Moore
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Is Moore the next Mason? Next Devonté? (For those that have seen enough tape of Moore), I don’t think I’ve seen enough to judge yet.
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@Ralster No. His AST/TO ratio in his FR year was not comparable to any season of Frank or Devonte. Also his game is different from them. He takes a lot of shots and isn’t as athletic as Frank.
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Yeah… I don’t want to judge him yet either. And we never know what a player will do once given PT. He might just end up being a find like Frank and Devonte!
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@BShark true in the past he has been a shoot first guy. What we, or at least I, don’t know is if that was the expectation and he did what he was asked. If that is the case perhaps if asked to be a pass first guard he will once more do what is asked of him.
Too soon to tell and mostly I hope he does the job well enough we don’t end up with a 40 minute a game point guard again.
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@Kubie good pt!
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So he’s basically a poor man’s Trae Young is what I’m gathering?
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chriz said:
So he’s basically a poor man’s Trae Young is what I’m gathering?
Go down a notch to homeless man’s Trae Young and I don’t think that’s too far off.
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@Kubie Self has had him for a year compared to his entire basketball life beforehand. I’ll be very interested to see if Self has tried to change his game though.
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Moore came with some hype from USC(?). I thought many had Moore pegged as the next pg after DG. It seems most on this board simply sees him as a solid backup pg to Dotson. We shall see exactly how quickly Dotson picks up the most important role in a fairly complex offense. I could see Moore buying Dotson some time to learn Self’s system. We all know Self will baptize Dotson with fire during the pre-season. Dotson seems to fit Self’s pg mold and Moore will simply be ready to supplement Dotson.
I will be curious to see where Dotson is as a pg when the first conference game rolls around. But, Self will rely on Grimes and Langford(?) to take some of the ball handling from Dotson. Let’s hope Dotson comes in and learns immediately, and becomes a key piece to the offense. We will also see much more inside play too with our 4 and 5 too than last year. Doke saw a lot, but not nearly enough. The 4 is going to be another key to the offense. I hope Silvio and KandDLawson will be a huge threat at the 4. Our 4 was a non-factor or even present. This last year it was 1,2,3, and 5. We had 5 players but we had no 4 presence at all.
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The game has changed.
There are no short treys in the Carney against the Nike-EST teams anymore.
No more running and jumping like young men flying off trampolines to score amazing dunks and banks. The days of Dr. J have gone to the same ash heap as the 2-hand set shot and the mid range J.
Using athleticism to create short treys and impact plays is the old way to play.
Athleticism is now about adding range to 40% accuracy beyond the semicircle.
Conference titles after 14 don’t matter anymore. The record is broken. Now it’s about playing for rings in a Carney of apparent asymmetries.
You can go as far as a two seed, as you can as a 1 seed, if you are loaded with trey guns and 2 bigs that can drain treys too.
But no rings for driving, pirouetting, leaping athleticism.
Athleticism without a trey is like a day without sunshine.
Is Moore a 40% 3pt shooter with up to 28 feet range?
Can he place the pass to the hands at the optimal position to go up for three?
No more lobbing jams either. Too low of a percentage.
Only passes to wide open dunks.
And to wide open treys.
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Balance between treys and twos?
We don’t need no stinking balance.
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North Carolina literally won the title last year with a very average three point shooting team.
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@BShark Ya, I was proud to actually see a Roy team actually win a grinder with rebounding, toughness, and D, and this despite Justin Jackson literally almost shooting his own team outta the gym. He jacked up some of the worst looking 3atts Ive ever seen. Yet UNC won despite him (NC game, but JJ certainly helped them get there). It didn’t even get a Roy-coat-unfurl/toss…
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@BShark That was two years ago, ‘Nova won last year. This year it’s the Hawks to lose! Game on! …damn it’s going to be a long off season.
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I might add from my earlier post that Garrett isn’t too bad either. I think he will make a huge improvement into next year. Garrett handled the ball and his first year should provide some momentum for next season. Look for Garrett to become a taller and maybe more versatile Aaron Miles in the upcoming season. Garrett is such a quiet, fundamental, and steady contributor for this team.
Also, a correction to my earlier post. I realized he transferred from Cal not USC…
I also went back to review his time at Cal. He’s a little like DG.
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Why Garrett played over Cunliffe is like a litmus test for understanding basketball.
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DMac is a freakin’ man-child…CRAP, he’s gonna be a beast. If we keep Doke for 1 more yr, we will have the most dominate inside presence of CBB.
