2019 Recruiting
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Self meeting with Hurt tomorrow.
Duke’s in today…
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Also want to add I love the constant contact KU is keeping with Hurt. Not a prospect we want going somewhere else
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@BeddieKU23 Well I hope we are showing them film of Perry and how we used him on the perimeter and inside. Because Duke and Kentucky both have proof they will let their 4 man shoot it. Perry was the first 4 that Bill ever let take 3s.
If we do miss, at least we are in on a lot of bigs for 2019.
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@Kcmatt7 The twins had the green light also.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Well I hope we are showing them film of Perry and how we used him on the perimeter and inside. Because Duke and Kentucky both have proof they will let their 4 man shoot it. Perry was the first 4 that Bill ever let take 3s.
If we do miss, at least we are in on a lot of bigs for 2019.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out. This has a Dotson/Grimes feel to it where the staff is putting a lot of early work in before AAU stuff pops up. I always felt the relationship KU built with those two early helped when things got tight late. Also it helps that Hurt seems to have reciprocated interest in KU and if all goes according to plan there’s a likely-hood that the staff can sell him a starting spot in an offense he would flourish in.
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@BeddieKU23 Well I feel like we are about to start recruiting at a level we have never seen Bill recruit after the FBI probe. Clearly had players bought away from us these last few years. Add in USA basketball, and it is realistic to think the 2019 class will be an absolute monster one.
What a coup would it be to land JRE, Hurt and Carey?
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Well I feel like we are about to start recruiting at a level we have never seen Bill recruit after the FBI probe. Clearly had players bought away from us these last few years. Add in USA basketball, and it is realistic to think the 2019 class will be an absolute monster one.
What a coup would it be to land JRE, Hurt and Carey?
One of those is already in, just hasn’t formally announced.
I’m very interested to see who’s on that USA squad he’s coaching. It should be a nice advantage for once
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@BeddieKU23 yep. I think JRE pops officially next fall.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Also want to add I love the constant contact KU is keeping with Hurt. Not a prospect we want going somewhere else
Top top top top target. The evidence is clear.
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Kcmatt7 said:
What a coup would it be to land JRE, Hurt and Carey?
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Some 19 updates reading other boards, well the Duke Board. Usually we are locked in battles with them but we don’t seem to be crossing paths so far with too many outside of Hurt/Carey.
Joe Girard apparently is all Duke. Girard? He broke the New York state scoring record and he’s only a Junior. I’ve seen him play, they played a team that lives about 15 minutes from me. Non-athletic white kid ranked in the 100’s. He can really shoot it from anywhere often doing his best Trae Young impersonation from 35 feet. Has a lot of big-time offers, Michigan, Cuse, Notre Dame, etc. Helicopter dad and a cocky kid from all those that talk about him.
Bryan Antoine- #7 ranked player apparently is just biding his time. Sounds like he gave the staff a silent commitment at this point.
Isaiah Stewart- #25, bruiser inside. Sounds like he’s Duke’s as well.
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@BeddieKU23 The sexting stuff with teenagers is unreal.
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@Hawk8086 the fact they get in trouble for it to this degree is what blows my mind.
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@BeddieKU23 Girard LOOKS like a Dukie. I nearly threw up looking at his profile pic.
Duke lately has been trending ahead of UK but they thought Knox was a lock too. Cal hasn’t given up on Antoine so I won’t count him out yet.
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Girard looks like a shorter JJ Redick. Nice 4 year player, but limited in what he will be able to do in college because he’s not that big, and his game dictates that he needs to play off the ball to be the most successful, kind of like Jeff Boschee.
Boschee’s career really took off playing with Aaron Miles and Kirk Hinrich because he could get his catch and shoot game going. Playing on ball, Boschee couldn’t catch and shoot, so he wasn’t as dangerous. His senior year, with both Miles and Hinrich, he shot 46% from three while taking over 6 threes a game.
Girard needs to be paired with a good PG, otherwise he’s going to disappoint from playing out of position.
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Heard today the Hurts are really looking at PG situations for a school and definitely not set on being OAD. They really want the second pro contract.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Heard today the Hurts are really looking at PG situations for a school and definitely not set on being OAD. They really want the second pro contract.
Well this seems excellent for KU.
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@BShark I’m sticking to my guns that we’re getting Hurt and JRE in 19. Dante also a possibility if he wants to reclassify.
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@FarmerJayhawk That would be nasty. Hurt is definitely the top priority, they have visited him more as a JR than any recruit I can remember.
The PG thing just seems like a huge plus because SO Dotson is going to be very good. Also if he really is a two year player he would easily be my top want in 2019.
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@BShark I agree. I think Grimes is going to be around for that year as well. Definitely not sold on him being a OAD. Hurt with 2 years of Hudy will be a NPOY candidate.
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One day I must apologize to Hurt for not wanting him in this class. I think I did say that once. But man his junior film looks really good and with the game the way it is there is no player other then Achiuwa tailor made more for this team
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@BeddieKU23 Yep, he’s a great modern post player.
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Duke is no longer recruiting EJ Montgomery. Wow.
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Would not shock me to see Richards transfer if they land Montgomery and Washington comes back. No room at the inn.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Would not shock me to see Richards transfer if they land Montgomery and Washington comes back. No room at the inn.
