NCAA Corruption Investigation - Kansas Identified?
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At least all the news today has made the day go by quickly.
Just still laughing that the “bomb” Yahoo was supposed to drop that could “take down programs and HOF coaches” appears to have been more like a tiny chink in a 6 foot thick lead door.
Honestly, the only thing I’ve seen from this that even peaks my interest is that Izzo seems far from the boy scout he has been made out to be.
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KUSTEVE said:
@BShark So, what’s the big dealio? Sounds like Pat “Mizery” Ford is simply muckraking. Just wait until it comes out what Mizery did to get those 5 star recruits to go to Meth U. I mean, they had to be paid to go to that cesspool, imho.
It’s not a big deal. As things currently stand I doubt KU has to vacate any wins.
Stuff will come out about Cuonzo and Porter Jr. Bet on it. Cuonzo was dirty has his previous two stops, so why would he quit that at Mizoorah?
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@BShark That twitter account is fire today. Holy hell im laughing out loud at work right now and don’t even care.
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https://twitter.com/gifhawk/status/967070209008742400
this one had me crying.
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@Kcmatt7 one of my favorite follows
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@KUSTEVE And now we go for a live look-in to COLUMBIA MISSOURI.
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Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanESPN Follow Follow @GoodmanESPN More Josh Jackson’s mother, Apples Jones, told ESPN she never received any money from Andy Miller or Christian Dawkins. “I have never met Andy Miller, and while we had a relationship with Christian, we never took anything from him.”
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I’m just imagining the freaking Yahoo! editor and writers thinking they have this bombshell, and now the response across the country is mainly just people laughing at them lol.
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@HighEliteMajor I am thinking about your comments about the weaknesses in the federal case.
Most fraud conspiracies involve a group of people trying to take someone else’s money. Maybe the prosecutors will try to prove a criminal conspiracy to give away money. And, you know something? It is a concept so downright unAmerican it should be illegal.
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So I read a little further and they found Apple Jones, JJ’s mom, took a whopping $2,700. This was due to the car damage incident as a result of the little trouble maker and her daddy that went after Vick and Josh. Wow…This was all known, and Josh did some sitting if I remember correctly. Also, I thought there was a payback of that money. I wish they would dig deeper rather than going on what is already known.
This is getting ludicrous and ridiculous all at the same, and laughable.
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@BShark Columbia, Misery is all that is in Misery.
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That’s a kick azz shredder. Where can I get one.
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Let’s remember, this is about one agent. I doubt it’s contained to one agent.
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The really sad reality is these vultures circle these players and their families, knowing they need money.
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haha…Roy says he ‘ain’t’ worried at all. Dook says nothing here.
Then KU has NOTHING.
Oh…Hey Coach K, what happened to Bagley. Naw, no impermissible issues at Dook, smh.
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@truehawk93 I thought she took the money on February 16th 2016. He didn’t sign to be a Jayhawk until April 2016.
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In honor of Apple Jones, I am starting Josh Jackson tonight in my Draft Kings lineup. Hopefully, JJ can get me the cash like his mom did.
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Before he signed
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Here’s what should be done.
Who had violations?
What were the extents of those violations?
How old were the violations?
Were the violations discovered and reported by the respected programs?
Also, how many players and over what amount of time should be reviewed in the investigations? Was it directly related to a program? Before signing? Or after they left the program?
What amounts were accepted? Unfortunately if it was over $200, it’s a violation.
I don’t understand why the FBI doesn’t take it up with these greedy azz agents only. But like Pitino, I find it hard to believe these head coaches don’t know about these issues. I think the majority DO.
I am surprised that Izzo failed to catch Bridges, but I don’t want my objectivity clouded by my ‘respect’ for him as a coach. But if this is the only recruit, with Izzo, I could see some type of allowance.
Mark Emmert ordered this investigation, it wouldn’t surprise me if the NCAA says, thank you and turns a blind eye. I think this was an objective exercise for the NCAA. I do believe the coaches involved and the agents should be charged with criminal activity.
Don’t punish the kids.
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Does anyone think that would vacate the 2017 season if this is proven true?
