Langford
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@FarmerJayhawk so from you are hearing the decision was made yesterday for IU? Done deal?
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I heard it was between KU and IU a week or so ago but nobody is saying KU now. The coaches haven’t been informed yet as far as I know, but I’m 99% sure it’s IU.
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Oh, I think he’s going to KU. A guy told me.
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Oh, I think he’s going to Vandy. A guy told me.
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Oh, I think he’s going to IU. A guy told me.
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Ok
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Of course but the decision hasn’t really felt in ku’ s favor for a while so that was the real point of my post.
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Thanks for keeping us informed along the way.
Crazy how much pressure Indiana fans put on him to play for a 500 team
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@BeddieKU23 no problem. This late it’s always fun to post everything I hear just because it’s so chaotic. I so want to see the meltdown if somehow Romeo picks us.
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I watch trends. I talk to recruits. I talk to players. I talk to active members on the team. All indications are KU. He knows he gets to step in and start for the preseason no1 team in the country. No competing for starts and he knows Coach Self has been successful with similar guards.
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Grimes and Langford have long been viewed as a package deal. With KU’s entire backcourt departing it makes it an easy transition for Langford to step into. His family have said it was a business decision all along. When you are making a business decision you go where you will get the best training. Out of the 3 schools KU is the best decision. Langford has always wanted to play with the best. Go look about how he was trying to pair up with other top guys clear back in October 2017. He and Grimes have taken pics together recently. He is not just stirring the pot by tweeting about playing with Grimes. He really wants 2. There will be some upset IU fans tomorrow.
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@Statmachine hope you’re right man. I don’t think anyone knows 100% right now. We’ll all find out tomorrow evening.
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I have been reluctant to actually say anything unless I was really sure. You can go back to Diallo’s recruitment and see that I scooped him better than the media. I said moments b4 he announced that he was active on his fb and it will happen any second. I called Wiggins too. I am not tooting my own horn as much as I am just telling yall that I am confident its KU.
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I believe it is safe to say that all of us here hope you are right this time. I would be very happy if he commits to KU but only slightly disappointed if he does not; fortunately this is one time when KU will be fine regardless.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
@BeddieKU23 no problem. This late it’s always fun to post everything I hear just because it’s so chaotic. I so want to see the meltdown if somehow Romeo picks us.
Oh that would top any previous one for sure.
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Well it’s like I said a few days back after reading the latest out of the Indy Star. I then said at the time before I read that I was 100% totally finally convinced that is was a wrapped and sealed deal just waiting to be delivered to Indiana. Then AFTER I read the article I said I still believed he was going to Indiana but I had wavered on my confidence about that and I was like at 85% - -to 15 % KU.
Now after reading this morning’s article - - - I know , I know , I could and probably am just trying to read to much between the lines I understand why you might think that BUT: - - -I guess I can do that so here is the thing guys - - Like a poster off the Phog said after people read the article that wavered me said then - - -Doesn’t the statements made by Romeo and his family then almost sound like they were trying to brace the Indiana fans for a let down with the statements made?
Well this morning’s statements made by Tim Langford just almost reinforces that yet AGAIN. I mean if you really look at what he is saying here , could very easily I think be bracing them for what’s to come
Tim Langford said the plan was for them to sit down and discuss about his thought sand the 3 schools , but that they really hadn’t had much time to do that. - -He said he actually thought that Romeo had made his decision some time last week.
The thing is with what Tim Langford says here , It just makes me stop and think hmmmmmmmmmmm ? what is up? something sounds ummm different. - -Tim stated: He said he HOPED that everyone in the New Albany High Gym would be pulling for Romeo above all else. - - OK thing is if Romeo is 100 % sure he is committing to Indiana why would his Dad even bother to make that kind of statement? - - Sure in the hell won’t be finding to many KU fans in the New Albany Gym tonight for the announcement. - So of course the Indiana fans would be pulling for Romeo , he going to Indiana there isn’t even any need to make that statement…
Then Tim Langford says My thing is , IF it’s not IU (which ) I don’t know for sure if it’s them or not, IF they’re truly Romeo fans , there’s a difference between the Schools fans and my son’s fans – - he said and when it’s all said and done. -Who’s really a fan for my son? - - Who’s really a fan of him? - - My take from that statement? - -Sure sounds like again he is bracing the IU fans possibly and saying a - -HEY if your a true fan of Romeo then your going to pull for him no matter where he goes.
