Game Day Chat room
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Blown said:
will self win a second title…ever?
Yes
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kuballin10 said:
@BigBad I know I’m gonna puke when Nova comes in and pounds us by 15 in Allen…I know they lose a lot so we probably win but duke will destroy us next year playing what I call golden state ball
I don’t see duke being any better then this year. Even younger no knock down shooters a lot of positionless players
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BigBad said:
Imagine
Dotson Grimes Langford Garrett(if his shot improves) Lawson
Small ball…
Wonder if bill ever wins one again. Watch us be dominate down low like he wants and get beat. The four guards best chance was last year unfortunately utilizing them how bill does with the weave and dump downs
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BigBad said:
I see Moore as a Russel Robinson type for Self.
Yikes u will be really dissappointed. He’s short, not quick, doesn’t produce turnovers. Not sure where u got ur analysis
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BShark said:
BigBad said:
Imagine
Dotson Grimes Langford Garrett(if his shot improves) Lawson
Small ball…
KJ at the 4 works too.
Except he can’t shoot
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I actually think Bill will win a second and third title if not more in the next 7-10 years of he will stay that long
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The hate on Bill Self can stop immediately, do I think Jay Wright is a better coach? Maybe but Idc I’m proud of the job Self has done this season.
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BeddieKU23 said:
kuballin10 said:
@BigBad I know I’m gonna puke when Nova comes in and pounds us by 15 in Allen…I know they lose a lot so we probably win but duke will destroy us next year playing what I call golden state ball
I don’t see duke being any better then this year. Even younger no knock down shooters a lot of positionless players
You might be right. Barrett can score and jones can shoot but he ain’t half as good as his brother. Zion if he can shoot is unstoppable though
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kuballin10 said:
BigBad said:
I see Moore as a Russel Robinson type for Self.
Yikes u will be really dissappointed. He’s short, not quick, doesn’t produce turnovers. Not sure where u got ur analysis
He was a freshman asked to carry a big role on a really bad cal team. His size is what concerns me the most as he’s looked like a middle school player since he got here. He can play and with a possible 4 years here it will be impossible to expect he won’t step up at some point
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@kjayhawks make zero mistake about it. Bill has his faults and has had his failings. It’s just simply that this season as a whole was not one of those. But… It’s also anyones choice to think whatever the hell they want about him honestly. And to say it
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@kjayhawks not hating man stating issues in basketball philosophy. Hall of famer and does great with low talent just needs to put guys in better positions and change some things. Don’t get defensive man everyone loves bill but he’s not infallible.
A week to prepare don’t think we Expected this. Dump it to doke, not guard the three and not shoot threes is not what got us year
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BeddieKU23 said:
kuballin10 said:
BigBad said:
I see Moore as a Russel Robinson type for Self.
Yikes u will be really dissappointed. He’s short, not quick, doesn’t produce turnovers. Not sure where u got ur analysis
He was a freshman asked to carry a big role on a really bad cal team. His size is what concerns me the most as he’s looked like a middle school player since he got here. He can play and with a possible 4 years here it will be impossible to expect he won’t step up at some point
I’m afraid he’s a cunliffe and will transfer or redshirt. He will always get recruited over
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Barrett is a future stud. Jones is going to have some tough moments, Dotson is better then him. They look like a team that will have no bench or size but they might get another 5 star in montgomery… who knows I don’t see it with them
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Not what got us here*** stupid autocorrect
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@BeddieKU23 they will coach k is dirtier than cal…u heard it here first
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@kuballin10 Moore can actually play basketball unlike Cunliffe. I think he will be a solid back-up. If he ever has to start, then that’s problematic.
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He’s better then sam. Sam apparently didn’t know much about being a basketball player so I wouldn’t lump them together
What I always come back to is we took Charlie and could have had someone to help us this yr… he better pay off
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I can hesitantly agree…would rather play Garrett at the point. He can get to the rim really well for his size but has a looonnnggg way to go to do that. Would like it only to play 4 big guards who can all defend. If bill preaches D like he claims he does Charlie isn’t playing much
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Michigan is helplessly overmatched but they defend so it will be lower scoring then 95
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BeddieKU23 said:
He’s better then sam. Sam apparently didn’t know much about being a basketball player so I wouldn’t lump them together
What I always come back to is we took Charlie and could have had someone to help us this yr… he better pay off
Who? I don’t remember anyone honestly except thornton from duke I think but he wasn’t leaving the west coast after duke screwed him
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ouch man what a terrible way to end the season
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Wow, if they do this to us…hate to see what they will do to Michigan. I see a 20+ blow out in the NC game. I think it’s safe to say that Nova will be the next NC. If they play at this level or higher, it’s not going to be a game at all. Nova could have an average game and still win by a fair margin at this point. I was afraid of this possibility. Another team beat three B12 teams to the NC game…WVU, TT, and KU…wow…WOW. They beat our top three teams in the conference and the conference champion, conference tourney champion…WOW. I have no words.
Great season and couldn’t have asked for more. They are a great team and special.
Michigan 70
Nova 99 (might even break the century mark) I will be shocked if Michigan wins.
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@BeddieKU23 no
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DoubleDD said:
ouch man what a terrible way to end the season
Not even close…that woulda been against penn or seton hall
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truehawk93 said:
Wow, if they do this to us…hate to see what they will do to Michigan. I see a 20+ blow out in the NC game. I think it’s safe to say that Nova will be the next NC. If they play at this level or higher, it’s not going to be a game at all. Nova could have an average game and still win by a fair margin at this point. I was afraid of this possibility. Another team beat three B12 teams to the NC game…WVU, TT, and KU…wow…WOW. They beat our top three teams in the conference and the conference champion, conference tourney champion…WOW. I have no words.
