - - Wilson - - Muscadin - - Jossell - - Braun - - & Harris
Hopefully it can help and you would think it might - -but should be able to hopefully help with some in roads on 2021 recruits do to the AAU connections , would help us possibly with Harrison Ingram - - -Kennedy Chandler - -& Kendall Brown - -that would be sweet if it can. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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So, my read is we are taking Jossell as we are anticipating that the roster spot will be there and he staff sees potential for development. As we have seen in the past, if the player’s development does not merit the playing time that he wants…he transfers.
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jayballer73 said:
I read this from a poster off the phog. - -He had this for NEXT year’s line up. - -Said he would like to see - Can’t say I really disagree - - think it looks pretty goo to me. - -It went like this :
Pg : - - -Garrett/ Harris Sg :- - - Thompson / Braun Sf :- - - Agbaji ? Grant Foster Pf :- - - Enaruna ? Wilson C :- - - McCormack / Lightfoot
I could live with that. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I could too, no doubt.
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BeddieKU23 said:
COHawk said:
Hasn’t Enaruna shown up on some draft boards?
2nd round next year but that’s going to change if he continues to have a big role and produce.
Enaruna is a sure fire future first rounder, possibly even a lottery pick. We will be lucky if he sticks around past year two.
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I think its premature to say where he’d end up in the draft but certainly he’s going to fit a lot of boxes of a player that could be drafted high.
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Might be in the market for another big in this class.
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BShark said:
Might be in the market for another big in this class.
What’s sparking that?
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Might be in the market for another big in this class.
What’s sparking that?
College sports is all about ABC. Always Be Cruitin.
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Does it seem Self is done w/big slow centers?
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@Crimsonorblue22 that’s a really interesting observation. I checked out the offer lists for 2020 and 2021 and we haven’t offered anyone we’d consider a “bruiser” like Dave or Doke. Lots of lanky, 210-230 pounders who have some skill.
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@FarmerJayhawk including our one post signee even if he is a project.
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Need an Marcus Morris, Aurthur, Wright type 4 if Bill really wants to keep running the hi-low.
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Might be in the market for another big in this class.
What’s sparking that?
I think it might be possibly from thinking that Silvio I think is gone whether pro or not - - I and a few others I’ve talked with just seem to think he will be gone after this year - -oversea’s maybe
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Is Silvio’s buddy having success in the nba?
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@Crimsonorblue22 Bench guy so far.
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We now have a great 4 man recruiting class - Coach did it again. @BShark you gave the
, who else do you think we’re going to sign.
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That was for Jossell I believe.
Staff is after Frank Anselem as he may reclassify into 20. Reading some things it would sound as if they prefer he’d stay in 21 where they would have the best chance of landing him. If he goes into 20 looks like LSU is the front runner
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BeddieKU23 said:
That was for Jossell I believe.
Staff is after Frank Anselem as he may reclassify into 20. Reading some things it would sound as if they prefer he’d stay in 21 where they would have the best chance of landing him. If he goes into 20 looks like LSU is the front runner
Yeah, I got to know about Jossell in advance due to a friendship not that it was even really a secret.
I hope you guys liked his commitment video edit.
Hard to see Anselem getting away from LSU regardless.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
That was for Jossell I believe.
Staff is after Frank Anselem as he may reclassify into 20. Reading some things it would sound as if they prefer he’d stay in 21 where they would have the best chance of landing him. If he goes into 20 looks like LSU is the front runner
Yeah, I got to know about Jossell in advance due to a friendship not that it was even really a secret.
I hope you guys liked his commitment video edit.
Hard to see Anselem getting away from LSU regardless.
Kendall Brown @BShark is a playah! We have got to sign him. I’m all in on signing the KC area and Sunrise kids, ditto keeping the Wasatch pipeline open.
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@Marco I’ve got a buddy that is now involved with Sunrise. Kendall is a baller and likes KU a lot. I will share any updates on him that I can.
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No Surprise, Adam Miller commits to Illinois.
Didn’t sign in the early period so that means he’ll sign with Duke in the Spring
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Some statistics to point out how this recruiting cycle is going.
The Big-12 has been hurt by KU’s NOA, Texas being young and having zero commits. Oklahoma also took a big class last year and only has 1 commit. Overall the Big-12 has 6 teams in the Top 20 team ranks
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@BeddieKU23 I believe those numbers reflect the ups and downs in the normal recruiting cycle more than anything.
Also, the Big 12 is smaller now than the other Big 5 power conferences and I no longer remember enough statistics to analyze the numbers properly.
And maybe HCBS has decided that the best way to get another NCAA title is with experienced players who have learned to play Billy-Ball and w/a couple of top 25 players (OADs) thrown in.
OR, I have no idea…
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BShark said:
@Marco I’ve got a buddy that is now involved with Sunrise. Kendall is a baller and likes KU a lot. I will share any updates on him that I can.
Would appreciate that.
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KK announcing Thursday. Can’t think KU has a shot but Arkansas is like 3 guys overcommitted at this point.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
KK announcing Thursday. Can’t think KU has a shot but Arkansas is like 3 guys overcommitted at this point.
IT WILL BE ARKANSAS
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FarmerJayhawk said:
KK announcing Thursday. Can’t think KU has a shot but Arkansas is like 3 guys overcommitted at this point.
hmmmm, well one might think that – - -that might give us a shot still BUT these programs have ways of working & twisting things around right? - -sure would be sweet if somehow we did fall into him. - We really don’t have any scholi’s right now either do we? - - - he probably still lands at Arkansas - -home town and such. – be nice him and Bryce together. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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With about 4 point guards on the roster
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KK picked Arkansas. Just a very puzzling decision given the roster
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BeddieKU23 said:
KK picked Arkansas. Just a very puzzling decision given the roster
Honestly… and I know that this doesn’t really happen much in basketball but he should have opened it back up. Neither KU or Arky made sense if he wants to play next year.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
KK picked Arkansas. Just a very puzzling decision given the roster
Honestly… and I know that this doesn’t really happen much in basketball but he should have opened it back up. Neither KU or Arky made sense if he wants to play next year.
Yupp. I liked his game so my criticism of his pick was more about him finding somewhere to play early without an uphill battle. I guess he was really sold on Musselman and staying home
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@BeddieKU23 I guess he is okay with being deep bench. He is ranked in the 70s and starting right away isn’t for everyone.
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Maybe there is a plan for him or the roster will open up a bit at seasons end the way Arkansas has gone about 3 over recruiting so far. Not signing in the fall at least keeps the options open slightly
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Curious , and I know there is no room on the roster for this year BUT just had a question. - -JT Thor didn’t sign in the early period most thought he would be signing early with Okla State. - -he didn’t , but said he never planned signing early from the start. - -There has been some talk about possible Over sea’s - -he said he thought some about- -but very unlikely.
Thing is I the article said there was four schools really focusing on him. – Oklahoma State - - - -Kentucky - - - KU - - & then I forget another school, his only official had been to Oklahoma State.
Having said all that to ask this question - -Is there ANY possible chance - - any at all with the extra time to work on him - -would there be any chance to convince him NOT to re-classify to 2020. - the article said class of 2022 , that’s not right is it, thought he was 2021. - -If he stayed put we could always hit him hard for next year. - -ANY CHANCE?