You put that together with the statement they made previously about just because it was at the New Albany Gym was more about showing their appreciation of the fan support for the past 4 years - -NOT about where he decides to go - -It’s a courtesy to the fans. - -I just don’t know for sure right now. - I wouldn’t want to have to lay money either way - -KU - -or IU? - - I won’t be shocked either way at this point. - I’d say I think he still lands at IU BUT my confidence is melting and - QUICK I’d probably say now 60% Indiana - - 40 % for the good guys - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Lol. It’s Indiana and I’ll be interested to see who KU goes after once it’s official.
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@BShark yup just saw that - Thanks Debbie Downer lmao - I got it off the phog - typical Monday Morning – well goodie another grad transfer lol
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jayballer73 said:
@BShark yup just saw that - Thanks Debbie Downer lmao - I got it off the phog - typical Monday Morning – well goodie another grad transfer lol
Have we had a grad transfer besides Tarik Black? Worked out okay.
Cremo is as good as you can ask for. 45% trey gun last year (42% for career) when KU needs shooting next season plus he will be 22 before he would play a game for KU. I hope we can land him over Nova!
Also has the added benefit of the scholarship situation working the same way as adding Romeo would have (just one year).
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@BShark Just the ‘stache as far as I can recall.
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Matt Scott just changed his CB to Indiana. IT’S DONE FOLKS.
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Cremo is a good player. He doesn’t move the needle for this team if he signed with KU however he would have a specific role that can be useful.
I cannot stress enough the difference between landing a Top 5 talent such as Romeo to a grad transfer from the American East conference.
If Cremo is the best option for a year, that’s fine. We have a need for a shooter.
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It ain’t over until it’s over.
Remember DeAndre Ayton was just about 100% KU (with one vote to UK by a UK writer) and yet he ended up at Arizona…although money might have played a part on that.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
It ain’t over until it’s over.
Remember DeAndre Ayton was just about 100% KU (with one vote to UK by a UK writer) and yet he ended up at Arizona…although money might have played a part on that.
Cremo visit info doesn’t get out if Langford is coming to KU, imo. Coaching staffs were informed over the weekend so the timeline makes sense here.
Matt Scott has KU colored glasses so whenever he finally changes his pick OFF of KU, I’m listening.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Cremo is a good player. He doesn’t move the needle for this team if he signed with KU however he would have a specific role that can be useful.
I cannot stress enough the difference between landing a Top 5 talent such as Romeo to a grad transfer from the American East conference.
If Cremo is the best option for a year, that’s fine. We have a need for a shooter.
Yeah, perfect as a one year addition after already getting PT at a smaller school. Not a guy you want to have to break in and develop yourself. The whole grad transfer thing is kinda sleazy, but KU might as well use it.
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@BShark ya for one we had mustache boy that was a waste of our time ran like a stripped ass ape when found out things wasn’t going his way, - -Pretty funny though - -Grad transfer from Albany -Romeo - New Albany High School love the connection - and yes I know they are not the same - juast saying
I’m still on board with there is nothing wrong with holding on the scholarship other then passing it out to a average Grad player for one year. - -Ya Romeo is a one and done - but not even close to the same - giving that out to an Elite OAD or if you miss handing it out to a good or slightly above average Grad Transfer. - Like so many of others have said it is NOTA a must that we use the scholarship - were going be fine without feeling we need to use it - I’ll go to my grave feeling if it isn’t that perfect fit then don’t use it - some people here act like were desperate to fill that 13th spot that’s crazy
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I actually think IU has the worst chance of the three. Romeo has shown he wants to play with a good PG, which is smart since he wants to be able to showcase his skills as a 2 guard. Indiana has the worst PG situation among the three finalists.
Garland and Dotson are both better than what Indiana has. Langford played with a very good HS backcourt mate (another D1 recruit, although to a midmajor). Once you have played with a talented PG as a wing guy, you don’t want to give that up. The quality of shots he will get at KU or Vandy will be better because of Garland or Dotson than what he will get at Indiana. That’s a huge factor from a “business decision” standpoint.
He can take Malik Newman’s situation as an example. Newman went to Mississippi State with a poor PG situation. He shot poor percentages and was too often asked to shoulder a lot of the burden both from a scoring and from a playmaking standpoint. Newman comes to KU, and once he figures out he doesn’t have to make every play on the offensive end, explodes and turns right back into the player he was coming out of HS.