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@kjayhawks no
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kjayhawks said:
Does anyone think that would vacate the 2017 season if this is proven true?
No, I find it extremely unlikely
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Texas holding out Eric Davis. Only team that seems to not be denying it. Shaka earned a few points with me today…
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Is the streak in jeopardy?
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@HighEliteMajor nah
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@HighEliteMajor no more than Woodens should be…
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Im just plain confused as to what this all means for KU. For one thing I have zero doubts about Bill Self’s integrity and ethics. I have a very hard time believing he did or would do anything that would compromise that and risk KU’s reputation.
For another thing, I saw Josh Jacksons name on that list as well as Elijah Johnson’s.
Again, no clue what this means or what will happen. But this sucks donkey balls. What the hell??
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I swear I saw something that says Elijah Johnson , 15k loan a couple days after he left KU. Am I crazy?? Did anyone else see that?
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I think this presents a Clear and Present Danger to NCAA basketball…this just about sums it up…
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Apple Jones claims the the rumors are false, http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/feb/23/josh-jacksons-mother-apples-jones-denies-accepting/ , the next deal becomes what can they prove any of stuff happened? If a guy just gives you names of people he has given money to, if even true he’d have to have a paper trail.
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@kjayhawks She doesn’t sound like a person that would get within 100 miles of any sordid business. She appears to me to be too smart for that- she certainly is no dummy. And if she is right, then what is trying to be accomplished by trying to smear her, and KU?
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Worst case for KU will likely be some combination of probation and a loss of a scholarship. If more comes out, that could change, but for $2700, there won’t be anything major with KU.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I knew Arizona cheated to get Ayton away from us!!! Miller is rotten.
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@Big-Clyde52 they are so screwed lol
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Sean Miller supposedly caught on wire tap talking about $100,000 payment to land Deandre Ayton.
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@Buster-1926 The bigger fish is Miller at Arizona!!! 100K worth of fish to get Ayton.
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No wonder he sweats so much! I bet he paid ole tarz. too. Didn’t get his money’s worth on him.
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Is there a difference between a family member getting money compared to a player?
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HighEliteMajor said:
Sean Miller supposedly caught on wire tap talking about $100,000 payment to land Deandre Ayton.
If it’s on tape, Miller is screwed.
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Report: FBI Wiretaps Show Sean Miller Discussed $100k Payment for Ayton’s Commitment
Sean Miller is a tool. No wonder we missed on Ayton. We didn’t offer him $100,000. This is absolutely unacceptable. This is the type of crap that needs the death penalty, loss of scholarships, and loss of coaching position.
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Kinda like Preston’s car, if it was legitimate then there should be easily traceable documentation – same with these ‘loans’. Apples Jones’ denials seem credible enough to me. I am going to withhold judgment until there is more evidence than just names and dollar amounts on a spreadsheet.
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@mayjay Let players fabricate what they will. The truth will come out in an investigation. You can’t make this crap up on the fly. This is a nasty mess. As a bball fan, I’m saddened.
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I have a problem keeping a straight face when I read Yahoo and Federal documents in the same sentence. Seriously, when did Yahoo become a credible legal watch dog?
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Speaking of the tourney. Can you imagine what tv sponsors are doing right now?
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@truehawk93 FBI apparently chose them to be the ones who they trust to release the info
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Why doesn’t Yahoo find out about Bagley. He’s like Waldo. Where is Marvin Bagley? Inquiring minds want to know. Now all we need is the National Enquirer and Jerry Springer interviewing the agents, with the coaches. We’d have an all out knock down drag out show.
How about BAD BOYS OF THE NCAA…“Bad boys, bad boys…whatcha gonna do when they come for you, bad boys bad boys…”
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Does anyone know who our announcers are tomorrow? Going to be ugly all basketball day long having to listen to the ‘talking heads’ about this debacle.
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@truehawk93 I missed your post.
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Yeah, we need to get focused on the game. I’m sure they will make this mess a point of interest at some point during interviews. I hope if Holly Rowe is on the floor, she refrains from asking Self any questions about this crap.
Self has commented all he knows and frankly, nothing on KU at this time. If the whole Apples $2700 thing is all they’ve got, it’s moot.