The one thing that jumps out to me is his short game. He’s not bad 6-7 feet from the rim. He’s got a nice touch away from the rim.
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Moore’s game seems more Frank M than Devonte G. Finishes well at the rim with either hand, using his body to create or get into space. His game also seems more drive to shoot than drive to pass. That was early FM too. What he seems to do better maybe than either of them is to hit the runner. Of course, feel like we just watched his every scoring play from the year. Any other types of highlights? No assists?
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Ochai reminds me of KLangford. I still think, no disrespect to OA at all, but a redshirt would allow him to adjust and come in his second season as maybe one of the most dominate players in bball. I think a redshirt would make him even better and more hungry. We just don’t quite need him. I just don’t see him sniffing the court if we get RLangford. Again, NOTHING against OA at ALL. Either way he’ll be good, but let’s face it, most of these recruits are playing against average to slightly below average competition accept on the AAU circuit.
Notice in the dunk drill at the line? He has to take a power dribble. To me, this is a bad habit that many college players create and it carries over into games. He has to grab, pivot, two step, and jam. The ball will be slapped out of his hand or poked everytime in the lane if he tries that in at the D1 level. I get it, it’s a drill, but it creates mental habits that will likely translate into games. He’s good, and will be a great player at the next level. I’d like to see him consider a RS, no real reason, KU will be stacked if we land Langford.
See the inbound play to OA? Much like a Self play…haha
Love the kid in the KU sweatshirt too.
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@truehawk93 I think I was more impressed with QG passing highlights than Devon’s
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Bwag said:
@truehawk93 I think I was more impressed with QG passing highlights than Devon’s
Most definitely…QG is a 6-4,5 pg. He’s a humble Kobe Bryant caliber player…shhhh…don’t tell him that, but something tells me he can handle the comparison.
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One request for all these ELITE players…would someone please teach these kids to use the right hands and legs on a layup. This is one of the most glaring deficiencies of many of these top players. I learned and it was tough for the longest time, because it’s not dominate or natural. But it’s the right thing.
Use the Left hand, and right foot for a LEFT hand lay-up.
Use the Right hand, and Left foot for a Right hand lay-up.
I know…it’s tough and awkward, but much like a switch hitter or a South paw to use the Right hand…I remember learning as a RH pitcher, to turn toward 1st base for a 2nd base pick. It was AWKWARD, but once I learned and not step off with my right foot, and turn toward the runner or bag, my pick off ratio improved, and it looked better watching by my coaches. Remember Rocky? But when they learn and it becomes part of their game, it looks better watching, and it adds to their game. Again, if it’s not broke, don’t fix it…but just sayin.’
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Here is the thing. You are correct on the proper form of a layup, HOWEVER…
Once you play at an elite level you MUST learn to go off the wrong foot and mix up your timing or you will always get your shot blocked. These kids are playing against the best at a younger age so they are learning this also at a younger age. Also going off the “improper” leg makes it easier to jump into your defender and create contact and go shoulder to chest on a shot blocker.
If you only make layups with the “proper” legs you will be easier to guard.
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BigBad said:
Here is the thing. You are correct on the proper form of a layup, HOWEVER…
Once you play at an elite level you MUST learn to go off the wrong foot and mix up your timing or you will always get your shot blocked. These kids are playing against the best at a younger age so they are learning this also at a younger age. Also going off the “improper” leg makes it easier to jump into your defender and create contact and go shoulder to chest on a shot blocker.
If you only make layups with the “proper” legs you will be easier to guard.
BUT…if the defender is on my right side and I’m right handed? I use my right hand from the left side of defender, jumping off my right foot? Doesn’t that allow the defender to defend the ball better?
Whereas, if I use my LEFT hand, RIGHT leg/foot…ball away from the defender, who is on my right side/weak side, then use my body…I have a much better chance of an AND 1? IF I use your logic and jump right foot/leg, and use my right hand…the defender on my right side will eat the ball, not my body.
Same principle with Right hand, Left foot/leg when the defender is on my Left side…
Unless of course you’re being facetious?
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NO…Moore seems score first, pass second. Unless he has learned with DG to pass then score. He better if he expects to thrive at pg and in Self’s system. Dotson seems to be pass then score.
It’s gonna be FUN watching all the same.
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I was just thinking about an interesting player comparison. I realized the interesting styles between…
Keith Langford
Travis Releford
Wayne Selden
Ochai Agbagi
Pretty interesting when you watch the four. I don’t think OA hasn’t quite developed the outside shot that Selden and KL had, but their very interesting. I think Selden and Ochai have more power and strength. Releford and KL are similar. Just an interesting observation.
