Recruiting Thread
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justanotherfan said:
Building out the lineup from there, with Langford, the lineup is probably Dotson, Grimes, Langford, Lawson, Azubuike. Look at that lineup again. That is filthy. And that doesn’t account for Moore, KJ, Mitch, maybe Vick and/or Newman, Cunliffe, McCormack, De Sousa, etc.
As shallow as this team is right now, next season could be equally deep. Even without Langford, we’re still looking at a very deep team with experience, talent, and depth at every position. Azubuike and McCormack at the 5. D. Lawson and Lightfoot at the 4. KJ and Vick at the 3. Malik and Grimes at the 2. Dotson and Moore at the 1. And Sam Cunliffe is on the roster, too. So is Silvio De Sousa. This team is scary deep. Even if Vick, Malik and Azubuike all leave, you still have Dotson, Moore, Grimes, Cunliffe, KJ, Dedric, Mitch, De Sousa, and McCormack (and maybe Langford, too). That’s deeper than this year’s squad, with more talent, too.
It would be the most talent we have had in awhile.
I think Doke is back and KJ is more of a 4 but no matter how you slice it next year’s team should have good depth.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Yeah I think we as fans might have sweated it out more then the staff. The more time that passes makes you think they were just babying the process until these kids wanted to decide on their own. Glad it was early this cycle. Makes recruiting Langford and Ogbaji easier because the staff has a much easier time recruiting a certain position of need or trying to get extra depth
Yeah I think if it was even kind of iffy KU would have kept in much better contact with Ayo and Carey.
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Matt Scott just posted a cryptic thread weeee.
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Oh, it’s Agbaji. He is announcing tomorrow. That escalated QUICKLY.
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@BShark So would that be for us then if he is announcing so quickly?
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@BShark So where do you think he’s going?
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It’s Kansas.
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So which guard(s) is likely to leave early? Cunliffe, Vick, Newman, Moore? (Need another scholly or two if Romeo is interested)
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Methinks Sam and Vick are not long for this roster. @BShark is right, Ogbaji will be a Jayhawk tomorrow.
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@FarmerJayhawk Cunliffe getting the Self axe (I wonder if he sharpened it, it’s been a minute) and Newman staying would be pretty ideal.
Agbaji is putting up good numbers with the caveat that it’s KC area ball. He should win the player of the year award for the metro. I’ll be interested to see where he ends up in the rankings. Not sure how much of it will be actually seeing him play vs his offers exploding and ending up at KU.
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In my haste to put that together, I forgot completely about including Garrett in those lineups. Even if Newman and Vick both leave, this team is in good shape next year regardless of whether Langford signs or not.
Langford just adds to the embarrassment of riches. If he doesn’t come, maybe Agbaji joins up as a four year player. Dotson is here for two years at least. Moore is here for three more. Garrett is here for at least two more unless his shot really progresses. Cunliffe probably stays. I don’t see how Azubuike leaves for the NBA this year. He isn’t ready to play at that level yet on the defensive end, and his offense isn’t far enough along.
KU has a bunch of really good college players that they can group together with potentially two superstar talents (Lawson and Grimes), maybe even three with Langford. Not many teams in the country will be able to match that.
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justanotherfan said:
In my haste to put that together, I forgot completely about including Garrett in those lineups. Even if Newman and Vick both leave, this team is in good shape next year regardless of whether Langford signs or not.
Langford just adds to the embarrassment of riches. If he doesn’t come, maybe Agbaji joins up as a four year player. Dotson is here for two years at least. Moore is here for three more. Garrett is here for at least two more unless his shot really progresses. Cunliffe probably stays. I don’t see how Azubuike leaves for the NBA this year. He isn’t ready to play at that level yet on the defensive end, and his offense isn’t far enough along.
KU has a bunch of really good college players that they can group together with potentially two superstar talents (Lawson and Grimes), maybe even three with Langford. Not many teams in the country will be able to match that.
Well regardless of what Langford does, Agbaji should be announcing for KU tomorrow. Too many reliable people have said this for me to think it could be any other pick.
Langford will continue to be recruited too, tifwiw.
Everyone is talking about Doke like he will be back. He is such a rough fit for the NBA and allegedly still young (this is debatable). I think he stays too.
I think Dedric is easily conference POTY good, maybe some national honors too. If the starting line-up is indeed Dedric and Doke, we are talking about not just playing in the post, but living in the post.
