Alexander, Diallo...Preston?
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I don’t buy that it takes 3 days to find out exactly what is happening in this situation.
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@BeddieKU23 I hope and think we find out something today either way.
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Teams need to get ahead of this type of stuff. If a guy is clearly a one and done the coaches should ask for and verify what type of car the player will bring on campus. The coaches know the kids family financial situations and they only manage 12 players.
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Didn’t they say they were preparing without him. Even if its cleared up, the prep for the game has been done without him so he’s essentially out of the game plan anyway.
This is the risk of Preston coming full circle. Thanks Deandre Ayton
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BeddieKU23 said:
Didn’t they say they were preparing without him. Even if its cleared up, the prep for the game has been done without him so he’s essentially out of the game plan anyway.
This is the risk of Preston coming full circle. Thanks Deandre Ayton
I don’t care about how it impacts today’s game tbh, just want to know officially either way.
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@BigBad I think they do. Have to get parking permits, after all. But I think that was why there is a problem–BP didn’t tell them about it, and then, oops! An accident.
We might be really lucky he apparently cannot drive worth crap.
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BigBad said:
Teams need to get ahead of this type of stuff. If a guy is clearly a one and done the coaches should ask for and verify what type of car the player will bring on campus. The coaches know the kids family financial situations and they only manage 12 players.
Pictured below, KU coaches
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I agree, the bigger issue is whether we are preparing for games without him for “X” amount of games or the season. I think that’s where its headed, Compliance has sent this to the NCAA for review
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@BeddieKU23 Even with only X number of games, can he actually get through X without getting into more trouble? So far, unsuccessful (where X=only 1) in that dept.
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I would say my confidence in that would be close to zero. He signed with KU with risks and well here we are. Its becoming a nauseating feeling
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The good news is we can get away with playing Mitch more against a lot of the upcoming teams.
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BShark said:
The good news is we can get away with playing Mitch more against a lot of the upcoming teams.
I would love to say something positive to that fact. Well I’ll just say he can only improve if given more minutes? That’s the best I can find
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He isn’t terrible on defense. So games like this where our guards should run circles around them I feel we can get away with him more!
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Yeah he’s made some defensive contributions but he doesn’t rebound with any aggression which is concerning given the type of player he is that wants to be a high energy type guy. The bar was already low in my opinion from an expectations point but right now he needs to step up and play well. No excuse
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@BeddieKU23 Agree and I do think this is a game where he can shine, especially relative to UK. SDSU can shoot but they can’t defend the ball one bit. They play with a slow pace and still have bad defensive numbers. So Mitch doesn’t have to do anything offensively, not really.
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Yeah tonight could be one of those games for him. Especially at home where its easier for him to find comfort. I hope for a positive contribution from him tonight. The biggest thing he could do is if he’s guarding Daum, to make shots difficult and not foul. That would be a big win for him in my book
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I think we will put Vick and Garrett on Daum, gotta make him work. He isn’t really a post player.
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About half his buckets from 3 so far.
The team has made 55% of their shots from 3 so far. Small sample size but we have to run them off the line
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I would trust Garrett on Daum. His length and smarts would at least make the shots difficult
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Yeah, I’m sure Self has drilled them on guarding the 3 line. Force them to get by you and make athletic plays. They actually have a lot of size but, finesse bigs.
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Yep. It’s a trap game for sure. I think KU wins by about 10-12 but it can definitely be a scary game if things go poorly.
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To be fair the team they beat in their last wouldn’t have beaten our exhibition foe’s. Alabama St wouldn’t score 30 against KU. South Dakota St isn’t an athletic bunch, Daum is a big guy and he’s not going to beat you off the dribble. We have no choice but to play Doke on someone and if its not Daum then I don’t know who because their only other big guy only plays 15 minutes a game. But Doke can’t sit in the lane like he did against Kentucky and that’s going to be a problem. They will run screen actions to get him open outside. So I’m really interested in how Self scouted for this game without Preston who would be on paper the best option to cover him. Either you stick with Doke and let Daum get his and focus the rest on limiting Jenkins or you put someone quicker and smaller on him and Doke is forced to cover somebody else.
This matchup for South Dakota St only works if they make everything from 3 and KU misses shots like they did Tuesday.
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@BeddieKU23 Agree with a lot of this. Aaaand I don’t think KU misses nearly as many shots. A lot of that was because they weren’t super great looks against UK because UK is long and athletic.
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I hope we feed Doke a ton inside. He has a huge advantage in this game if he stays out of foul trouble. This should also be a game that Vick is the leading scorer.
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BeddieKU23 said:
I hope we feed Doke a ton inside. He has a huge advantage in this game if he stays out of foul trouble. This should also be a game that Vick is the leading scorer.
Doke gonna eat on O for sure. I think both teams are gonna score a lot.
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I think the biggest risk is our guys fouling while guarding the 3 ptr, or fouling on pick and rolls when the 3 is being guarded adequately. Particularly for Svi.
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@BeddieKU23 The best part of Garrett’s defensive game is that he makes it hard for the other team to get the ball to his man in the first place. On him like glue the entire time, head swiveling around tracking the ball to stay in position.
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@DanR Yeppp
Just about this entire forum and the coaching staff loves Garrett. Kid just has IT.
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@BShark so what is the problem then? He owns it and it’s registered.
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@HawkChamp I think the question is who paid for it. The more I find out though, the more I think being done for the year might not happen. If it’s improper benefits or w/e it could just be like a 9 game suspension or so. I hope we find out officially soon.
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So, after the recruiting wait was over, now we go through a waiting period of anxiety over someone we previously waited for to become a Jayhawk. Seems like we are never settled!