Although after watching the OA clip, he does have a nice stroke. Actually, the kid has some hops…dang…wonder what his vertical is?
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The basics are important to be sure, but @BigBad makes a great point about changing things up.
On top of that, you also have to go back to your strong hand when dealing with great shot blockers. I remember when I started playing against better shot blockers in HS and moving into college that I basically stopped shooting layups with my left hand unless it was a breakaway. Good shot blockers could reject a lefty layup with ease, but if I kept the ball in my strong hand, I could change my shot (floater, scoop, finger roll, double clutch, whatever) and still get a good attempt off, rather than an awkward half hearted flip at the basket with my off hand.
With as quick as a lot of the shotblockers now close space and get off the floor, you have to do whatever you can to disrupt their timing. Lots of kids now are learning the Eurostep, which is one way to do that, but they are also now teaching kids to keep the ball in their strong hand to finish the Eurostep off.
Additionally, at the higher levels, you always teach kids to finish by dunking when they can. As a result, you have to get them to keep the ball in their strong hand. If they are always switching to their off hand, they won’t dunk, which, for guys with an NBA future, is a bad habit to get into because NBA guys will block those layups all the time.
As a result, for a lot of kids, they don’t shoot layups with the “correct” hand once they start dunking because the teaching is to keep the ball in your strong hand to give you a chance to dunk whenever possible.
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Bwag said:
No assists?
Yeah, that’s the rub.
3.5 ast and 2.9 t/os in 29 mpg running the point at Cal.
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truehawk93 said:
Bwag said:
@truehawk93 I think I was more impressed with QG passing highlights than Devon’s
Most definitely…QG is a 6-4,5 pg. He’s a humble Kobe Bryant caliber player…shhhh…don’t tell him that, but something tells me he can handle the comparison.
Grimes has a fantastic feel for the game.
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@truehawk93 I expect Ochai to be a better shooter than KFreeze or Releford. Not that such a feat would be that difficult.
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Agbaji is a better shooter as a HS senior than any of the guys that you listed, @truehawk93
Now, Releford and Selden both developed quite a bit as three point shooters while at KU, so it will remain to be seen if Agbaji has enough growth in his game to develop like that over a four year period.
Langford never did develop much of a three point stroke. Never shot even 36% while at KU. I would imagine Agbaji would surpass that as a freshman given the mechanics I have seen on video from him. If I were a coach at KU, I would hope that Garrett develops to be a Langford level shooter, while I would hope that Agbaji develops to the point that Selden did (right around 40% from three by the time he is a junior). I think Agbaji’s development curve could make him a high level starter as a three or four year player. He has really impressed me with his development. Just looking back at what he was as a junior until now is an incredible thing to watch.
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Dunking is different than a layup. An athletic blocker will pin your layup almost 100% of the time. A fast break dunk is not a layup. A fast break dunk or flush is much more efficient and almost impossible to block.
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@truehawk93 Agbagi has interesting driving skills - he uses his body perfectly going to the hoop. That’s very impressive to me. It took Devonte 4 years to learn to use his shoulder to create space, and this kid does it every time he drives. He is officially on my future Jayhawk pick to click list. He might not even smell more than 2 minutes, or he might red shirt, but once this kid starts getting minutes in future years, I think he ends up making a very good impact on our program.
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GOD how I wish the season were starting sooner… all this back and forth has me drooling with a bad case of basketball jones
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Just about 4 months to late night…
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I haven’t even watched the feeds, but from the beginning my hunch has been Self sees a guy in Moore with the potential to play like the guy Larry Brown sent us for the World University Games. I doubt he is there yet after his time at Cal, but I think that is the kind of player Self hopes to develop Moore into.
Frank was shooting guard going to Towson State when he took him and saw the inner point guard that did not really bear PG fruit till his junior season. Frank was a most athlete with a great shooting eye and an afterburner like nobody’s business. But his ball handling skills and shoot/pass judgements were suspect his first two seasons.
Devonte was a born point guard that was kind of slight and gentle. It took him a season and a half for Self to let the inner lion out from the shooting guard position; then after a full season of roaring his junior year, and running the point to rest Frank at times, the born PG and the inner lion converged his senior season at the point.
Self has done the stuff too many times with too many successes to be pessimistic about Moore and his lack of a fifth star.