They were 2 scholarships under the limit this season. They will be fine. Now from a PT perspective you might be right.
Has anyone but PJ Washington declared for them yet?
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LOL AS I TYPE IT KNOX MAKES IT OFFICIAL
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@BShark Scholarships is not the problem lol. Vanderbilt, Washington, SKJ and Gabriel were all playing in front of him last year. Add Montgomery into the mix and I don’t see where his minutes come from.
Of course UK won’t get roasted that Richards, Gabriel, Vanderbilt and Washington all come back for multiple years despite being top 25 players. Only Self gets that treatment.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Scholarships is not the problem lol. Vanderbilt, Washington, SKJ and Gabriel were all playing in front of him last year. Add Montgomery into the mix and I don’t see where his minutes come from.
Of course UK won’t get roasted that Richards, Gabriel, Vanderbilt and Washington all come back for multiple years despite being top 25 players. Only Self gets that treatment.
Yeah, what a shitty and tired narrative.
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Vernon Carey will have his top 5 tomorrow. Guessing Duke, Miami, Michigan State, UK, and UNC.
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@FarmerJayhawk If he doesn’t come here I hope he puts us out of the misery now. Glad Porter Jr. Eliminated us early last year when he could have road the hype train
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I agree. Kind of a bummer Self didn’t get to try to sway him this summer.
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@FarmerJayhawk So we’re not a player for Carey?
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We’ll see when he announces his top 5 today. I think the 5th is us or UNC.
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@FarmerJayhawk Nike having KU pushed out before he gets to play for Self on the U18 team makes a lot of sense unfortunately.
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Oh well. We’ll be more than fine with Silvio, JRE, and hopefully Hurt. Not to mention the possibility of Dante.
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Did Carey announce his top 5?
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EJ Montgomery to UK as expected.
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EJ Montgomery to UK means one of their post players is gone imo. It could honestly be any of the posts still on the roster. But 40 minutes to feed 6 mouth doesn’t seem like it is going to work. Honestly, I sort of expect two of them to be gone. None of those guys is going to be ok sitting.
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@Kcmatt7 I mean Tai Wynyard is absolutely gone. Were you thinking another as well?
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@BShark Yea I never much considered him on the roster. After his hole body guard thing, he was never coming back.
I mean, do you see SKJ or Gabriel wanting to come off the bench as Juniors? Or Richards come off the bench as a Sophomore? I don’t think Montgomery committed to UK without the promise of starting. If PJ and Vanderbilt come back, one of them is riding the pine.
We are talking about 4 guys who were 5 star recruits coming off of the bench. I don’t see how everyone stays in that scenario.
Unbelievable that we can’t land bigs when we have guys like Landen and Jamari “in the way” when UK literally has 5 guys with real talent and NBA potential on the roster.
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@Kcmatt7 Yeah you would think these kids want to play. PJ probably stays in the draft, and maybe another defection.
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Illinois got Andres Feliz. Top JUCO PG. Brad has a full platoon coming in.
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@BShark He is a good coach. And I expect him to get Illinois turned around. They just need to let him purge the roster first. It was a shit roster he took over. I would be two year from now, the Illini will be happy with that hire.
Of course he would have to be there two years from now lol.
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I was impressed with Underwood at OSU. Wish he was still in the Big12, but the guy OSU hired seems to have Bill’s blessing (2 gifted w’s imho) and isn’t too shabby so far.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark He is a good coach. And I expect him to get Illinois turned around. They just need to let him purge the roster first. It was a shit roster he took over. I would be two year from now, the Illini will be happy with that hire.
Of course he would have to be there two years from now lol.
Yeah the Illini fanbase is insane.
Frazier and Nichols are solid players coming back. I like a lot of the pieces he has added. Dosunmu we all know as he was in the next recruitment tier for KU this year. Jones is a very athletic wing with enormous potential, he should contribute defensively right away. I like the post player they got from Georgia (THE COUNTRY) but he will need time to season/develop. Feliz is a much needed additional ball handler. Haven’t seen enough of their other two recruits to comment on them.
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Gabriel was coming off the bench for them this year, so I don’t see that being an issue for him next year.
Wynward was suspended last year anyway, and had discussed transferring, so he was on his way out as well. Washington is leaving. That leaves SKJ and Vanderbilt (got hurt, so he’s probably coming back), plus Richards, Gabriel and Montgomery. They also have Jemarl Baker coming in (missed the whole season with injury). He should help with their shooting issues. UK has the advantage that Calipari has shown that even guys coming off the bench can get drafted, so guys aren’t going to be as worried about starting as they would other places.
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dylans said:
I was impressed with Underwood at OSU. Wish he was still in the Big12, but the guy OSU hired seems to have Bill’s blessing (2 gifted w’s imho) and isn’t too shabby so far.
Next year is going to be very rough for both the Okie schools. If Bill loses to OSU next year I’ll be fully convinced LOL.
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@justanotherfan It’s a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy though. If Self had a completely stacked roster like Cal he would have bench players drafted more often too.
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Wynyard was injured (back) and out for the year and got suspended on top of that. Kid seems to be a walking headache and not worth the aggravation.