Great season and couldn’t have asked for more. They are a great team and special.
Michigan 70
Nova 99 (might even break the century mark) I will be shocked if Michigan wins.
Michigan will win.
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@DoubleDD please don’t bet any money on it…it’s as bad as throwing it into the wind
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I bet Duke goes small ball next year and starts all 4 freshmen. Zion will play a small 4. Just have Bolden rebound everything and push. I bet they are better.
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Someone else noted if we had power 4 like preston how different things may have been plus he could shoot it from outside
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I really want to know what the game plan was at least defensively.
Well bill just said gameplan went to crap lol
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kuballin10 said:
Someone else noted if we had power 4 like preston how different things may have been plus he could shoot it from outside
Dont think that helps tonight.
We couldnt defend the 3 at all spots and our guards couldnt create anything on offense.
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@kjayhawks I’m w/you. After losing preston, doke hurting his knee, and getting a high schooler ready to play, I’d say Self did pretty darn good. He put up w/a lot of crap this year. We are really losing a great leader in dg, not sure where that’s coming from next year.
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Bill just said won’t watch the tape just nova played great and he’s already watched the game
Homer Simpson…DOH!!!
articles about him learning stuff in the Chicago tribune are crap.
Learn something man. Defense run guys off the line make these kids shoot driving layups and mid range ALL GAME
OFFENSIVLy spacing, spacing, spacing
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BigBad said:
kuballin10 said:
Someone else noted if we had power 4 like preston how different things may have been plus he could shoot it from outside
Dont think that helps tonight.
We couldnt defend the 3 at all spots and our guards couldnt create anything on offense.
Didn’t mean I think we win just how things may have been different. Preston is quicker than silvio
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20-8 Villanova Assists to ours.
We played all one on one ball and we dont have the skill for it.
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@kuballin10 You’d think he would have learned from going up against ISU when Hoi was there.
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Doke just said postgame plan was from the jump to feed him the ball down low
Face palm…dag gum it william
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Bill will never win another one until he truly changed his philosophy not just playing 4 guards because his roster requires it
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@BigBad Assists comparison is irrelevant because of how much better they shot. DG set up Malik, Svi and Vick 2 times a piece for good open looks that were missed from 3, Garrett also missed 2 3s that were so open I could’ve at least drew iron. The team that shoots the best will have the most assists 9/10 times.
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kuballin10 said:
Doke just said postgame plan was from the jump to feed him the ball down low
Face palm…dag gum it william
I…I don’t understand. This literally failed LAST YEAR against Oregon.
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A few years from now this season by Bill Self will be even more appreciated. A lot of people here over value “our guys” as far as talent goes. This group is really just a talented college team and void of real NBA talent. The kind of talent it usually takes to win it all.
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BShark said:
kuballin10 said:
Doke just said postgame plan was from the jump to feed him the ball down low
Face palm…dag gum it william
I…I don’t understand. This literally failed LAST YEAR against Oregon.
If he’s willing to do it with Lucas he will never stop which is sad.
Pound it inside…high percentage shots. Sutton doesn’t know everything William.
Gotta change man or else it’s heaetbreak again and again.
If we continue to go inside to start games and run the third grade weave I’m gonna meet bill on hawktalk and instead of an autograph ask my question then hand him a book by jay Wright’s basketball philosophy and two titles.
We talk all the time on whiffing recruits that duke, uk and unc get.
Nova has our level of recruiting but wright has figured out defensive pressure based on today’s game and offensive spacing/ball movement with guys who can shoot but maybe aren’t top 10 recruits.
WATCH THE TAPE BILL
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@kuballin10 Actually by rankings Nova recruits on a slightly lower level than KU. They will sign guys in the 75-150 ranking range in the early period without hesitation. Wright has a good eye for evaluation and knowing who they can get.
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BShark said:
@kuballin10 Actually by rankings Nova recruits on a slightly lower level than KU. They will sign guys in the 75-150 ranking range in the early period without hesitation. Wright has a good eye for evaluation and knowing who they can get.
One thing they all can do though is shoot
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@kuballin10 Yep. Hoiberg was good at finding shooters too.
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How the hell did Xavier beat this team twice?
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@kjayhawks die by the 3?
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kjayhawks said:
How the hell did Xavier beat this team twice?
They even lost to St Johns. Basketball is a funny sport sometimes.
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@HighEliteMajor Good luck with the X files - and your welcome. - Come on man just admit it we just flat got beat by the better team plain and simple. Coach said it several said it - -they are/were the better team.- - By far doesn’t take away from a very successful season and doing more then anybody ever thought they would do - - ya have fun with your X-files
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kjayhawks said:
How the hell did Xavier beat this team twice?
They beat Xavier like a red headed step child twice this year. Ironically 95-79 and also 89-65.
Lost to Butler, St. John’s, and Providence. And loss the conference to Xavier who only had the two losses to ‘Nova in conference.
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Nova had a normal shooting night against WVU and beat them in a similar fashion to a KU. I have hope. Nova had an off shooting night and beat TTech by 11 - red flag. Nova shoots off the charts and whoops a slightly below average shooting KU team. Ouch.
I mean it’s not as if this was the worst defense in the history of the final four, but Nova destroyed the record for 3s made.