The key thing to remember is that Frank and Devonte REALLY benefitted from just one summer of playing with that terrific little fire plug of Larry’s down at SMU. Now, that guy was a point guard from the Dean, Brown, Self breed of point guards!!!
I suspect Moore is going to adapt pretty well to what Self wants out of him at the point.
But outside shooters are born and refined, not made.
So: the big question is this: is there room in the game these days for a point guard that cannot pot the triceratop at 40%, or higher?
By this I do NOT mean can the guy start and lead KU to a lot of wins and conference title. Put enough bigs and 5-star wings, so that all he has to do is distribute, push and guard, and no PG needs to be a Frank, or Devonte, from down town.
But to go to the Final Four and have a prayer of winning with all of these long and strongs at the 3, 4 and 5, sooner, or later, the team has to beat a 3-point offense like KU had last season, or a three point offense on steroids, like Nova had last season. The encounter usually comes from the Elite Eight on. And for those kinds of teams, your point guard is a serious weakness, if he cannot pot the triceratop. There are just too many possessions when a fine opposing team’s momentum has to be dagger with a trey, or possessions down the stretch, where a gap has to be closed with a trey, or a trey has to be answered with a trey, and “running the stuff” won’t get a three point look quickly enough.
But worst of all, EVERY coach in America is going to be trying to emulate Jay Wright’s zone, not just his volume trey shooting. And that zoning is going to be absolutely destabilizing to any team with a point guard that can’t drain the trey >40%.
Why?
Because it is so easy with a match up zone to turn things into a 5 on 4 game, when all a point guard can do is pass, or drive.
First, no-one cares if a CST point guard wearing adidas treads can drive into the seams of a zone in the EST Carney, because he is going to get the hell fouled out of him and never get a call.
Second, a PG that can’t pot the triceratop is a guy that a match up zone can ignore and stretch to help on someone that can.
It is hard to believe how fortunate KU has been to have two consecutive > 40% PGs. It is just the best of all possible worlds for the Small Ball Era.
To conclude, I am not really even a little worried about Moore being a fine point guard able to run the stuff Self’s way.
What I’m concerned about is whether he can be a serious threat from the trey stripe, when there isn’t any other way to manage games than to take and make treys?
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Frank’s SO and JR numbers were very similar, almost identical.
Nice officiating conspiracy thrown in for good measure.
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BShark said:
Frank’s SO and JR numbers were very similar, almost identical.
Nice officiating conspiracy thrown in for good measure.
Howling!
Let me play the straight man.
Question: Why EXACTLY might it PROVE SOMETHING, if they were similar, or identical? Frank was a vastly better player the second half of his junior year than he was any time during his sophomore year. Do you not understand that Frank’s role change drastically from sophomore to junior year, and quite a bit from junior to senior season, too. Don’t you think the changing rosters had an impact on Frank’s numbers and on the roles Frank was assigned by Self? If not, why not?
Next…
THERE. APPEAR. NO. CONSPIRACIES. IN. D1. IMHO.
NONE. HAVE. BEEN. PROVEN. THAT. I. CAN. RECALL.
YOU, @BSHARK, APPEAR POSSIBLY ADDICTED TO IMPUTING CONSPIRACY TO THINGS
I TRY UNSUCCESSFULLY TO HELP YOU GET THIS CONSPIRACY IMPUTATION MONKEY REGARDING ME OFF YOUR BACK.
CONSPIRACIES ARE APPARENTLY FOR SUCKERS.
AND MISCHARACTERIZATIONS OF OTHERS WITH “CONSPIRACY” AND “CONSPIRACY THEORY” APPEAR TO HAVE LOST THEIR SMEAR POWER.
ONE NOW HAS TO CALL SOMEONE A “TRUMPER”, OR A “COLLUDER WITH PUTIN AND RUSSIA,” OR MY NEW FAVORITE–“AN APPEASER OF NORTH KOREA.”
OF COURSE, I’M NONE OF THOSE, AND I DON’T BELIEVE IN CONSPIRACIES AND CONSPIRACY THEORIES ABOUT CONSPIRACIES IN D1 EITHER.
CONSPIRACIES IN D1 ARE APPARENTLY FOR SUCKERS…
ROCK CHALK!
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@jaybate-1.0 33% from 3 is virtually the same as 50% from the 2. 40% from 3 calculates out to 60% from 2. We had to shoot 40 north last year because we couldn’t get a rebound to save our lives. If Charlie shoots 35% from 3, we’re in the Final Four. I love Charlie- his game gives every rec league wanna be hope. Talk about utilizing what you have…Charlie is just nosing for the basket every time. The backboard angles he uses show his gym rat bonafides, and the guy is simply nails in open space. I think the kid is special, and if we need for him to make 40%, he’ll manage.