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mayjay said:
So, after the recruiting wait was over, now we go through a waiting period of anxiety over someone we previously waited for to become a Jayhawk. Seems like we are never settled!
That about sums it up.
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DanR said:
you can lease a brand new charger for $300/month, so maybe Billy just isn’t spending his money on tattoos
PHOF
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If the car is a lease it is technically owned by the leasing company and rented to the user. If the leasing company is in Florida it is conceivable that the car was licensed and tagged there.
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It’s been a shell game the entire time. It’s not about the car…but what’s inside the car!!!
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@JayHawkFanToo In my experience, leased cars are registered and tagged in the state of the lessee (renter), not the lessor (owner).
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Billy has lived in California, Texas and Virginia while attending assorted prep schools; I don’t believe he qualifies as a Kansas resident. I seem to remember but I am not sure his mom lives in Texas but it is possible she is now in Florida. If a car was leased, it would have been done by his mom since Billy most certainly would not qualify.
At one time I looked at car leases in Florida for my dad and remember looking at some really great deal that I could not dream in Kansas; Florida has much lower taxes than most states; in fact, Florida has no state income tax and this is why many high earning athletes reside there since they can save literally millions…but then Texas does not have income tax either while Kansas just raised the state income tax…retroactively…I bet the explanation will be a doozie.
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DanR said:
@BeddieKU23 The best part of Garrett’s defensive game is that he makes it hard for the other team to get the ball to his man in the first place. On him like glue the entire time, head swiveling around tracking the ball to stay in position.
Which is why I think Marcus would be a good option guarding him on the perimeter. We have no idea how good he’d do in the post area but in HS he said he guarded Centers. Daum does have post moves and at 250 pounds any guard no matter how good defensively is going to struggle trying to stop a guy from putting his big body on you. We’ll see what happens. I know Doke is going to struggle trying to guard him outside
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@JayHawkFanToo I only leased one car. I lived in Virginia. It was owned by World Omni of Florida. Tags and registration, and insurance, were all my responsibility. They keep the title, but no liability (unlike a landlord it seems).
Billy might have been given the car by his Mom. He can register it where he lives (KS) or back home, I believe. I always left my car registrations back in KS when I was a student in Michigan and in the Army in Virginia because KS prop tax was lower.
We looked at houses in FL this past weekend and will probably move there when wifey retires–16 and 1/2 months and counting down. Lack of income tax is a big factor, and will get bigger if the tax bills get passed eliminating deducting S/L (&Prop) taxes. SC rate on everything above about $1600 is 7%. Exemption for $3000 of retirement, big whoop.
Anyway, as I said before, it is probably not signif that the tags were from FL if they were temporary. Just reflects the locale where the sale took place or origin of the car. My brother bought my car and I let him keep the tags to drive home to Illinois, but usually the seller keeps the old tags to avoid liability until the buyer gets titled in their own state. SC would have given us temp tags, but it was a weekend. I think many states now let people get a temp license on the internet that you can show if stopped, but people say driving without tags can be a pain b/c cops look for that first.
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Billy’s mom was pretty annoyed on twitter. She seems sure that the car is used and completely legal. Also that Billy has a proper license. Mentioned that she didn’t realize she had to register the car with the school.
If all this is the case I’m not sure how this has not been cleared up.
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She also mentioned the car is a pretty old model. Maybe a hurricane damaged car bought on the cheapy cheap?
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His drivers license is valid! I didn’t register his older model USED, LEGAL car with the school…didn’t know I had to.
From Billy’s mom. I believe her
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Something smells fishy about this ordeal. Otherwise, the coaching staff, which seems obviously highly concerned about the situation with our Bigs, would have pushed Compliance to get this cleared up pronto. Bill Self looks to be wary about the situation; would rather hold Billy out and move slowly than find the program’s reputation and wins in jeopardy after having played the kid. Gotta be more to it than a simple matter of registration and clearance, car and family. For instance, how did the car get to Lawrence from Florida? Did BIlly’s missing curfew have something to do with this vehicle? If all is as simple as twitter posting would appear to indicate, then we will see this recruit in action tonight. Me, I am growing weary of fishy or obfuscating social media postings.
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On the other hand if I was a talented freshman player who was offered a free education, room and board, I’d probably leap at the first opportunity to apply my monthly athletes’ stipend to the maintenance and fuel tank of a set of wheels. This current investigation must be highly frustrating for all concerned…
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@REHawk Yeah I just felt it was worth posting another side of the situation. I hope she is right, but obviously it’s not cut and dry, or KU is just being super cautious. It is frustrating for sure.
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@BShark Good to read another side of the situation. The “program” is certainly treading very carefully and fairly silently.
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He has to register/get a parking permit and get a sticker so he wants to park on campus on school parking lots.
The reason he missed a class is because when missed curfew he had to park his car illegally and had to go move it the next morning. Related?
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@JayHawkFanToo I thought he missed curfew cause he had to move his car. Not sure why that matters.
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What would fall be without some drama regarding one of our players? Anyone wonder if Self is slipping in his recruitment of players? I know we have a stellar class coming but this is an ongoing problem here, now. Too many bad headlines. Year after year. Character matters and I’m wondering if it doesn’t matter as much for Bill Self? I’ve always thought it mattered a lot. I’ve always thought we run a pretty tight ship here and we’re not like those other teams. I sure don’t want others to start thinking of KU as a school with a shady rep. Because if we become that, my own fandom takes a hit. I believe strongly in right and wrong. I take pride in cheering for good guys who don’t finish last. Don’t wreck it for us Coach!