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It will be KU
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We’ve picked up a couple picks for 2019 top 5 guy Matt Hurt. Asked a Duke friend of mine and he told me they’re recruiting like Hurt is leaving the Midwest.
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Can’t imagine Ogbaji is announcing for anyone other then KU
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When is the announcement? (what time?)
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RockkChalkk said:
When is the announcement? (what time?)
2PM Kansas time.
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247 just changed the interest level to favorite for KU. I don’t think I’ve seen them do that and be wrong.
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@BeddieKU23 https://247sports.com/Player/Tevian-Jones-91014
https://twitter.com/ebosshoops/status/961618545980399621
Something is brewing. Getting Agbaji AND going to check this kid out.
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Interesting…
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I try not to jump to conclusions but things don’t look good for Cunliffe. Or landing Romeo for that matter, though this could just be due diligence. Jones would be probably one of the best 2g/wings we could realistically get in on at this point if things don’t work out with Romeo*. It certainly looks like we have two spots available.
*Looks like Simons is flirting with pro options, and I think he is getting paid regardless of where he ends up so I’m glad to see KU isn’t in on him.
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@BShark Wow. So Cunliffe has the writing on the wall. I don’t think signing him impacts Langford still. At least in theory. I mean if Vick and Newman both leave, the path is till paved for him.
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@BShark You’re probably right on Cunliffe. There is a window though, I think. Vick and Newman leave. We don’t get Langford or another ready to play wing. Our starters could be Dotson, Grimes, and Cunliffe. Why Cunliffe over Garrett? Shooting. We go from a shooting based team to team that really can’t shoot. Who can shoot? Sam. The more Garrett makes shots, the more that window closes, of course.
But if Self is constructing a lineup, he’ll be thinking about shooting. Still, I admit the window is small.
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Yeah it doesn’t look good for Sam.
I still don’t believe this has anything to do with Langford. Vick & Newman leave I can imagine he’s still coming here. There’s a starting spot with his name on it. Of course if 1/2 return that window doesn’t look as good for him coming here.
If I’m seeing this correctly Illinois & Zona are on Jones at the moment?
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Wow. So Cunliffe has the writing on the wall. I don’t think signing him impacts Langford still. At least in theory. I mean if Vick and Newman both leave, the path is till paved for him.
I would assume Langford will be recruited until the end, because that is what you do with elite talent you’ve been recruiting unless they are ordered to cut you like a player who shall remain nameless COUGHCOUGHS F$WKT$#WJayson TatumCOUGH COUGH.
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I see Simmons going to the draft, looks like he’s a first rounder.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Yeah it doesn’t look good for Sam.
I still don’t believe this has anything to do with Langford. Vick & Newman leave I can imagine he’s still coming here. There’s a starting spot with his name on it. Of course if 1/2 return that window doesn’t look as good for him coming here.
If I’m seeing this correctly Illinois & Zona are on Jones at the moment?
Zona, Illinois and UCONN have all offered. I think this could just be getting in on a back-up plan that isn’t close to committing in case Romeo doesn’t work out.
@HighEliteMajor I think there is a good chance Self is just done with Sam. Just my speculation but he just never felt like he would be a good fit. Everything I’ve heard about Agbaji indicates he is the opposite of Cunliffe’s I’m filming my practices crap.
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@BeddieKU23 is right. Simons will go if he’s a 1st rounder. The Jones thing is interesting. We haven’t offered yet, so I’d bet we’re just trying to build a relationship just in case Langford doesn’t work out or we have a surprise departure like Sam. I like his game though. Good athlete, can defend multiple spots, and has a rapidly developing skillset on offense.
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I think you nailed it on Jones
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You would think that getting Agbaji would be a very good get and maybe the beginning of the end of the recruitment of Langford. As the expression goes a bird in hand is worth two in the bush.
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Not getting suckered into another ceremony. Grimes & Dotson wasted many many hours of my life I can’t get back.
Will see the good news posted when it goes official
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Self was asked about Cunliffe at his presser today. Between what was said and his expressions, I am not sure Sam ever plays much here.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Not getting suckered into another ceremony. Grimes & Dotson wasted many many hours of my life I can’t get back.
Will see the good news posted when it goes official
I’m sure it will be painful again. I’ll take one for the team even though we already know.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Not getting suckered into another ceremony. Grimes & Dotson wasted many many hours of my life I can’t get back.