I don’t think we’ll see Dedric at the 3. Now KJ Lawson at the 3 is a possibility.
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Charlie understands spacing and timing on his drive finishes. That’s a tough thing to teach players. His freshman year highlights from Cal show how he finishes in a crowd in the Pac 12.
I have high hopes for Charlie! He is bound to get some decent PT because of his experience alone.
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@KUSTEVE jethros back
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KUSTEVE said:
@jaybate-1.0 33% from 3 is virtually the same as 50% from the 2. 40% from 3 calculates out to 60% from 2. We had to shoot 40 north last year because we couldn’t get a rebound to save our lives. If Charlie shoots 35% from 3, we’re in the Final Four. I love Charlie- his game gives every rec league wanna be hope. Talk about utilizing what you have…Charlie is just nosing for the basket every time. The backboard angles he uses show his gym rat bonafides, and the guy is simply nails in open space. I think the kid is special, and if we need for him to make 40%, he’ll manage.
I don’t think we’ll see Dedric at the 3. Now KJ Lawson at the 3 is a possibility.
Welcome back old compatriot. Solid points here. Regardless of who wins the starting PG spot, Moore and Dotson will both help the team.
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@drgnslayr The one legged mid range jumper is one of my favorites. The way he drives to the basket, and spins the ball two inches from the end of the backboard, and uses english to coax the ball in the net are rec league favorites. Those are shots I used to attempt…and he nails them! It might not always be very athletic, or very pretty, but the kid is a battler and he knows how to get the ball in the hoop.
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@BShark I think Dotson will own the paint. The drives to the basket will be walks in the park, with two behemoths setting screens down low.
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@KUSTEVE grimes is doing a pretty good job of that.
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Grimes, Dotson, Moore and Garrett are all good at driving. Teams are definitely going to pitch a tent in the paint.
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@KUSTEVE and @drgnslayr
The “more” you guys talk about “Moore,” the more I see him being Self’s version of the SMU guard that lead us to victory in the World University Games a few summers back.
I see a structural strategic problem with tolerating 35-38% perimeter shooters and thinking that one does not need to keep shooting a lot of treys, because we have six bigs, and can get more 50-60% stick backs. Its rooted in 3 > 2.
Leaving aside that most teams probably will NOT be able to emulate Nova; i.e., not be able to be apparently stacked with 6 > 39% trifectates via metaphorically unmarked dump trucks apparently dumping apparently mischaracterized 75-100 rank players late at night in the Palestra parking lot good enough to blow out teams loaded with 1-75 ranked players and 2-3 >39% trifectates, what Jay Wrong demonstrated last season is that there is always some number of 3ptas by one team greater than the number of 3ptas taken by another team that yields a winning edge, if the three point shooting team taking more 3ptas is shooting even reasonably well. This is CRUCIAL to keep in mind as we move forward in college basktetball.
You don’t have to have six > 39% trey ballers to take 10 more 3ptas than the opponent. You can do it with 2, or 3, or 4 trifectates. But your shooting volatility (variance due to particular shooters being on, or off, for a game) apparently rises as the number of 3pt shooters declines. The more trifectates you have, the more likely you are to find at least two trifectates in any given game able to shooting at the 40% mark, or higher. So: the more trifectates you have in the rotation, the less volatility risk you face in playing the 3pt-first way. Jay Wrong showed that six, including two trifectates at post, lowered the volatility so low that Nova could steamroller its way through a six game tournament with ease, if he were just willing to keep shooting more 3ptas than an opponent, regardless of how many 3ptas the opponent took.
Self’s strategy of trying not to shoot more than 25-30 3ptas, rooted in his deep, quasi metaphysical faith “balance,” became his own self made prison last season against Nova.
Moving forward, we can reasonably hope that Self, who has broken through all his previous metaphysical blinders in the past, when harsh losses knocked them from his head, will be dialing up the treys to 10 more than his opponents, whenever he plays a good three point shooting team.
Speaking conceptually, at least, there is always some number more 3ptas you can take to offset either a hot trey shooting opponent, or a volume shooting trey opponent. Again, conceptually, one should even be able to offset some increment of deficiency in 3pt accuracy of your own team by taking more treys than an opponent that shoots them more accurately than you do.