Langford is faced with a similar situation (albeit, Indiana is in slightly better shape than MSU was). Still, he doesn’t have the PG help at IU that he would have at either KU or Vandy. I think that swings the decision, but whether that means KU or Vandy is beyond me.
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He’s from my neck of the woods so I feel confident in my evaluation of him. Seen him play a ton over the past 3 years. He never went through the recruiting process so this is all new for him and from everything I’ve read locally he’s got a ton of support wherever he goes.
Can really shoot the basketball, at times lights out. That’s a trait lacking on this upcoming team.
Will be interesting to see how he views his role. If he’s looking for 30 minutes a night its not happening. He would have a distinct role though and could absolutely help us win some games
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@justanotherfan I like your reasoning, but I’m afraid emotions will play a bigger factor. I want him at KU and can put him there with my brain, but I don’t know what he wants in his heart.
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Certainly could. It’s a personal decision for him, so all sorts of factors (ones we can see and ones we can’t) could be in play.
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BeddieKU23 said:
He’s from my neck of the woods so I feel confident in my evaluation of him. Seen him play a ton over the past 3 years. He never went through the recruiting process so this is all new for him and from everything I’ve read locally he’s got a ton of support wherever he goes.
Can really shoot the basketball, at times lights out. That’s a trait lacking on this upcoming team.
Will be interesting to see how he views his role. If he’s looking for 30 minutes a night its not happening. He would have a distinct role though and could absolutely help us win some games
I’d trust your overall eval on it, I haven’t watched a single game of his.
You know my thoughts on Moore already. I’d think Cremo would instantly slot in ahead of Moore.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
He’s from my neck of the woods so I feel confident in my evaluation of him. Seen him play a ton over the past 3 years. He never went through the recruiting process so this is all new for him and from everything I’ve read locally he’s got a ton of support wherever he goes.
Can really shoot the basketball, at times lights out. That’s a trait lacking on this upcoming team.
Will be interesting to see how he views his role. If he’s looking for 30 minutes a night its not happening. He would have a distinct role though and could absolutely help us win some games
I’d trust your overall eval on it, I haven’t watched a single game of his.
You know my thoughts on Moore already. I’d think Cremo would instantly slot in ahead of Moore.
I would agree with that. I see Cremo (if he comes here) as someone who instantly joins the rotation. Duke even kicked the tires on him so you know that even the elite schools see his value.
Moore will be interesting. Hope he surprises me
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Romeo to Joliet (JC) …probably a doomed union.
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BShark said:
Matt Scott just changed his CB to Indiana. IT’S DONE FOLKS.
Matt Scott doesn’t know. I doubt that Langford called up Scott to tell him to change his prediction. None of these guys have any real info, only hearsay.
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Langford and those close to him have done a really good job of keeping things under wraps. This decision will be a surprise to everyone.
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This decision is not going to be a surprise to everyone.
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Statmachine said:
BShark said:
Matt Scott just changed his CB to Indiana. IT’S DONE FOLKS.
Matt Scott doesn’t know. I doubt that Langford called up Scott to tell him to change his prediction. None of these guys have any real info, only hearsay.
Want to bet?
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@BShark so did you see the sighting of coach Self, at the Kc airport, on the phog? Was it a joke? I know there was a flight on sw to Indianapolis about that time.
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I believe Coach Self uses the KU plane which is based in Lawrence for all recruiting. This is the quiet period and cannot meet with the family. Also, if he was going to see Langford he would most likely fly to Louisville which is 15 minutes away and not to Indianapolis which is 2 hours away.
Now, if he is going on a personal trip then he would fly commercial.
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@JayHawkFanToo The quiet period isn’t 100% hands off. The calendar is weird with scattered dates with recruiting possible. The day that Self was supposedly there was the last day to make legal face to face contct off campus (for awhile).
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He can meet in the gym. Just what I read.
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@JayHawkFanToo You think Self ever flies commercial?! Come on now. He has multiple jets at his disposal. In his contract he gets up to so many hours for personal use a year.
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Incognito?
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@Crimsonorblue22 - someone dressed as Bill Self to hide his true travel plans?
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark so did you see the sighting of coach Self, at the Kc airport, on the phog? Was it a joke? I know there was a flight on sw to Indianapolis about that time.
No idea.
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@Gorilla72 rumors!
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@BShark Unless you were on a 3 way call with Scott and Langford then you don’t know either.
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@Statmachine I know Langford is going to Indiana. That’s about it.
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Then why are you on this thread waiting to see where he goes?