Will see the good news posted when it goes official
I’m sure it will be painful again. I’ll take one for the team even though we already know.
Please report the details haha
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@BeddieKU23 Feed has been “live” for a few minutes now. Still no sound and appears to be a splash page. Professional as expected.
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Thanking coaches and such…
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It’s Kansas. His dad was wearing a KU hat THE ENTIRE TIME. Lol.
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Pretty sure on the hat, it was kinda hard to tell with the video quality.
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“That’s always been a dream of mine. It’s a honor that they want me to play for them.”
WHAT AN UPSTANDING YOUNG MAN.
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We’ll see how quickly he zooms into the top 100. Might be lightning speed.
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“I talked with my family after I had been offered and it was just like, ‘What else are we really looking for,’” Agbaji told the Journal-World. “We didn’t have a specific school in mind and we could easily see this being the right fit for me.”
“That’s a strength for me,” Agbaji said of his versatility. “I can post up, I can drive, I can shoot. But something that I really want to work on is handling the ball better. I wouldn’t say I’m bad but to get around elite defenders and stuff like that, I really need to work on that.”
This kind of self-awareness is good and is in line with everything I’ve heard about him being coachable.
“I just feel like I can come in and be tough and be a sit-down defender and just work hard to make the team better,” Agbaji said. “That’s what they’re really looking for and I can shoot the ball, too. Coach Self said when he watched me that my defense was one thing he saw, that I have a good stance, good slide and stuff like that. It’s an honor, honestly, to receive that praise from the best of the best. It’s just exciting.”
Agbaji, whose father is from Nigeria and whose sister, Orie, plays volleyball at Texas, said he made up his mind on Sunday night — just over 24 hours after the offer came from Self and KU assistant Norm Roberts — and spent the next few days both looking forward to his commitment ceremony and preparing for Friday’s rematch with North Kansas City, one of the two teams to beat Oak Park this season.
“That’s the reason why I kind of cut it off short and said KU,” said Agbaji, whose name means “King of Children” in Nigerian. “I just wanted to get all that pressure off and focus on going as far as we can in the postseason.”
Whoever was wondering, his dad is from Africa.
@HighEliteMajor Kind of unreal going from no P5 offers to 7 in about a week.
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Statement from his twitter. He is all over local radio right now. Will be on 1320 AM at 3pm.
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Good nugget on him from Matt Scott
“AAU teams don’t have the opportunity to practice together every day like a high school team can. AAU teams have a little time during the months of March, April, May and July. A lot of players go to various camps in June so there isn’t much time to practice. When teams do get to practice together the practices are usually long, tough and demanding because there aren’t a lot of opportunities to practice. Over the years I’ve seen a lot complaining. A lot of whining and a lot of excuses. I never once saw Ochai complain, whine or have an excuse. All I saw him do was go as hard as he possibly could every single minute he was on the court. Every drill, every play, every minute. He is easily one of the more impressive kids I’ve been around on the AAU circuit.”
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Really been loving our recruiting for 2018. Seems like we are getting guys that want to play for the name on the front of the jersey instead of the back. Big Dave clearly has his head on straight. Dotson and Grimes fell in love with KU. Ochai seems to be level-headed. It’s fantastic.
Add that group plus Jacobs in 2019 and we have been, it seems at least, prioritized high character kids over talent. Of course some of these guys obviously have both. But I’m really liking this wave of future Jayhawks we have coming in.
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Just a rumor, but I hear he has two or three transcript issues; a booster might have helped with some travel money a while back; he drives a late model car given to him by his cousin’s, half-sister’s, domestic partner; his mom may have borrowed some money from a “friend” within the last week; he enjoys shooting at passers-by with his airsoft rifle; and, of course, he partakes in a bong every so often.
Now, of course, I could just be confusing this kid with someone else.
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BShark said:
“I just feel like I can come in and be tough and be a sit-down defender and just work hard to make the team better,” Agbaji said. >
We already have plenty of sit-down defenders, sitting down as the other team drives right past them. I think he meant “shut-down” defender which is hopefully what he will become because this team can badly use it.
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Sounds like he might be a bit like Garrett?
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Agbaji will probably end up reminding a lot of people around here of Travis Releford. He’s a great HS scorer, but that will likely not be his role in college. I think he understands that and will make defense and versatility his calling card. He will be a four year guy that may well end up having a career not that dissimilar from other versatile, somewhat local wing guys like Steve Woodberry and Travis Releford.