For example, much as this runs counter to certain board rats beliefs, KU would likely easily have overcome Nova’s hot hand in the tournament, if Self had just dialed up the 3ptas to +10, or +20, above what Nova in fact took, IF, that is, Jay would have let him.
Every attempted short trey by adidas-CST KU was futile against NIKE-EST Nova. There were not going to be hardly any short treys called, so every time KU took what was given by Nova’s defense, KU was being the 2 in the 3 > 2 equation. And Jay took advantage every chance he got by answering a KU 2 with a Nova 3.
3 > 2 is essentially the new E=mc^2 of D1.
Note: its actually not new either. From the moment the trey was instituted, a few coaches, like Paul Westhead, of Loyola Marymount, and certain others in Division II, and NAIA ball, have tried to exploit 3 > 2.
The corollary to 3> 2 is: every time a team shoots a 2, shoot a 3, until a large enough lead is built worth defending with 2s.
Fouling everywhere all the time could work against a good three point shooting team, if one had enough depth and fouls to give.
Self appears to be set with six bigs and so positioned to try just that.
But when you foul an opponent every where all the time, you reduce their offense more or less to a FT shooting offense. KU’s opponents averaged .713 from the FT stripe for the season. That sounds pretty daunting to overcome and it is. But the idea is to foul so much that the refs won’t call them all, and so much that even a high make rate from the stripe cannot replace the misses created on shots inside and out, especially the threes.
Stop and think about it.
Every time a foul is not called and yet triggers a severely hampered shot, or a steal, or TO, that is in effect 2, or 3 point attempt that never get effectively attempted.
Self has long grasped that he can beat a lot of teams simply by getting sharply more shooting attempts over 40 minutes.
But the more 3 point attempts an opponent takes, the harder that is to do, unless you counter the trey with your own trey at the other end. Fail to do that and you begin a long slow process of ending up with fewer attempted points at game’s end.
So: what I believe Self was signaling, when he said that Dedric would likely take as many or more 3ptas this coming season, as Lagerald Vick took last season, is that Self has learned his lesson from Jay Wright.
Self is going to scheme a smothering, foul everywhere all the time defense cornerstones on six post men with 30 fouls to give, allowing: a.) his perimeter to overplay the trey out to about 30 feet; and b.) eliminate all unfouled 2ptas in close.
But that’s only the defensive part of the equation.
On offense, Self has likely learned that you have to shoot more treys than your opponent until you build a lead that can be defended, and the worse your three point shooters are, the more three point attempts you have to take to make up for their deficiency in three point shooting accuracy.
The object of the game is to score the most points, not to score them with the higher percentage of accuracy.
The way you score the most points, if you are not a great shooting team, is to ramp up how many points you attempt, so even though you may make a lower percentage than your opponent, you attempt so many more that you wind up scoring more points anyway.
ffensive rebounding and second shots
The most productive paths to more attempts are:
a.) more steals and TOs diminishing an opponents attempts in ratio with yours; and
b.) more three point attempts in ratio with their three point attempts and more three point attempts in ratio with their two point attempts; and
c.) more offensive rebounds and second shots.
Clearly, KU will get more offensive rebounds and more second shots because they have more bigs.
By playing foul everywhere all the time, it could create a much greater number of steals and TOs.
By taking more treys than the opponent, and more than KU took last season, it could end up scoring more points, despite its likely lesser 3pt shooting accuracy.
Whether we bang it inside a lot most of the season against cupcakes and lesser opponents most of the season is pretty immaterial to preparations for trying to prepare to win games in the Carney from the Sweet 16 onward.
From the Sweet 16 onward, when player abilities and roster depth increasingly converge at higher and higher levels, attempting more points than an opponent is the surest path the scoring more points than an opponent.
Part of the net advantage comes from shooting more treys than the opponent does.
Part of the net advantage comes from preventing more shots of any kind by the opponent.
But I would still rather try to attempt more points than an opponent with a bunch of highly accurate three point shooters, than not.
Rock Chalk!
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BShark said:
Grimes, Dotson, Moore and Garrett are all good at driving. Teams are definitely going to pitch a tent in the paint.
Except for NOVA.
NOVA will try to get Grimes, Dotson, Moore and Garret to drive every possession!
3 > 2
Every drive is an auto-stop, or a self stop, if you will.
Every drive is choosing to attempt 2 points instead of 3 points.
Thus, every drive is foolish.
Every drive instead of a trey is 1/3 of a self stop.
Each time a team takes a 2 point attempt, when it could take a 3 point attempt, it is a monument to stupidity, unless…
One is playing the clock with a big lead over an opponent late.
